What R the different types of '69 Chargers

[shaunross]

What are the different types of '69 Chargers.  R/T,  S/E,  Regular, etc.  Since I'm looking...I'm trying to find out what kinds there are.  Someone told me there was only the three.  What does R/T and S/E Stand for?  I'm assuming Race and Track & Special Edition?

Please educate me.

[Ghoste]

Road and Track and Special Edition.  You could get them separately on the base model or combined.  There is also the 69 Charger 500 and the very rare Charger 500 SE for 69.  Then of course we have the mighty 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona.
So you have a possibility of 7 versions and some consider the Hemi powered cars to be a version unto themselves which based on the model breakdown I gave you would allow for 5 more giving a total of 12. I hope you are not as confused as I am at this point.

[shaunross]

So there is a base model separate from the R/T and S/E?  What does the R/T have different from the S/E?

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

www.1969chargerregistry.com
for more info

[Mike DC]

 
What kind of car are you wanting to end up with?  Racer?  Street cruiser?  Stock-looking restoration?  Do you care about originality & matching numbers?  Are you planning to buy a finished car or overhaul something yourself?

With some info about your project ideas, we can probably tell you more about what's relevant to your situation.

 

[2fast4u]

   Couldn't you get any model of '69 Charger with the SE package?.........from base model to Daytona.


2fast

[Ghoste]

I don't believe there were any Daytona SE's.  The fake 70 Daytona's have at least one as an SE model.  And yes, Shaun, there is a base model separate from the RT and SE.  The SE was largely a trim package with such things as chrome trim around the brake and throttle pedals and woodgrain dash with leather inserts on the seats.  It was available on the base, the RT, and the 500.  The RT was largely a powertrain option with a 440 as the standard engine and the Hemi the only option.  It also included bigger brakes and springs.  The Hemi suspension in short.

[shaunross]

I'm looking to drive it daily.  I don't have a preference on originality and I don't know what you mean about matching numbers.  I'm planning on buying one that is finished.  I'm not looking for a project car.  

My preference is a 4 speed, 383 or higher., R/T

[Ghoste]

RT will be 440 or Hemi.

[Brock Samson]

R/Ts were only made with either the 440 or HEMI. (though the '70 Challanger R/Ts came with the 383).
R/Ts Chargers in '68, '69 and '70 were produced in the thousands with 440s & HEMIs only produced in the hundreds...
Special Editions were also made in the thousands and were a luxury dress up package, while R/Ts were a preformance package.
Sometimes they were both on a charger,.. Air conditioning can be found on Many SEs and were only avail. on 440s Not HEMIs.
So it is possible to have an R/T S.E. with a 440 and Air cond. like mine but not possible to have a Hemi R/T with a/c.
seldom did a S.E. come with a four speed transmission i have seen pictures of a few though.

there is a Search feature on this site,.. punch in S.E. or "Special Editon"..

Welcome to the site and good hunting.  

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I don't believe there were any Daytona SE's.  The fake 70 Daytona's have at least one as an SE model.  And yes, Shaun, there is a base model separate from the RT and SE.  The SE was largely a trim package with such things as chrome trim around the brake and throttle pedals and woodgrain dash with leather inserts on the seats.  It was available on the base, the RT, and the 500. The RT was largely a powertrain option with a 440 as the standard engine and the Hemi the only option.  It also included bigger brakes and springs.  The Hemi suspension in short.

I have 2 Daytona SE's in the registry as well as 4 500 SE's

[Mike DC]

 

I'm looking to drive it daily.

This isn't gonna be easy, for a bunch of reasons.  A lot of people get into the hobby wanting to do this but very few people in the hobby end up following through on it.  If you're driving it several days a week in decent weather then you're doing pretty well.

Do you have much experience with 1960s/70s cars?

I don't have a preference on originality and I don't know what you mean about matching numbers.

"Matching numbers" is when the engine's serial number matches the one for the car (meaning that it's this particular car's original engine).  This issue doesn't have any mechanical reasoning, but it can make a difference in collectible value.  Particluarly on cars that were factory-built R/Ts.

If you don't care about originality at all, then you don't necessarily have to pay extra for an original "R/T" Charger either.  It's always been a common project for car guys to take a base model Charger and put the bigger driverain/suspension into it.  You may not want to do it yourself but there are a lot of these cars already out there.
 

I'm planning on buying one that is finished.

Good idea.  It's a much better deal than restoring a car these days.

   

[mustanghater]

There were 12 i think orginal Daytona SE's.

[shaunross]

 

I'm looking to drive it daily.

This isn't gonna be easy, for a bunch of reasons.  A lot of people get into the hobby wanting to do this but very few people in the hobby end up following through on it.  If you're driving it several days a week in decent weather then you're doing pretty well.

Do you have much experience with 1960s/70s cars?

I don't have a preference on originality and I don't know what you mean about matching numbers.

 


Do you mean that it's not going to be easy to drive it daily?  Is it not normal to drive it daily?  Please clarify.  And nope...I don't have much experience with 60s/70s cars.
Thanks Mike.

[Brock Samson]

i think the big question is...
What's your Budget?..

[shaunross]

i think the big question is...
What's your Budget?..

it's 15k

[69CoronetRT]

I don't believe there were any Daytona SE's. 

[Brock Samson]

$15K?.. that ought to be enff...
dont know about a finished R/T though...

[Ghoste]

I don't believe there were any Daytona SE's. 

Now I believe it.
Cool, I'll have to watch for one.

[Charger Aficionado]

I read stats that there were 7 Daytona SEs and 13 500 SEs...  but who knows...

[2fast4u]

   Okay....now that we have the Daytona had the optional SE package......the photo that 69CoronetRT posted also says it has V88 delete stripe.  And the photo above the MSRP label shows the black DAYTONA stripe.....I'm confused a bit.   can someone explain this one?

2fast

[hemigeno]

   Okay....now that we have the Daytona had the optional SE package......the photo that 69CoronetRT posted also says it has V88 delete stripe.  And the photo above the MSRP label shows the black DAYTONA stripe.....I'm confused a bit.   can someone explain this one?

2fast

2fast,

When the cars were built at Hamtramck, they were coded for the V88 stripe delete, since Creative Industries had to do all the work around the decklid opening.  That included replacing the entire decklid.  Creative Industries installed the wider Daytona stripes when they did the conversion.  It was easier to make sure the stripes lined up between the quarterpanels and decklid by installing all three stripe sections at the same time, so Chrysler had Creative do the stripe install.

A few of the Daytonas were accidentally built by Hamtramck with the R/T quarterpanel emblems installed, which was the Standard Operating Procedure with an R/T coded for V88 stripe delete.  Creative Industries then had to fill in the holes so that the Daytona stripe could be installed.  You could still see the patch job from inside the trunk though.  Some of those same cars were given the R/T tailpanel emblem too, even though they were supposed to get the standard Charger & arrowhead emblem.  Creative left those alone though, since they didn't do any painting work with Organosol.

All Daytonas and Charger 500's were coded V88 stripe delete.  These cars were essentially built twice - once at Hamtramck, and a second time at Creative.  The fender tag and window sticker only lists the information from the Hamtramck build.

Geno

[hemigeno]

Oh yeah - it was possible to order a Daytona without the tailstripe, although there were very few that were done that way.  The documents I've seen at least show it as being an option.  I have only heard about such cars, but I believe that a few isolated examples do exist.  In that instance, the wing was painted body color a la Superbirds.  The stripe is the only thing that says "Daytona", so maybe that's why most of the cars came with stripes?   

[2fast4u]

    Thanks for clearin' that up for me Geno!