News:

It appears that the upgrade forces a login and many, many of you have forgotten your passwords and didn't set up any reminders. Contact me directly through helpmelogin@dodgecharger.com and I'll help sort it out.

Main Menu

ethanol build up...

Started by 1974dodgecharger, December 25, 2014, 05:49:54 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

1974dodgecharger

Does ethanol build up that quick in our carb enginez? I drove roughly 6k miles on charger and looked qt float bowls and I have white crustys in there already.  I drive this car alot and fill her up minimal 1x per week. Its not like my gas sits there.....

kanadanmajava

I was planning to use E85 in mine so I have been thinking about possible problems with ethanol use. I have just bought a Charger and currently it doesn't have a fuel tank at all (its not in running order otherwise either). I was hesitating if I should buy a new replacement tank or install a low profile Jaz fuel cell to hang under the trunk (I don't want it inside the trunk).

I noticed that AMD is selling a tank for 68-70 (Spectra Steel OE Replacement Fuel Tank) but there's a mentioning:

"For use with gasoline containing up to 20% ethanol (E20) and diesel containing up to 5% biodiesel (B5)"

So the new replacement tank seem to be incompatible with E85.

Could the white stuff in your carburetor be some removed zinc residues from the tank? I would think that if the new tank can withstand 20% of ethanol it wouldn't immediately be destroyed with higher concentration.

b5blue

Ethanol absorbs water and water can corrode. I'm looking into stabilizers. (?)   

JR

70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

moparnation74

I use Starbrite it is made by Startron.  The absolute best enzyme fuel treatment available.  Marine stores carry it and autzone carries it as well. 

b5blue

AHHHH........ethanol absorbs the H2O and then alcohol evaporates from the bowl leaving nasty corrosive sludge to build up. Looks like my planned tank and lines replacement may be stainless steel.  :yesnod:

moparnation74

The more air space in your system the more water is absorbed.  Makes for a corrosive environment along with H2O in your fuel.  Thats is why for long term storage you want to fill the tank.  You can replace tank lines etc. all day long. It is prudent to use a good stabilizer (Starbrite) to inhibit that phase separation in an effort to limit H2O and corrosiveness in your fuel.  H2O does not compress well.

For all of my resto's I always use stainless for fuel and brakes.  In reality it is cheap insurance for your ride.


b5blue

A station near me has non ethanol, for now that's the first thing to do.  :2thumbs: 

moparnation74

Quote from: b5blue on December 25, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
A station near me has non ethanol, for now that's the first thing to do.  :2thumbs: 
No question on that I wish we had the same access!  Add a little marvel mystery oil to that and your done.

c00nhunterjoe

5 years of regular pump gas ethanol blended fuels.




b5blue

Nice big spacer is working!  :2thumbs:

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: b5blue on December 25, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Nice big spacer is working!  :2thumbs:

I have a 1" phenolic spacer on mine, prevents hot start issues. Been on the car long before ethanol came into play. Carb stays cool to the touch even on 100° summer days

moparnation74

Carb looks nice and clean for 5yrs.

Based on your pictures it is obvious (carb, engine bay) you drive your ride a lot :2thumbs:




c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: moparnation74 on December 25, 2014, 02:02:18 PM
Carb looks nice and clean for 5yrs.

Based on your pictures it is obvious (carb, engine bay) you drive your ride a lot :2thumbs:






She gets driven.... ALOT!!!! and i am very hard on it. I would cringe at the thought of how much fuel goes through that engine annually..... lol.

moparnation74

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 25, 2014, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: moparnation74 on December 25, 2014, 02:02:18 PM
Carb looks nice and clean for 5yrs.

Based on your pictures it is obvious (carb, engine bay) you drive your ride a lot :2thumbs:






She gets driven.... ALOT!!!! and i am very hard on it. I would cringe at the thought of how much fuel goes through that engine annually..... lol.
:smilielol: Love it! 

b5blue

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 25, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: b5blue on December 25, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Nice big spacer is working!  :2thumbs:

I have a 1" phenolic spacer on mine, prevents hot start issues. Been on the car long before ethanol came into play. Carb stays cool to the touch even on 100° summer days

What air cleaner fits with that?  :scratchchin:

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: b5blue on December 25, 2014, 02:39:12 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 25, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: b5blue on December 25, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Nice big spacer is working!  :2thumbs:

I have a 1" phenolic spacer on mine, prevents hot start issues. Been on the car long before ethanol came into play. Carb stays cool to the touch even on 100° summer days

What air cleaner fits with that?  :scratchchin:

This one... lol. 2" element with the filter lid. Torker 383 intake. All clears stock hood. I cant recall if it is a drop base on not. Im pretty sure it isnt.




b5blue


1974dodgecharger

Alright then i must seriously must buy ethanol fighter for each fill up i take it.

bull

I run non ethanol 90% of the time to avoid such issues. Hopefully you've got a station in your area that carry it.

http://www.buyrealgas.com/
http://www.pure-gas.org/

ionracer24

Seafoam or 1 quart of VP ever 3 or 4 tank fulls
Real race cars have three pedals......