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Keep the Six Pack or no?

Started by Troy, December 14, 2015, 02:54:00 PM

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b5blue

  I did find crud in my bowls after the car sat for like a year while I worked on the Chargers body. It had been run a bit here and there but not for long and not often. Lacquer thinner was the only thing I found that really cut through it, carb. cleaner did little. (?) I drained the fuel and switched to non ethanol premium but that changed my tuning settings some. Even non ethanol fuel is different that our old style gas. I recall the rubber tips on the float needles were dented, they had deformed to the needle seats. It explained my wandering bowl fuel height. I'd run across some jabber on Moparts about repop 6BBL metering plates not being as good as the originals, mine were vintage 69 units so I don't know what that was about.
  I do agree with Ron 100% about ignition, weak spark can load the plugs and raise hell. Low ALT output at idle can starve the coil and give crappy idle that clears up with full voltage at higher RPMs. Put a meter on the coil at idle and see what is there.   :scratchchin:

Tom Q

I am posting a response to defend the honor of the six pak. Threads like this are why the six pak gets an undeserved bad reputation. I put 100,000 miles on a six pak using the same carbs over 30+ years and ran 22 years of laps on the road course with oh wow! performance. I did suffer a few problems with it in the early years but once the correct parts were used and the tune up was properly done it was trouble free year after year after year.  I used all kinds of fuel and even one year forgot to fill the tank but it did not affect the carbs. The carbs sat over at least 5 different engines. PS: A real fuel filter is required.

Troy - I will e mail you the tuning guide and you need to use non-ethanol fuel for best results. It's too big to post here. If you don't use the tuning guide and your brain you will suffer the consequences of a poorly running car. Lot's of smart people contributed to the guide so please use it. If you don't you have no one to complain to but yourself -and that goes for everyone else that wants a six pak to run correctly.  I was not going to help but since you banned Tuffy this is the least I can do.  

Troy

Quote from: Tom Q on December 21, 2015, 06:12:45 PM
I am posting a response to defend the honor of the six pak. Threads like this are why the six pak gets an undeserved bad reputation. I put 100,000 miles on a six pak using the same carbs over 30+ years and ran 22 years of laps on the road course with oh wow! performance. I did suffer a few problems with it in the early years but once the correct parts were used and the tune up was properly done it was trouble free year after year after year.  I used all kinds of fuel and even one year forgot to fill the tank but it did not affect the carbs. The carbs sat over at least 5 different engines. PS: A real fuel filter is required.

Troy - I will e mail you the tuning guide and you need to use non-ethanol fuel for best results. It's too big to post here. If you don't use the tuning guide and your brain you will suffer the consequences of a poorly running car. Lot's of smart people contributed to the guide so please use it. If you don't you have no one to complain to but yourself -and that goes for everyone else that wants a six pak to run correctly.  I was not going to help but since you banned Tuffy this is the least I can do. 
Tom, I have read and followed the tuning guide several times. When it runs right it is awesome! The several times part is what I hate. Honestly, I just want a car that works when I want to enjoy it. If I have to open the hood and fool with it constantly then I end up driving a different car. There's a chance that I will yank the carbs and ensure nothing is clogging them up. Last time there was a bunch of brown crud in the bowls. I'm pretty sure this is whatever is left after all the gas boils out. Solve that problem and I bet a lot of other issues clear up as well.

No one near me sells straight gas any more - everything has some amount of ethanol. The only place that I know of (and I searched using all the internet tools) is a marina in Indiana 30 miles away but that's not a solution for anyone who drives as much as I do. Unless I buy some 50 gallon drums and store it myself but I have no place to put them. One of my engine builders once said "you'll have to mix some race gas in each tank" and I packed up all my parts and hauled them home. Clearly he didn't grasp the fact that I can rack up 400 miles in a weekend and I can't just buy race gas at every other gas station. Yes, I know that same gas will mess with a 4bbl - but my Mach 1 doesn't seem to have any issues running it. Neither did my previous 68 Charger R/T or my Barracuda.

Tuffy is banned solely because of Tuffy's behavior but somehow I'm the bad guy... :eyes:

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

c00nhunterjoe

Your 6 pack is junk, i suggest pulling it off and giving it to me and i will give you a brand new intake a 4 barrel for yours. :2thumbs:

cdr

I have been using 1/2 of what they say with this product & it has helped a lot. my wife got me some from her work, I was very skeptical but it works

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Dans 68

If you are done fiddling with the 6-pak, then switch it out and run the 4-bbl. You will be a lot happier.  :2thumbs:

Dan
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Ghoste

I don't think I agree with that Dan.  :icon_smile_big: