red paint of face of drums for road wheel cars?????

[resq302]

Ok, I know that the road wheels (Magnum 500's) had the faces of the drums painted like a brick red color.  Was this also the case for the rear drums with cars equipped with the optional disc front brakes?  I would like to get it correct so I don't need to pull my rear wheels yet another time to make my car correct.

Thanks ,

Brian

[tan top]

pretty sure it is red

[John_Kunkel]

This shows the front drums but the rears were done the same.

[resq302]

John,

Thanks a million for that pic.  Now I even have something to show the AACA judges when they ask why my drums are painted red and not cast iron color.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Well Brian, If the "judges" really want to get picky you would be SOL....

Look closely on the bulliten.   Notes 6 & 7 were added on 8/15/1969.....approximately 3 months after your build date of 5/9/1969

PS----I used Krylon Ferd red engine paint on mine (was told by a reliable source that this was a close match to the orig red color)......didnt do the dripping brush stroke thing...just a painting of the face of the drum making sure to get no paint on the drum/wheel contact surface

[Chris G.]

I would like to get it correct so I don't need to pull my rear wheels yet another time to make my car correct.

Now I even have something to show the AACA judges when they ask why my drums are painted red and not cast iron color.

Thanks ,

Brian

Brian, you know I dig you and love the ride, but that AACA thing is completely nuts if you ask me. I mean who makes the rules? They care about Rad #'s and literature that proves your car came with whatever, yet they turn a cheek when it comes to the most important stuff like original paint color and striping? I went to that one AACA show, and it was my last. What a complete bunch of wacko's going by that made up rule book they follow. That club is borderline ridiculous. It's amazing it is as big as it is.

[resq302]

Chris G,

AACA rules say that as long as it was a factory optional color for that year, it is ok.  So if I painted my car EV2 or plum crazy purple, they would take points off of it.  But since R4 was a factory optional color in 69, I am ok.  As for my stripe, they will probably take off points for that since it could not have come as an option on the standard chargers.  Also, lets face it..... If you have been to the local NJ chapter AACA meeting, the average age is like 80.  

As for the radiator, they might not have picked up on it as it is a Chrysler radiator with the numbers and stampings like the original one but I know it is not correct and it bugged me.  I know, I know.... call me anal retentive but it is my car.  The tail stripe stays no matter what cause that is what I like and I think it makes the car.

Oh well, such is life.  Do you know if the Mopar Atlantic Nats in the stock class takes off for a color change even if it is a stock optional color?

[Chris G.]

Do you know if the Mopar Atlantic Nats in the stock class takes off for a color change even if it is a stock optional color?

No they don't, and it's been obvious for the past how many years now? Wrong if you ask me, but a good point that should be addressed.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Do you know if the Mopar Atlantic Nats in the stock class takes off for a color change even if it is a stock optional color?

No they don't, and it's been obvious for the past how many years now? Wrong if you ask me, but a good point that should be addressed.

I believe they do because in the light modified class a color change is one of the light modifications.  Thats one of the reasons I really never went into the stock class there.......maybe I should have this year

You cant use E-town as a good example of a "judged" show though.  Go to the SME judging at Carlisle and really have your head spun around.

PS---Brian, V2 was an optional color for 69

[resq302]

All of the paperwork that I have from the 1969 Dodge Dealers manual that has the optional colors and paint chip sheets dont show it.  Unless it was one of those special 69 1/2 year colors that they used on the daytonas.

[69CoronetRT]

All of the paperwork that I have from the 1969 Dodge Dealers manual that has the optional colors and paint chip sheets dont show it.  Unless it was one of those special 69 1/2 year colors that they used on the daytonas.

Brian, V2 was released later in the year on other cars besides the Daytonas and A12 Bees but it's not common. The color WAS available for a car with an SPD of 5/9

[resq302]

Interesting about the V2 orange paint.   

Oh well, glad to see that the date of the painted drums were added August of 1969.  I would have rather had my drums painted the cast iron color as it would have looked weird to have my rear drums painted red while the fronts were cast iron color on the edge of the rotors and the calipers were cast iron gray.

[69CoronetRT]

Interesting about the V2 orange paint.   

Let's think this through...it's called "E" V2 for the 1970 cars because it was first used in the 1969, series E, model year. If it wasn't available until 1970, wouldn't the color be called "F" V2?

[resq302]

I knew the 69's were the E series but never thought that the E part of the EV2 would have stood for anything other than the paint color.

[69CoronetRT]

I knew the 69's were the E series but never thought that the E part of the EV2 would have stood for anything other than the paint color.

Starting in 1970, the first letter of the paint code indicates the first model year for that particular color. In 69, the color was just V2. So in 1970 the color code becomes E(first series year of release=1969)V2.

FC7 indicates that the F series, 1970, was the first year of release.
TX9 indicates that the "T" series, 1963 in the old lettering system, was the first year for that particular shade of black.

This helps distinguish different colors such as EB5, first used in 1969 and GB5, first used in 1971. Both are a medium blue for their respective year but they are two different shades of blue.

Hope this helps

[resq302]

Learn something new everyday.

[gtx6970]

Use 1968 340 engine red

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Oh well, glad to see that the date of the painted drums were added August of 1969. I would have rather had my drums painted the cast iron color as it would have looked weird to have my rear drums painted red while the fronts were cast iron color on the edge of the rotors and the calipers were cast iron gray.

I dont think it looks weird

[CornDogsCharger]

I just bought a 1968 Charger RT roject car that came with disc on the front and the rear drums are red.  I just though it might have been something that someone did... I didn't know.

Justin
"CornDog"

[hemigeno]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I figured it would be important to note that there is an Engineering Illustration for the 1969 model year which shows the red paint on brake drums for cars with the Chrome (Road) Wheels.  The first date on that drawing is 2/19/68, and it is specified as being applicable for E-series (1969) cars.

Chris & Brian, your cars were supposed to get the red painted drums so don't sweat it... 

[471_Magnum]

Interestingly enough, Chrysler still uses "X9" as their designation for black, although in the last couple of years they have come up with a new shade (and code) for the black used on many models.

[resq302]

Geno,

Not sweating it at all about that.  Really sweating the fact that I might have to part with my toy because we are looking into buying a house.  Really tough decission for me and I know that I will be down and out if I do, but I have to take care of my family. 

[hemihead]

Interestingly enough, Chrysler still uses "X9" as their designation for black, although in the last couple of years they have come up with a new shade (and code) for the black used on many models.

Think about it , how do you get a different shade of Black ? Other than metallics and such . Isn't Black , Black ?

[471_Magnum]

Think about it , how do you get a different shade of Black ? Other than metallics and such . Isn't Black , Black ?

You would be surprised. Pretty much every car company has their own version of basic black... and yes, I can tell the difference.

[Ghoste]

Agreed.  It wouldn't surprise me if there is some kind of internationally agreed upon scientific standard for a pure black and pure white but working in a mfg facility, I'm here to tell you there are an absolutely astonishing numbert of black and white paints available.  Magnum is also correct that you can see the difference in them.  Maybe or maybe not looking at them individually but line a few up beside one another and you would be shocked.