Oct '06 sales #s...

[Brock Samson]

Because we periodicly discuss the stats of Charger sales figures... I thought I'd link to this informative thread over on all par..

http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=85214

charger stats are at the last...

the short story:
there was a 136% increase in Charger sales from 40,840 to 96,387.





a big THANKS to Hemi Dakota!   

[bull]

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[Silver R/T]

which charger, not 06, is it?

[Brock Samson]

ah, yeah,..   

[myk]

Lol.  Anyway, those rental fleets must be snapping them up.  Well, I've actually been seeing alot of R/T's and stuff rolling around too.  I think I even caught a SuperBee at a local dealership...

[bull]

Lol.  Anyway, those rental fleets must be snapping them up.  Well, I've actually been seeing alot of R/T's and stuff rolling around too.  I think I even caught a SuperBee at a local dealership...

Rental fleets and police agencies too. I wonder how many sales went for those?

[azraelck]

Shelby Co Sherriff Dept has at least 8 Chargers. Mostly V6's. Galloway Police have at least two, one of which is "Hemi" equipped. Memphis City Police, which has a much larger budget, more area to cover, and a much, much, much higher crime rate; has a large number of "new" 1989 Dodge Diplomat and Plymouth Gran Fury cars. They also have '91-96 Chevy Caprice's, and the same year range Ford CVs. They have a handful (rather rare to see) of newer Ford CVs. They do have a handful of Intrepids floating around; they like them better than the CVs, and they aren't quite as worn out as the Dippies and Furies. They were obtained when other departments felt bad for them and sold them some at auction.

[bull]

It's funny how many cars are sold by US automakers compared to years ago and yet they are all losing money, some to the point of near bankruptcy. And today there are roughly 100,000,000 more consumers living in the US than there were during the mid-1960s so it's not as if the money isn't being spent. So if 96,387 '06 units sold and 96,100 '68 units sold, and yet there are 100,000,000 more people in the US, the '06 is a miserable failure by comparison, right? If we were to compare apples to apples the '06 would have to sell 33% better to match the '68 model sales, and that's not counting population increases in other countries. Now we need to compare the average Charger price to median income from then to today.

[AirborneSilva]

Here in Southern Arizona the boarder patrol has some chargers.  I had an opportunity to chat with an agen this morning, he said he loved it, that it had the Hemi in it and mentioned that he "heard" (wink, wink, nod, nod), that it will do 140 MPH 

[Brock Samson]

somewhat related to what Bull said,.. You have to remember there are approx 50 plus brands being sold here now,.. compared to say 1970 when there were maybe a dozen total...

[70charginglizard]

Here in Southern Arizona the boarder patrol has some chargers.  I had an opportunity to chat with an agen this morning, he said he loved it, that it had the Hemi in it and mentioned that he "heard" (wink, wink, nod, nod), that it will do 140 MPH 

cool. maybe at 140mph a couple of those doors might fly off....lmao

[bull]

Here in Southern Arizona the boarder patrol has some chargers.  I had an opportunity to chat with an agen this morning, he said he loved it, that it had the Hemi in it and mentioned that he "heard" (wink, wink, nod, nod), that it will do 140 MPH 

cool. maybe at 140mph a couple of those doors might fly off....lmao

Maybe the "ugly" would fly off too.

[Brock Samson]

here's another link to allpar lamenting the intro of a 2.7 econocharger... 
not too much different then a classic with a slant 6 except i think they only made a few dozen of those..
here's the figures are well into the many thousands... 

http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=85272

[DC_1]

I drive up and down highway 401 which is the most direct route to Detroit from the plant in Bramalea that builds the Charger/300/Magnum. In the last few months I have noticed a significant number of what I would say are Law Enforcement vehicles on the car carriers. Plain Jane wheels and A pillar mounted spot lights are a dead give away. I think those sales are definitely helping boost the sales numbers.

[Zentelis]

Maybe the "ugly" would fly off too.

The only thing left would be an engine 

[Arthu®]

It's funny how many cars are sold by US automakers compared to years ago and yet they are all losing money, some to the point of near bankruptcy. And today there are roughly 100,000,000 more consumers living in the US than there were during the mid-1960s so it's not as if the money isn't being spent. So if 96,387 '06 units sold and 96,100 '68 units sold, and yet there are 100,000,000 more people in the US, the '06 is a miserable failure by comparison, right? If we were to compare apples to apples the '06 would have to sell 33% better to match the '68 model sales, and that's not counting population increases in other countries. Now we need to compare the average Charger price to median income from then to today.

True, but back in the day the only really strong automotive sellers were the big three. Nowadays you have a ton more strong competitors on the market.

Arthur

[Big Lebowski]

Maybe the "ugly" would fly off too.

The only thing left would be an engine 

   Yuck, heavy car, V-6 slug, and I'm 100% sure it can't take my 6-pack Charger at the green light.

