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Tracing My Cars History - Help Needed

Started by The Rebel, May 16, 2021, 03:27:24 PM

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The Rebel

Hey all. New member here but a long time member over at FBBO. Seems I've hit a dead end looking for the history on my car so I'm casting a larger net in the hopes someone might know my car.

I know it's a long shot but need a contact as I'm trying to find what dealership sold my car in MI.

1968 Dodge Charger VIN XP29H8B265809

Just an added note, I'm not looking to find a lost car I'm looking for the history of the car that I own.

Past Research
I reached out to the City of Livonia, where I bought my car and where the PO bought it as well. They don't keep any records, tax, DMV...etc...

I reached out to the Archives of Michigan/Michigan History Center, then the Detroit Historical Society. No dice there.

I spoke to the Sec. Of State's office (they run the DMV) and they told me they only have records going back to 2006, anything older than that is destroyed. So I said what the heck & filled out some forms to do a title search and hit some pay dirt.

I was able to get back 2 owners ago and the forms contained his full name & address. I tried using Yellow Pages + other online websites but all of them you have to pay for the info. I decided to call the operator & gave them the info I had & in no time I had his number.

Bill and I spoke and he told me the below info. If anyone has any recollections of seeing my car in Livonia, I'd love to know more from you.

1. Bill was either the 2nd or 3rd owner. He bought the car in 1984 in Livonia for about $1,225-$1,250.

2. The car was original miles, I got it with 78,xxx.

3. The guy he bought it from was a toolmaker, named Jim who worked at one of the Dodge plants. Apparently his son took the car out & ripped out the exhaust system going over some RR tracks. The exhaust system was redone but the pipes went under the rear axle not over it, so he took it to a place called Dave's Exhaust over on Michigan Ave to be redone correctly. Talked to Dave but no dice there either.

4. Bill had Paul Hatton do the pin stripes.

5. The car was raced at Telegraph Rd.

6. Talked to a PI in MI on Friday, turns out he's Mopar fan. He did some checking for me at no charge and wasn't able to get any other info than what I had.

"I am not finding anything beyond what you already have for your Dodge. The Secretary of State Title History is usually my go-to, but since you already have that I ran the DMV database (registration & title by VIN and plate) and only find your record of ownership and the prior owner, nothing beyond that. The SOS Title History is the search to run, and matches what I can get even with our DPPA access. At the end of the day, the records do only go back so far no matter your level of access."

68 Charger, 383-4BBL, 727

"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; learn from Northern school books THEIR version of the war; and taught to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects of derision." Gen. Patrick Cleburne, CSA

XH29N0G

Interesting story and a lot of digging so far.  I don't have an answer, and hope you find one. 
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

The Rebel

Thanks!  I spend most of my time over at FBBO but I'm casting a big net hoping to catch a lead as I've posted over at Moparts as well. :thumbs:
68 Charger, 383-4BBL, 727

"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; learn from Northern school books THEIR version of the war; and taught to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects of derision." Gen. Patrick Cleburne, CSA

XH29N0G

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

tan top

Quote from: The Rebel on May 16, 2021, 03:27:24 PM
Hey all. New member here but a long time member over at FBBO. Seems I've hit a dead end looking for the history on my car so I'm casting a larger net in the hopes someone might know my car.

Hello & welcome  :wave: :cheers:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

The Rebel

68 Charger, 383-4BBL, 727

"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; learn from Northern school books THEIR version of the war; and taught to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects of derision." Gen. Patrick Cleburne, CSA

The Rebel

Quote from: tan top on May 19, 2021, 06:39:15 AM
Quote from: The Rebel on May 16, 2021, 03:27:24 PM
Hey all. New member here but a long time member over at FBBO. Seems I've hit a dead end looking for the history on my car so I'm casting a larger net in the hopes someone might know my car.

Hello & welcome  :wave: :cheers:

Thanks! :2thumbs:
68 Charger, 383-4BBL, 727

"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; learn from Northern school books THEIR version of the war; and taught to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects of derision." Gen. Patrick Cleburne, CSA

The Rebel


Pretty cool site on FB, https://www.facebook.com/lostmusclecars.

Thinking of posting over there to see if anyone might know the history of my car.
68 Charger, 383-4BBL, 727

"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; learn from Northern school books THEIR version of the war; and taught to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects of derision." Gen. Patrick Cleburne, CSA

lloyd3

Before 9/11 this was alot easier. Since that time, security was the excuse for not digging further and then the old paper records were all digitized. I tracked my car back from Virginia through New Jersey, through Nebraska, to Bellevue, Iowa. But, I did that in the last century (in the 90s). I tried to contact the original owner but he has passed.

dkn1997

Quote from: lloyd3 on April 09, 2023, 09:05:06 PMBefore 9/11 this was alot easier. Since that time, security was the excuse for not digging further and then the old paper records were all digitized. I tracked my car back from Virginia through New Jersey, through Nebraska, to Bellevue, Iowa. But, I did that in the last century (in the 90s). I tried to contact the original owner but he has passed.

Yes, it was easier.  In the late 90's I found an old NC inspection receipt on the glovebox of my current charger.  I wrote a letter to NC dmv and for like $6.00 I got tons of documentation about the first owner and the 2nd.  I am the 4th owner.  I spoke to owners #2 and #3 by calling 411 and getting thier numbers lol. 

I believe I found the original owner on a FB post.  She was being honored by the fire dept in the town where the car was purchased.  she herself not on FB but there was a pic of her on the FD facebook page and the age looks right... people commented on it with same last name and I reached out to all of them and got crickets lol...

From what I gathered, she was just some lady who bought the car new and sold it a while later. I don't even want any info from her, just wanted to show her that her old car was alive and well
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