Original paint?

[Lizzy]

Hi guys,

My 68 Charger started her life as a PP1 car. She was painted dark blue and later on she was given a kind of burgundy-reddish-brown paint.
When I removed this 2 layers with some fine grits waterproof sandpaper, I noticed that the original PP1 red paint is still underneath.
I would like to bring the original paint back, but it's really difficult because the paint is really thin and the sandpaper also removes small amounts of the original red paint.
Some help & good ideas how to make my Charger an 'original paint car' would be great! 

[dkn1997]

I think you might have better luck turning a hamburger back into a cow  

Seriousely, though...I don't think it can be done, as you have experienced already, it's too diffiucult to remove the other layers without damageing the base. plus that base was probably scuffed/sanded to get the subsequent layers to stick...

good luck, nice charger..

[terrible one]

Strip it completely and give it a fresh coat of PP1

[hemi-hampton]

You can only be original once but you can restore you car over & over a 100 times. Your original paint is History, Kiss it goodby. Only thing you can do is repaint it original color. Or, just buy a original paint car like mine. LEON.

[Lizzy]

Leon... I'm afraid I don't have the money for that... maybe if I work till I'm 90 years old... and then I'm too old to drive my original paint Charger... 
So we'll just keep this one 

[HITMAN 149]

spray it BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha
good luck with her or him (guys name cars girls names & girls usually name cars guys names?!?!?!?)

[Lizzy]

We're both she's 
And the last thing I'll EVER do, is spray her black...   

[HITMAN 149]

so what's HER name (and i kinda figured you were a woman by your screen name!!!! LOL)
okie dokie!!!!!!!!!! SOOOOO what's wrong with BLACK!?!?!?!?!? geeeez a lil touchy about the color arent we?!?!?!? LOL 
i was only bustin chops...cause i usually say "the only 3 colors a 68 charger should come in are...BLACK...BLACK...& BLACK!!!!!"
i'm looking to make my 68 r/t triple black!!! i was only razzzzin ya a lil!!!
welcome to DC.com!!!!!! so...give us the skinny on your ride!!!!! motor..tranny & all that good stuff!!!!!!

-JOHN

[Lizzy]

I know a 68 Charger should be black (triple black Chargers rule)... but I'm a fendertag-kind-a-girl, so I consider it a crime to spray a PP1 car black.  (Wasn't always that freaky, but had some major fendertag-influenced friends    )

My car is a Hamtramck car, then moved to Sacramento, Las Vegas, California, The Netherlands and now Belgium. I bought it in July from a guy in Tilburg (The Netherlands).

Although I'm not sure whether you could order a White Hat Special Charger in '68, my car has all the options that came with a White Hat Special package.
She's a 383 (not matching #s, I think it's a replacement engine) 4-barrel, a 727 tf automatic, Center Front Seat, Bucket Seats, Hood Mounted Turn Signal Indicators (not functional yet  ), Driver's Outside Remote Operated Mirror and it was a Sold Car When Built. She also has Power Brakes, had a AM Radio (now a cd-player),Tinted Windshield Only and a White Vinyl Top (not the original). AXLE: 3.23 Rear Axle Ratio, Deluxe Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats, White on Black Interior. Monotone Red Paint (not very red at the moment... ) and White Upper Door Frame Color. She came with 7.35 x 14 WSW Tires, but as you see, the real vintage Torq Thrust D's are all I have now (like we care...   

Anything more you need to know?   

[HITMAN 149]

DAMN GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm sure you just made alot of guys on this site's day!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
see...mine has no fender tag and i'm not much of a concourse original guy!!!!! i'm more of a resto/mod guy!!!!! as i think NYCMILLE's 68 is the shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well i gotta get some shut eye...as midnight will be here before i know it!!!!!
catch ya later........

[Lizzy]

Yeah, NYCMILLE's '68 Charger is a beautiful car, that's for sure...
We're all Charger-lovers, so it doesn't really matter whether you're a matching #s-man (or woman) or a mod-person... We're all trying to keep as much Chargers alive as we can... and that's what matters, right? 

PS: If you like Black Chargers... check this one out (it's a no-triple black 70 Charger though  ):

[HITMAN 149]

yea.....ray over at texas toybox does some great mopar stuff...one of my fav's is the 73 cuda they just did!!! and YES...that's what it's all about...our mopars!!!!!!!!!! !!!!but of course we have to razzzzz each other every now & then!!!!!!!!!! hehehehe!!!