[6pkrunner]

Not only compare average salaries to the new Charger costs, but the wants and needs for a new vehicle has changed dramatically in the last 35 years or so. With what I'll laughingly call today's cars sophistication (read drove the backyard mechanic into oblivion) the average consumer today knows very little about their car. Other than ricers, there are'nt hordes of gearheads today swooning over North American iron. That also can be blamed on the big 3 switched focus onto the profit rich SUVs. In the interim a lot of importers were refining their offerings to what the new type of consumer wanted.
I will have to agree with some that deep discounted units went to fleet sales to lessen sitting inventories. I do not see a whole lot of new Chargers sitting in owner's driveways. Maybe I live in a one off area, but I doubt it. Theree are always some in the rental agencies lots, but not a lot of privately owned ones.

[bull]

Not only compare average salaries to the new Charger costs, but the wants and needs for a new vehicle has changed dramatically in the last 35 years or so. With what I'll laughingly call today's cars sophistication (read drove the backyard mechanic into oblivion) the average consumer today knows very little about their car. Other than ricers, there are'nt hordes of gearheads today swooning over North American iron. That also can be blamed on the big 3 switched focus onto the profit rich SUVs. In the interim a lot of importers were refining their offerings to what the new type of consumer wanted.
I will have to agree with some that deep discounted units went to fleet sales to lessen sitting inventories. I do not see a whole lot of new Chargers sitting in owner's driveways. Maybe I live in a one off area, but I doubt it. Theree are always some in the rental agencies lots, but not a lot of privately owned ones.

I agree. And what it sounds like to me is there's a niche in the market out there for someone to build simple, stripped-down and easy to work on cars.

[6pkrunner]

I agree. And what it sounds like to me is there's a niche in the market out there for someone to build simple, stripped-down and easy to work on cars.

-if Chrysler offered no frills, no options but for the 6.1 425hp, 5 or 6 speed 2008 Challengers for mid to high $20s - there's a recipe for success. No interior dressups, leather, dual range air conditioning, heated seats, fender skirts, 400 speaker stereos, online GPS and internet access, 50 inch plasma HDTV, butler to open your doors. Well they'd sell a ton of them. But wait and see what's offered. I am not going to knock it, but see if its going to be like the original road runner concept or if you can only get an upscale luxo-barge version with the 6.1.

[Orange_Crush]

Not only compare average salaries to the new Charger costs, but the wants and needs for a new vehicle has changed dramatically in the last 35 years or so. With what I'll laughingly call today's cars sophistication (read drove the backyard mechanic into oblivion) the average consumer today knows very little about their car. Other than ricers, there are'nt hordes of gearheads today swooning over North American iron. That also can be blamed on the big 3 switched focus onto the profit rich SUVs. In the interim a lot of importers were refining their offerings to what the new type of consumer wanted.
I will have to agree with some that deep discounted units went to fleet sales to lessen sitting inventories. I do not see a whole lot of new Chargers sitting in owner's driveways. Maybe I live in a one off area, but I doubt it. Theree are always some in the rental agencies lots, but not a lot of privately owned ones.

I agree. And what it sounds like to me is there's a niche in the market out there for someone to build simple, stripped-down and easy to work on cars.

Good luck.

The automakers are not to blame for what you lament.  Its the federal government with mandated emissions control, OBDII, airbags, etc.  This, coupled with modern design requirements madating smaller engine compartments which are packed with more stuff have made working on our own cars a virtual impossibility.

On top of that, we have a public hat deminds power windows, locks, and brakes, A/C, killer stereos, ABS, Traction control and so on in even the cheapest of cars and there is no incentive for an automaker to bring out a stripper model.

But lets look at the other side of the coin.

Todays cars are quieter, more comfortable, cleaner, safer, and more powerful than ever before (Lebowski's six pack car not withstanding).

[Lowprofile]

It's funny how many cars are sold by US automakers compared to years ago and yet they are all losing money, some to the point of near bankruptcy. And today there are roughly 100,000,000 more consumers living in the US than there were during the mid-1960s so it's not as if the money isn't being spent. So if 96,387 '06 units sold and 96,100 '68 units sold, and yet there are 100,000,000 more people in the US, the '06 is a miserable failure by comparison, right? If we were to compare apples to apples the '06 would have to sell 33% better to match the '68 model sales, and that's not counting population increases in other countries. Now we need to compare the average Charger price to median income from then to today.

It seems to me that half the country drives either a Honda or a Toyota of some kind.   

[Zentelis]

It seems to me that half the country drives either a Honda or a Toyota of some kind.   

Ya know that there are about 350,000 to 400,000 Honda Civics produced every year?
I don't think the entire run of 1g+2g+3g Chargers even matched that number!
That's JUST Civics..that doesn't include accords, camry's, etc etc.
And, Honda is upping the anty, they want to produce up to 440,000 Civics annually now..JUST in America!

Who the hell is buying all these cars?

But..that's why you see them everywhere..they're producing like rabbits.

[Ghoste]

Actually I think Rabbits are produced by Volkswagen. 

[Zentelis]

Actually I think Rabbits are produced by Volkswagen. 

hardy-har-har