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Invester Car Market Worldwide

Started by ws23rt, September 09, 2013, 10:58:40 PM

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ws23rt

I'm interested in how our cars are doing on the world market.  Overseas in particular.
These cars have gone in and out of favor to investors as the world economy changes but what is the situation currently?

Are the prices higher overseas above the shipping costs?  And if so is it that investors or the hobby folk spend more than we do?

I have my own instinct about this but am looking to get other opinions.

The question comes from a persistent marketer that wants to help me sell my car and says I can get nearly twice the selling price overseas.
I know a sales pitch when I hear one so I am looking for the rest of the story :yesnod:




MaxE48

I live in Australia, and bought a 1970 Dodge Charger RT clone from North Carolina late 2011 for $25k. The car is currently valued at $50k here. It cost me about $5k in shipping and taxes. Hope that helps.

six-tee-nine

Classic muclecars do very well over here in Europe.

If you restore one yourself you need to consider the fact that shipping of the parts will cost us the double or triple then what it costs you guys. I have to pay 21% tax fees on goods + total shipping cost to import stuff from the USA. In Germany that will be around 19% I think.

People interested in muscle cars that are not aknowledged to travel and ship it yourself need to buy from dealers in classic American cars. Not an issue but you pay top dollar.

I saw an add for a 68 Charger in nice condition lately, 383 auto nothing fancy, nice condition but not top rotisserie restored or something like that, priced at € 38000. Admitted that that is steep even over here, but a nice restored R/T will go around that amount all the time.
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


ws23rt

Thanks for the input guys
The marketer that is pushing me says that my C500 that I think is a 45K car here would bring 85K in Europe.
And they would take care of shipping--taxes--transaction--etc.  So he tells me the 85K would be to me.

It just seems wrong since they could find and buy the car for 45k here and keep the difference them selves :shruggy:
Like I said it sounds kinda fishy :scratchchin:

six-tee-nine

Quote from: ws23rt on September 10, 2013, 07:11:48 AM
Thanks for the input guys
The marketer that is pushing me says that my C500 that I think is a 45K car here would bring 85K in Europe.
And they would take care of shipping--taxes--transaction--etc.  So he tells me the 85K would be to me.

It just seems wrong since they could find and buy the car for 45k here and keep the difference them selves :shruggy:
Like I said it sounds kinda fishy :scratchchin:

Yes probably, but the market is smaller. Put that C500 next to any mustang fastback at a carshow over here and still everyone drools over those mustangs. Very few people are into vintage american cars over here. Alot of Vintage american muscle freaks are worse than the ones you have in the US. They know Chevy and they know Ford....If you tell em Mopar they say hmmm. If you're lucky they say AAAAHHHH when you say HEMI...

I dont see anyone selling your car over here for 85 and hand it over to you...
Most guys that flip these cars buy them in the US for the same price your neighbour does. Then they ship it, import it, pay tax on it and resell them for 10 grand more.
Yes it works.

Look at these :

I know you cant read Dutch but you see the pictures and can read the price in Euro's

http://www.california-import.com/go.to/modix/3,1,rx73amc/voertuigen_zoeken.html
http://www.california-import.com/go.to/modix/3,1,t47dlr9/voertuigen_zoeken.html

To "translate" : the plum crazy '70 is $45700 ish
The 68 General is $47700 ish

You guys will probably say thats crazy money.....
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


ws23rt

Quote from: six-tee-nine on September 10, 2013, 02:26:19 PM
Quote from: ws23rt on September 10, 2013, 07:11:48 AM
Thanks for the input guys
The marketer that is pushing me says that my C500 that I think is a 45K car here would bring 85K in Europe.
And they would take care of shipping--taxes--transaction--etc.  So he tells me the 85K would be to me.

It just seems wrong since they could find and buy the car for 45k here and keep the difference them selves :shruggy:
Like I said it sounds kinda fishy :scratchchin:

Yes probably, but the market is smaller. Put that C500 next to any mustang fastback at a carshow over here and still everyone drools over those mustangs. Very few people are into vintage american cars over here. Alot of Vintage american muscle freaks are worse than the ones you have in the US. They know Chevy and they know Ford....If you tell em Mopar they say hmmm. If you're lucky they say AAAAHHHH when you say HEMI...

I dont see anyone selling your car over here for 85 and hand it over to you...
Most guys that flip these cars buy them in the US for the same price your neighbour does. Then they ship it, import it, pay tax on it and resell them for 10 grand more.
Yes it works.

Look at these :

I know you cant read Dutch but you see the pictures and can read the price in Euro's

http://www.california-import.com/go.to/modix/3,1,rx73amc/voertuigen_zoeken.html
http://www.california-import.com/go.to/modix/3,1,t47dlr9/voertuigen_zoeken.html

To "translate" : the plum crazy '70 is $45700 ish
The 68 General is $47700 ish

You guys will probably say thats crazy money.....


Some over here may think that's crazy money but not far off the mark.  Assuming the cars are very nice (like new) and well restored.
I appreciate your input on what the market is like over there.  And it is especially interesting that it kinda follows what it is like here.
In that chevy and ford are larger.  They always have been.

The marketer that spins a tale with me says they have over 900 dealers world wide and there is a great thirst for american cars of all kinds.
And I need to translate my advertisement to sell into 37 languages.

I have to smile at that---so 25 dealers per country/language ?   And how many of those country's even have a collector car market

You helped justify my instinct.  :eek2:

69finder

Tell him to wire you the money first which should be no issue if he's a genuine buyer.