[hemi-hampton]

Sorry, Wish I could be of more help. BUT, Being a Painter I know there is not much you can do to save that old paint if it's hiding under 2 repaints. The Factory only used 2 thin coats of Acrylic Enamel. Who knows what's on top of that with the repaints? You could try but I'm afraid the end results will not be pretty unfortunately. Any Chick that knows Mopar like you do is allright in my book Good luck. LEON.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

well looks so far being a non #'s match car so i say go anywhich route you want, my dads car was equipped like yours cept colours were yellow w/black top and int, this is it 2day with the popular black colour combo for the 68 now packing a 610hp stroked 440 -MATT






altho pp1 with white on white is very unique and i dare say it............sexy , but then again what do i know im a teenage punk..a CHARGERPUNK -MATT

[Lizzy]

Matt, is that your dad's car?    Wish my father drove a Charger like that...  wish he drove a Charger... wish he liked my Charger... 

I always thought a red '68 Charger with white vinyl top is kind of a classy car (sexy if you want  ), but I must admit the colour is not very important to me... as long as it's the colour that's on the fendertag 

By the way.. Anyone else got some good ideas to bring my original paint back?

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

yeah thats my pops car we got for a steal less then 15k(engine wasnt running) ,but as hampton said the end result would look bad, is the engine compartment,trunk and door jams burgundy 2?

[Lizzy]

the engine compartment :the hood is blue & original paint red (where the isolation material was) (see picture)

trunk: burgundy and blue

door jams: or. paint red & some blue

on second thought... I'm gonna name my car Rainbow Brite

[bull]

I wouldn't worry about it myself. I'd be damn glad there's no rust to deal with (if that's the case) and reshoot it. If you don't have any rust you're already light years ahead of most Charger owners.

[Lizzy]

Only a little rust on 2 quarter panels (especially right rear quarter panel), but I'm gonna have that fixed in the wintertime 

[six-tee-nine]

Hey lizz


Know you from MCH forum and i'm also Belgian.


First i wanna say head's up with the car she still looks nice i think and second do you mind telling me how many Euro's / dollars you paid for it?

[Lizzy]

 

[Ghoste]

For the record Lizzy, you could get a White Hat Special in 1968.  I THINK (and I have to stress that because I'm no fender tag decoding expert by any stretch) the code would appear on the tag as a "1" under the "E" or "F".  The broadcast sheet should call it out as a 361.

[Lizzy]

Hmm... no 1 under the "E" or "F" on my fendertag...
I haven't got the broadcast sheet, so can't check that.. 

[Ghoste]

Well, like I said, I am NOT an expert.
What is on your fender tag?

[Lizzy]

abc OPTIONS:
a5: Center Front Seat
b4: Bucket Seats
h7: Fender or Hood Mounted Turn Signal Indicators
m6: Driver's Outside Remote Operated Mirror
u1: Sold Car When Built (Somebody Ordered It)

ABC OPTIONS:
H1: Power Brakes
R1: AM Radio
X2: Tinted Windshield Only
Y7: White Vinyl Top

MOLDINGS:
2 5: Drip Rail Mouldings
3 0: Body Belt Mouldings
7 8: Wheel Lip Mouldings

AXLE: 4:  3.23 Rear Axle Ratio

INTERIOR: C6W: Deluxe Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats. White on Black Interior.

PAINT: PP1:  Monotone Red Paint.

UBS:W: White Upper Door Frame Color

XP29 62 5 33 125 200545

062   383-4bbl Engine
5   Transmission: Automatic Torqueflite
033   7.35 x 14 WSW Tires


Engine:


Engine/Disp.    Carburetion   Bore/Stroke   Compression Ratio   Horsepower @ RPM   Torque @ RPM   Normal Oil Pressure

V8-383   4-bbl   4.25 x 3.375   10.0:1   300 @ 4400   400 @ 2400   45-65


Engine color:

Engine   Years   Variations   Color   Mopar Part Number

383 V8   1962-69   All   Turquoise    P4120752


RB/B Engine Cylinder Heads Casting Numbers
Casting Number   Engine CID   Year   Intake   Exhaust

2843906   383/440   1968-70   2.08   1.74