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Aluminum driveshaft rwhp limit

Started by RECHRGD, March 24, 2014, 05:11:18 PM

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RECHRGD

When you see that a maximum of 500hp is recommended for a 3" diameter driveshaft, are they referring to rwhp or crank hp?
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Cooter

I assume the RWHP thing didn't become popular till a few years ago, so they most likely are talking flywheel HP.
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RECHRGD

That's what I thought.  Then on other forums there are guys bragging that they run them with over 600rwhp and slicks with no problems.  I'm not quite at 500 flywheel hp and don't run slicks, so should be fine for me either way.  Just would like more of a cushion...
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BSB67

Quote from: RECHRGD on March 24, 2014, 05:21:34 PM
That's what I thought.  Then on other forums there are guys bragging that they run them with over 600rwhp and slicks with no problems.  I'm not quite at 500 flywheel hp and don't run slicks, so should be fine for me either way.  Just would like more of a cushion...

It is a gross simplification to assume that all aluminum drive shafts are the same.  Not all aluminum is created equal.  Not all aluminum drive shafts are created equal.

With that said, I think that it is unlikely that a guy is staking his business reputation on the line for his "500 hp" driveshaft that fails at 510.  :Twocents:

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

RECHRGD

Quote from: BSB67 on March 24, 2014, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: RECHRGD on March 24, 2014, 05:21:34 PM
That's what I thought.  Then on other forums there are guys bragging that they run them with over 600rwhp and slicks with no problems.  I'm not quite at 500 flywheel hp and don't run slicks, so should be fine for me either way.  Just would like more of a cushion...

It is a gross simplification to assume that all aluminum drive shafts are the same.  Not all aluminum is created equal.  Not all aluminum drive shafts are created equal.

With that said, I think that it is unlikely that a guy is staking his business reputation on the line for his "500 hp" driveshaft that fails at 510.  :Twocents:


Agreed.  There is nobody local here that builds them.  I found a local company that has an outlet in SLC Utah that builds them.  Ordered one and it should be here on Friday.  The local guys weren't very knowledgable on them.  The pricing was competitive, so we'll see.  Getting it mostly for my long going vibration issue anyway.....
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BSB67

If this is for the car in your pic,  I wouldn't worry about it.

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

RECHRGD

Quote from: BSB67 on March 24, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
If this is for the car in your pic,  I wouldn't worry about it.


So, my car looks underpowered and not worthy?   :shruggy: :lol: :lol:
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cudaken

Quote from: RECHRGD on March 24, 2014, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: BSB67 on March 24, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
If this is for the car in your pic,  I wouldn't worry about it.
So, my car looks underpowered and not worthy?   :shruggy: :lol: :lol:

  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

I was wondering that my self! LOL I think it was more because of the tire sizes and stock looking suspension. Or maybe BSB67 does not like Yellow!  :D
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BSB67

Quote from: RECHRGD on March 24, 2014, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: BSB67 on March 24, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
If this is for the car in your pic,  I wouldn't worry about it.


So, my car looks underpowered and not worthy?   :shruggy: :lol: :lol:

Did not mean to offend.  Probably could have chosen my words better.

Car looks great.  Runs very well too.  I like it when a guy takes his muscle cars to the track to see what it will really do.  And the reality is that most guys that have street/stock looking cars like yours wont run your numbers. Your car can run in the 12s easily by just tuning and playing with what you have for the most part.  My hat is off to you.

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

RECHRGD

Quote from: BSB67 on March 25, 2014, 05:32:16 AM
Quote from: RECHRGD on March 24, 2014, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: BSB67 on March 24, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
If this is for the car in your pic,  I wouldn't worry about it.


So, my car looks underpowered and not worthy?   :shruggy: :lol: :lol:

Did not mean to offend.  Probably could have chosen my words better.

Car looks great.  Runs very well too.  I like it when a guy takes his muscle cars to the track to see what it will really do.  And the reality is that most guys that have street/stock looking cars like yours wont run your numbers. Your car can run in the 12s easily by just tuning and playing with what you have for the most part.  My hat is off to you.


No offense taken, thanks.  Just ribbing you on your wording... :cheers:
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oldschool

I use an aluminum driveshaft in my 70 charger. I had it made here in town.  I use 1350 spicer u joints with it, never ever a problem. mine made 707 hp at the wheels.... :icon_smile_big:
1968 cuda formula S bb 4-sp                          1968 Charger R/T 500" 4-sp
1970 Charger 580" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

RECHRGD

Quote from: oldschool on March 25, 2014, 11:30:49 AM
I use an aluminum driveshaft in my 70 charger. I had it made here in town.  I use 1350 spicer u joints with it, never ever a problem. mine made 707 hp at the wheels.... :icon_smile_big:


Well then, I guess I'll have no worries.   :2thumbs:
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