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flywheel question!

Started by cavemanno1, December 21, 2016, 03:58:40 PM

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cavemanno1

In my flywheel there are 6 little bearings that roll up and down as I move the flywheel around.They are located between the springs.My mechanic said he has never seen one before like that.Is it normal or they should be seated firmly?What purpose do they serve?

Thanks,

XH29N0G

Isn't that a pressure plate for the clutch?  I would think those bearings are related having those fingers move when the clutch is depressed so the pressure plate pulls back from the flywheel.

I just looked on the web, are things like on the site what you are looking at?  http://constructionmanuals.tpub.com/14273/css/Coil-spring-pressure-plate-137.htm

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

John_Kunkel


Those are called "centrifugal assist rollers"; as the RPM increases the rollers are thrown outward by centrifugal force and wedge themselves between the pressure plate and the cover...this increases the clutch's holding grip as the rpm/power increases.
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cavemanno1

Quote from: XH29N0G on December 21, 2016, 06:07:20 PM
Isn't that a pressure plate for the clutch?  I would think those bearings are related having those fingers move when the clutch is depressed so the pressure plate pulls back from the flywheel.

I just looked on the web, are things like on the site what you are looking at?  http://constructionmanuals.tpub.com/14273/css/Coil-spring-pressure-plate-137.htm



Sorry,yes pressure plate.Don't know why wrote flywheel.

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 21, 2016, 07:06:43 PM

Those are called "centrifugal assist rollers"; as the RPM increases the rollers are thrown outward by centrifugal force and wedge themselves between the pressure plate and the cover...this increases the clutch's holding grip as the rpm/power increases.

So these are good then and won't need the buy another one?!

Thank you!

Sublime/Sixpack

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 21, 2016, 07:06:43 PM

Those are called "centrifugal assist rollers"; as the RPM increases the rollers are thrown outward by centrifugal force and wedge themselves between the pressure plate and the cover...this increases the clutch's holding grip as the rpm/power increases.

Seems like good engineering. Was it effective?
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

John_Kunkel


Sometimes too effective; the only downside to centrifugal rollers is they increase the pedal pressure when high-RPM shifting, the more rollers the stiffer the pedal. Generally speaking, the factory 6-roller pressure plates aren't that bad when shifted at 6,000 rpm or less.
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Sublime/Sixpack

Quote from: John_Kunkel on December 22, 2016, 04:34:30 PM

Generally speaking, the factory 6-roller pressure plates aren't that bad when shifted at 6,000 rpm or less.

This makes me wonder which cars came with roller pressure plates from the factory?
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

John_Kunkel


Even /6 pressure plates had rollers.
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Sublime/Sixpack

I've never paid all that much attention to the actual mechanics of the pressure plates that I've removed or the new ones I installed. But the mention of centrifugal rollers piqued my curiosity. I checked the two spare three fingered pressure plates I still have and they are of a three pivot pin set up. Not centrifugal. I'd like to see one of the centrifugal set ups close up.
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

John_Kunkel

Long-style pressure plates (machined fingers) rarely have centrifugal assist rollers but the Borg & Beck (stamped fingers) usually do but aftermarket B&B plates often depend on very high spring pressure alone, especially when shifting at high RPM.
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