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Third gen door and window seals for a 72 SE

Started by Doright, March 03, 2007, 02:45:31 PM

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Doright

Whats the deal with window and door seals for the 3rd gen 1972 SE every one Say's EXCEPT SE


Any body know whats up with this?
Why do they have reg charger but not the SE model whats diffrent about the seals
Doright
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Charger1973

They have different rooflines as shown

Doright

I am talking about 72 they all claim reg charger is available but not the SE
Doright
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I play with cars because Jets are way too serious to be fun any more
I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more

Charger1973

I think its the same type of thing with 72s as well, but someone else would have to say for sure. 

Nacho-RT74

I think window fuzzies are different because the different shape of quarter window againts regular 71/72 opening without the SE plug. I have known ppl searching for those without luck. Maybe is posible modify regular ones to make them fit... Anyway door fuzzies itself are the same.

Doors weatherstrips are the same.

Roofrail weatherstrip could it be perfectly the same, just would need to cut them shorter and fit on roofrail molding. Is like doors ones. All 71/74 weatherstripes sold like the "same"ones. BUT since 71/72 doors are higher on rear, then to fit the same WS set on all 71/74 models they sell the longer ones and just need to cut at the right door height to 73/74s.
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Doright

OK so we all know 73 AND 74 are way Different........... any one else have some input on 71 72 SE PLEASE!!!!!!!!????????????????
Doright
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I play with cars because Jets are way too serious to be fun any more
I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more

Doright

Again I have contacted Legendary about the window felts and the window door seals they are not available from them for the 72 SE and they do not suggest using plain 72 or 71 parts to try and make work!!!

Any one have the info on this subject or contacts please pot it up
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I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more

NHCharger

 My 71 SE has the exact same windows as both my regular 72's.
Looking at the 72 SE's they have the opera window like Nacho said, which is a different shape than the regular quarter glass window.
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Nacho-RT74

Quote from: NHCharger on March 06, 2007, 09:00:43 PM
My 71 SE has the exact same windows as both my regular 72's.
Looking at the 72 SE's they have the opera window like Nacho said, which is a different shape than the regular quarter glass window.

eeehm, 72 SE is not opera window, is just a body plug filler to make smaller and more "square" the quarter glass, however rest is the same and in fact glass itself is the same as far I know.

I would give a chance to the regulars 71/72, and if doesn't works, just will need to make a custom job on quarter felts( inner and outer ), but sure the rest is the same.

There is more than a certain chance that try to fit a regular set on the outer quarter felt woin't be hard... they are flexible ( repros, not originals ) and shape will be easy to be taken... dunno if brackets match, but not imposible.

inner felt attached to interior panel... damd is just cut at the right size and attach

inner felt attached on sail panel I don't think will be hard either, since they started from a straight piece and just made cuts on metalic reinforcement to make teh curve. If you need to make more curve, just ad some extra cuts
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

hemihead

The 72 SE is not the same as the 71 SE nor does it have any ' filler plug' .The B pillar on the 71 SE angles back like all 71's and 72's but the B pillar on the 72 SE is more of a verticle.
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Doright

I have went a we bit farther trying to get an answer and new window seals after contacting every one else I contacted Steele Rubber products and had a long talk with the pepole there again they say plain 72 wont work and 71 is a no no too but If I remove mine and send them in so they can look and see we they are diffrent they will see about going into production with them as long as I'm not in a real big hurry 6-8 months!

They also had me contact PUI about the window sweep kits and again as long as I'm not in a real big hurry 6-8 month They will check these parts out so they can put them into production it helped in convincing them that no one else made these parts on the market and there were 22,430 models were made.
Doright
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I play with cars because Jets are way too serious to be fun any more
I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more

Nacho-RT74

good step forward :thumbs:

Still think it is posible try to fit regulars on 72 SE it at home, but of course is a kick on the A$$ modify something that you bought for a plug and play job
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

NHCharger

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on March 06, 2007, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: NHCharger on March 06, 2007, 09:00:43 PM
My 71 SE has the exact same windows as both my regular 72's.
Looking at the 72 SE's they have the opera window like Nacho said, which is a different shape than the regular quarter glass window.

eeehm, 72 SE is not opera window, is just a body plug filler to make smaller and more "square" the quarter glass, however rest is the same and in fact glass itself is the same as far I know.



Damn, can't believe I typed that. I do know the difference between the opera and the squared off windows. Should not be typing when I'm so tired. I better check the other thread to make sure I didn't tell the other guy to cut out his firewall to change his gauge cluster :P
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Nacho-RT74

Quote from: NHCharger on March 07, 2007, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on March 06, 2007, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: NHCharger on March 06, 2007, 09:00:43 PM
My 71 SE has the exact same windows as both my regular 72's.
Looking at the 72 SE's they have the opera window like Nacho said, which is a different shape than the regular quarter glass window.

eeehm, 72 SE is not opera window, is just a body plug filler to make smaller and more "square" the quarter glass, however rest is the same and in fact glass itself is the same as far I know.



Damn, can't believe I typed that. I do know the difference between the opera and the squared off windows. Should not be typing when I'm so tired. I better check the other thread to make sure I didn't tell the other guy to cut out his firewall to change his gauge cluster :P

LOL!!!! HURRY!!! CHECK IT!!!

It was some weird when I read that from you :P
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

RogerDodger

Quote from: NHCharger on March 06, 2007, 09:00:43 PM
My 71 SE has the exact same windows as both my regular 72's.
Looking at the 72 SE's they have the opera window like Nacho said, which is a different shape than the regular quarter glass window.
This is correct. My 72 SE the quarter windows did roll up and down. The glass is actually the same as all 72 Chargers only the body and trim cover the back part of the glass on the SE.

twilt

Quote from: hemihead on March 06, 2007, 11:41:34 PM
The 72 SE is not the same as the 71 SE nor does it have any ' filler plug' .The B pillar on the 71 SE angles back like all 71's and 72's but the B pillar on the 72 SE is more of a verticle.

Actually, the 72SE does have a plug that is spot welded in then filled over. It does not have a unique B pillar. On this pic you can see where the filler is breaking up around the plug. As far as the window seals.....The 1/4 window SEALS (rubber seal between 1/4 window and door glass) are the same on the 71/72 regardless of being an SE or not.

The 1/4 window weatherstripping, AKA catwhiskers is unique to the SE, and are NOT reproduced. I have doubts that they will repro them for a 22k production car. As Nacho mentioned, trying to shorten up/modify a regular 71/72 set is probably the only way to go.   

On a side note. I guess the interior sail panels and lower rear door panels must be unique to an SE cars as the sail panels have to be longer...
Yes, the actual 1/4 windows are the same. The SE deal just covers some of it.