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1970 Charger standard steering wheel question

Started by Finoke, March 20, 2020, 06:36:11 PM

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Finoke

Hi Guys
I'm converting my 70 Charger back to a standard steering wheel. The car had a 1980 aftermarket wheel on it.

I bought a pg classic 1970 wheel. I bought a used 70 horn pad with ring. I bought a used 70 horn switch.

Something is definitely wrong. The pad doesn't fit well.

I will post pics. Any idea what is going on ?

Tom

AKcharger

My eyes perked up when I saw "PG CLASSIC WHEEL" Repo stuff is CRAP. I haven't heard anything in Particular about that wheel but I'm suspicious. I'd call them and ask if they're had issues. I'd then pull the  horn cover and measure the wheel and see if another member can help with original measurements.

Good luck


Finoke

Quote from: AKcharger on March 20, 2020, 07:22:48 PM
My eyes perked up when I saw "PG CLASSIC WHEEL" Repo stuff is CRAP. I haven't heard anything in Particular about that wheel but I'm suspicious. I'd call them and ask if they're had issues. I'd then pull the  horn cover and measure the wheel and see if another member can help with original measurements.

Good luck



Yup will definitely pull and see what's going on. It's been awhile since I restored a 70 but for the life of me I can't remember having an issue before.

birdsandbees

I have one of their '70 wheels in a box and installed a '69 on my Bee to replace my cracked wheel. Zero difference between OE and theirs as to how the horn pad sits.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Finoke

Quote from: birdsandbees on March 20, 2020, 09:33:44 PM
I have one of their '70 wheels in a box and installed a '69 on my Bee to replace my cracked wheel. Zero difference between OE and theirs as to how the horn pad sits.

Thank you. Good to know.

birdsandbees

You've got to have some good distance, otherwise the pad can't rock to one side to activate the horn. Here's my '69 done with the new PG wheel... no different than it was with the OE wheel.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Alaskan_TA

I would trust the original part more than any reproduction myself but before blaming that, any issues with the assembly?

I have seen steering wheels installed slightly off & torqued down crooked before........

There were also two different horn switches in use, one for center pad push to activate & a lighter duty version for full & partial horn ring cars since they required less leverage to activate.

Neither horn switch would affect fit though.

birdsandbees

I'll take a picture of my OE '70 wheel in my Bird tomorrow, it's never been out.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Finoke

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on March 20, 2020, 10:07:26 PM
I would trust the original part more than any reproduction myself but before blaming that, any issues with the assembly?

I have seen steering wheels installed slightly off & torqued down crooked before........

There were also two different horn switches in use, one for center pad push to activate & a lighter duty version for full & partial horn ring cars since they required less leverage to activate.

Neither horn switch would affect fit though.

Thx Barry! What is the purpose of the raised piece that sticks out past the disk that you screw the horn pad on to. Does that help center the horn pad?

Finoke

Quote from: birdsandbees on March 20, 2020, 10:09:56 PM
I'll take a picture of my OE '70 wheel in my Bird tomorrow, it's never been out.

That would be awesome and much appreciated. I just seem to remember my 70 RR had a better fitment  in that area. It's been awhile since I owned a B body.

AKcharger


DAY CLONA

Keep in  mind the 70 wheel is a one year only part, are you sure you don't have a 67-69 wheel?

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: DAY CLONA on March 21, 2020, 08:23:20 AM
Keep in  mind the 70 wheel is a one year only part, are you sure you don't have a 67-69 wheel?

it wouldn't match with steering column diameter and the pics he shows on initial post shows they are matched
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birdsandbees

He has the correct grained finish wheel, vs the smooth 69 down wheel.

Here's my OE never removed '70 SBirds wheel and horn ring pad.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Finoke

Quote from: birdsandbees on March 21, 2020, 09:53:40 AM
He has the correct grained finish wheel, vs the smooth 69 down wheel.

Here's my OE never removed '70 SBirds wheel and horn ring pad.

Awesome, thx! I'm going to say that's the gap I'm seeing and it's normal. Thanks for taking the time to confirm for me!

I think it struck me as wider than normal because my seats are white and I can see the white when I look through the gap.