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Started by charger Downunder, March 30, 2013, 05:57:18 AM

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charger Downunder

Anyone have any pics of the engine compartment with there set up from firewall forward. My car had ac originally and am looking at putting it back on i have all the inside cabin stuff and i want to use the sanden compressor plus i am running a six pack set up now.
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ODZKing

Not mine (yet) but a few I have taken at shows of the C-A-A set up on 3rd gens.
PM me your e-mail and I'll send them along.


charger496

   There's pictures of six pack cars with ac installed on their website. Some things to consider are that although they say you'll only see a small increase in engine temp, most people (who have posted here) see a 20-30 degree difference. Mine went up 20 degrees even with a bigger radiator. This summer, my mission is to get that back under control, whatever the cost (reasonably). Otherwise, the kit works well. Don't listen to the AC shop if they tell you the pressures should be different than what CAA says. It will not work properly unless the pressure is as recommended.

bill440rt

I have one on my car, with a 6-pack. But, I'm also running a serpentine setup.
The compressor is mounted up top. Only had to carve the air cleaner base ever so slightly.
Works very well, ice cold A/C. Can't really say I saw an increase in engine temps, because that's how it was built from scratch. But, the car doesn't overheat or run very hot at all.
CAA does make brackets & pulleys to add it to a stock pulley system. Check out their website.  :yesnod:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

charger496

   Bill, it's good to hear that heat isn't an issue for you with your air setup. What's your engine combo? Are you running a stock radiator, water pump and housing, fan clutch? Since you have and use your air, I assume temps outside are hot? I ask because I need to get my temps down. My plan now is to get rid of my flex fan and put in a bigger fan and fan clutch, a front spoiler to direct a little more air to the radiator at highway speeds (probably more for looks), and an extra bottle of water wetter. I don't want to see 200 degrees even in Atlanta traffic in August.

bill440rt

The car & engine is modified.
Engine is 60-over, Eddy heads, Lunati Voodoo 60303 cam, ProMax 6-pack with their MaxPak option (tunable outboards).
Rad is a 26" Griffin 2-row aluminum job, with a trans cooler below the rad & an external one also. Mancini water pump housing and an Eddy aluminum pump. Thermostat is a 180* Mr.Gasket.
Fan is a Flex-a-Lite dual electric puller fan (engine side).
I've run the car in 100*+ weather with the A/C on & it still did not run very hot.

A/C install is here:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,43059.0.html

Dash vent mods are here:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,87688.0.html

Build thread with more engine pics is here:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,64641.0.html

Make sure your existing cooling system is working properly.

:cheers:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

charger496

   My cooling system should be good, once I upgrade the fan. I ran this motor for a couple years before installing AC and 190 was about the hottest it ever got. It had a stock replacement rad, flex fan, high volume water pump. Now, with AC, the rad is re-cored with 3 bigger rows, aluminum 440 source housing, same water pump from before, same big aux trans cooler (like yours, Bill). As for the 440 source housing, mine isn't one of the restrictive passage castings that people are having problems with. I checked and rechecked before installing. I don't have an OD trans, which would help on the freeway. Someday, though.
   Bill, I also have an MSD billet distributor without vac advance. Are you running about 15 degrees initial and 35 total? We both have the same Voodoo '303' cam, too. I asked Lunati about valvetrain noise at 3000 rpm cruising, and they blamed the aggressive ramp pattern. It's not giving me any problems other than noise. I have 12 inches of vacuum at idle. Similar experience for you?

bill440rt

Quote from: charger496 on March 31, 2013, 01:35:00 PM
   My cooling system should be good, once I upgrade the fan. I ran this motor for a couple years before installing AC and 190 was about the hottest it ever got. It had a stock replacement rad, flex fan, high volume water pump. Now, with AC, the rad is re-cored with 3 bigger rows, aluminum 440 source housing, same water pump from before, same big aux trans cooler (like yours, Bill). As for the 440 source housing, mine isn't one of the restrictive passage castings that people are having problems with. I checked and rechecked before installing. I don't have an OD trans, which would help on the freeway. Someday, though.
   Bill, I also have an MSD billet distributor without vac advance. Are you running about 15 degrees initial and 35 total? We both have the same Voodoo '303' cam, too. I asked Lunati about valvetrain noise at 3000 rpm cruising, and they blamed the aggressive ramp pattern. It's not giving me any problems other than noise. I have 12 inches of vacuum at idle. Similar experience for you?

Sounds like we have a very similar combo.
Yeah, my timing curve is about the same. To be honest, I never really checked the vacuum levels, but the only thing running off vacuum is the carbs and the headlight doors. I don't notice any lag with either. I don't notice any valvetrain noise, either.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce