R/T premium on values?

[marangen]

an earlier thread describes a very nice, solid and complete green 68 that owner is looking to let go for 10,500 USD was it? What would be the fair value IF it had been an original R/T - i.e. what is the premium for R/T vs not-R/T. Premium on matching number engine R/T as well as non matching number R/Ts would be interesting as well.

Martin

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

The R/T moniker ups the price/desireability about 5-10k.  Numbers matching does the same as well as a 4 speed

[MoparYoungGun]

If that car were an R/T it would go for at least $22-23k. Most likely a little more if it has the #'s matching stuff. Prices for 2nd gens are out of control, great for owners, bad for people wanting to own.

[triple_green]

The old car price guide says it is a $1500 premium over an non-R/T big block. Real-life tells me something different. I'd say at least $3K.

Lot's of other factors come into play though. Like people said. Other "big ticket: items are matching motor, 4-speed and desirable colors.

I'm still happy to have my 383 HP 68.

3x

[69pistolgripRT]

Personally, I would pay 5-10K more for a comparable XS over an XP. Add a four speed and my wallet opened up wider.

My Dad taught me a long time ago to purchase the most rare, most desireable, most powerful first.
It takes the same money to restore a /6 as it does a RT four speed with console. 

[Brock Samson]

aint it like this?...
(For '69-'70)


/6 3 on the tree
/6 automatic
318 (all autos? as i've never seen a 4-sp. 318)
383 2 bl. auto. (")
383 4 bl. auto.
383 4 bl. 4-sp.
440 R/T Auto
440 R/T 4-sp.
440 Six pack auto
440 Six-Pack 4 sp.
426 HEMI. Auto.
426 HEMI 4-sp.
500 440-auto.
500 440-4-speed
500 hemi-auto
500 HEMI- 4-sp.
Daytona 440 -auto.
DAYTONA 440 4-speed
DAYTONA 426 AUTO
DAYTONA 426 4-speed.

with extra point being given for good options like:
Special Edition luxury decor.
Air Conditioning.
Disc Brakes.
Power Windows.
Sunroof. (very rare)
hood blackout.
rear window defroster.
(other?)


anyone   knows any better?..

[Chad L. Magee]

aint it like this?...
(For '69-'70)


/6 3 on the tree
/6 automatic
318 (all autos? as i've never seen a 4-sp. 318)
383 2 bl. auto. (")
383 4 bl. auto.
383 4 bl. 4-sp.
440 R/T Auto
440 R/T 4-sp.
440 Six pack auto
440 Six-Pack 4 sp.
426 HEMI. Auto.
426 HEMI 4-sp.
500 440-auto.
500 440-4-speed
500 hemi-auto
500 HEMI- 4-sp.
Daytona 440 -auto.
DAYTONA 440 4-speed
DAYTONA 426 AUTO
DAYTONA 426 4-speed.

with extra point being given for good options like:
Special Edition luxury decor.
Air Conditioning.
Disc Brakes.
Power Windows.
Sunroof. (very rare)
hood blackout.
rear window defroster.
(other?)


anyone   knows any better?..

Maybe pricewise, but the /6s are harder to find than the 318s.  If you want a complete set, the /6 is worth more than the 318s due to the fact that you will be spending more time tracking them down.  Compare for 1970: /6: one of 4 known vs 318 probably a few (up to ten) thousand left. As for the 500 models on your list, you are speaking of the 1969 models and not the 70s (with the exception of the 70 500 Hemi 1 of 1).......

[Troy]

I think he meant according to value. Even if I found a mint 70 /6 car it wouldn't be worth a lot to me stock. I have a nice 68 318 car which is worth a whole lot more with a transplanted engine. I don't think I've ever been hot on the trail of a /6 Charger and I don't think it's likely that I ever will be. Perhaps some others value them?

Troy

[Chad L. Magee]

I think he meant according to value. Even if I found a mint 70 /6 car it wouldn't be worth a lot to me stock. I have a nice 68 318 car which is worth a whole lot more with a transplanted engine. I don't think I've ever been hot on the trail of a /6 Charger and I don't think it's likely that I ever will be. Perhaps some others value them?

Troy

I do, but that's because I am an oddball collector.  If eveyone collected the same exact thing, it would get boring at car shows much faster than if every car was different by some reason.  I like to play games with people's minds, tease them with something to think about.  Which will get more attention at a car show, side by side: a big block Charger or a factory Charger that you did not know existed (or had never seen before)?  I know the answer to that question thanks to a show I attended earlier this year......

As for value, maybe you are right, but to get a complete set of all types of Chargers (something I am doing), you still have to get the /6s.  This leads to a supply vs. demand issue:  I have been contacted by a guy who wanted to buy my 70 /6 Charger because he had one (yellow/black) and crushed it back in the 80s (thinking it will never be worth anything).  He is outa luck because I won't sell and I don't see any of the other three owners (of known ones) wanting to sell any time soon.......

[Brock Samson]

 You have a point as to /6 rarity Chad, no doubt,..
   but I'm wonderin if a '69 R/T Hemi is worth more, or less then a '69 500 440?..
   and in addition if the former has a auto and the latter a 4-sp?..   
  

[Chad L. Magee]

Well, with the way hemi prices have gone, I would say the hemi RT is probably worth more at an auction than the 500.  I may be wrong, but that is my viewpoint.  This is because people now associate hemi car with $$$ (thanks to the hemi cuda convertible values going sky high) and that has brought them up higher than the same models with different engines.  I would perfer the 500 because it is a special car (and more reliable at high speed), but to some people they only see the $$$ and that clouds their decision towards the hemi.

[Dodge Don]

Not 68's but the 70 Charger Registry has been tracking 70 Charger sale prices and the average sale prices are:

70 Charger = $6,548
70 Charger 500 = $8,189
70 Charger R/T 440 = $17,592
70 Charger R/T 440 Six Pack = $31,207
70 Charger R/T HEMI = $168,525

* average of all sales....parts cars, project cars, drivers, restored, show cars (naturally the HEMI cars are typically restored or show cars so the average is skewed higher)

[Troy]

Yeah, but I can't afford a collection so I get what I can... Usually that means the rarest/best that I can afford.

Troy