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Title: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 06, 2011, 01:43:15 PM
Sorry, I meant to put this in Interior. Anyway, what is the correct rear view mirror for an early 68 Charger? I think it's the top one with the silver metal day/night lever (which I bought at a swap meet) but I think the car had the black plastic day/night lever style in it when I bought it.

Also, do I have the correct base?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: 68 RT on April 06, 2011, 02:03:34 PM
Top mirror is correct, the base is for 70 and up.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: bull on April 06, 2011, 02:06:49 PM
Crap! That's what I was starting to think about that base. :brickwall: I doubt I'll find just a correct base for it.

Is the other mirror for a 1970 and up too?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: BananaDan on April 06, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
My 70 mirror and base look like the top one you have there.

Pics:
http://1970chargerregistry.com/mboard/index.php?topic=179.msg1978#msg1978

Dan
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: BananaDan on April 06, 2011, 02:50:32 PM
Also, this thread mentions that 68 and early 69 base/stems should be squarish.  I've never seen one, no pics.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,79716.0.html
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: bull on April 06, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
I think it's this Star Trek looking thing.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: charger490 on April 06, 2011, 03:48:25 PM
bull i have the last one you showed pm me
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: UFO on April 06, 2011, 06:15:42 PM
All of the '69's(4) that I had used the round mirror stem.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 06, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
My '69 (and most that I have seen personally) have the squarish one....

Sorry dont have any full on pics... ;)


Even the XP Hemi has it  ;)
http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/press/hemiXP?full=1
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: bull on April 06, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 06, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
My '69 (and most that I have seen personally) have the squarish one....

Sorry dont have any full on pics... ;)


Even the XP Hemi has it  ;)
http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/press/hemiXP?full=1

So does that last pic I posted look like what you have Chris?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: A383Wing on April 06, 2011, 10:06:16 PM
I think bull's top mirror pic is also correct for 67 chargers as well...
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: tan top on April 07, 2011, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: bull on April 06, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
I think it's this Star Trek looking thing.

thats what mine is like !  69   with an SPD of 22nd of november 68 !!  although can't remember that groove down the post though !!   will have to check  :scratchchin: :yesnod:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: charger490 on April 07, 2011, 08:40:20 AM
this is the mirror i have
18720-2999021-cav2
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: tan top on April 07, 2011, 09:45:23 AM
yep just checked  mine is the same  :yesnod:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: bull on April 07, 2011, 11:42:32 AM
Cool. One more mystery solved. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 13, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
Well now. I'm experiencing a new and interesting dilemma with this mirror thing. As best I can tell it seems the base that was in my car already is correct but the stem and mirror were wrong. I bought a base and stem from charger490 but the base bolt pattern is way off on that back hole. But I think I can use his stem in my old base and pull this off. :shruggy: :scratchchin: Maybe...

Can anyone with an early 68 charger post some mirror pics for me?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: bull on April 13, 2011, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: tan top on April 07, 2011, 09:45:23 AM
yep just checked  mine is the same  :yesnod:

The same as which? You mean it's got the groove?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: tan top on April 13, 2011, 03:03:30 PM
Quote from: charger490 on April 07, 2011, 08:40:20 AM
this is the mirror i have
18720-2999021-cav2

yep  same as charger490 s picture  :yesnod:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 13, 2011, 05:51:05 PM
Sorry Curtis, missed this one....yes my mirror looks like the last pic you posted...Same as charger490's
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 13, 2011, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 13, 2011, 05:51:05 PM
Sorry Curtis, missed this one....yes my mirror looks like the last pic you posted...Same as charger490's

Actually, if you look real close it isn't the same. At least not the base. The stem part of the base and mirror look the same but if you compare his base to yours they are different. Of course the side he's got the picture of up there is hard to see on a car because it's mounted toward the windshield but it's quite a bit deeper than yours.

Yours is like the one on the right below with the short groove above the rear mounting hole. Same bolt pattern as mine where the two front ones match but the single rear mounting hole is nearly 1/2" off.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: 1BAD68 on April 13, 2011, 07:35:55 PM
This one is in mine September 1967 build date
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 13, 2011, 08:38:53 PM
Cool! We haven't seen that style of stem yet. :lol: :rotz: :brickwall: :P :'(
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 13, 2011, 08:52:51 PM
Yes you are correct I see it now....
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 13, 2011, 11:00:06 PM
 :lol: That arm is different yet. :icon_smile_blackeye: I've seen several examples of that one though, usually on Ebay. Your car is 13 days older than mine so if the mirror is original to yours that's probably what mine would have had.

Crap! Well, at least I've got the right base. Now I have to decide what I'm going to do for a stem/arm/whatever.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: elacruze on April 13, 2011, 11:20:09 PM
I have both the short and long square arm mirrors, the short one came in the '68 R/T and the long one (like last photo) came in the '68 318 A/C car, which had a '70 interior. Both had the narrow base mount. The R/T mirror head has the grooves, don't recall about the other.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 11:25:10 PM
Curtis, If you want I will ask the previous owner if he ever changed it out. He got the car in '88.

Dan
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 14, 2011, 12:12:27 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 11:25:10 PM
Curtis, If you want I will ask the previous owner if he ever changed it out. He got the car in '88.

Dan

If you don't mind. :2thumbs: Thanks.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: westcoastdodge on April 15, 2011, 04:44:13 PM
my december '67 build,think its the original :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 16, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
So both of these mirror arms are supposedly from December 67 Chargers? :RantExplode: Ok, I'm just going to use the one I've got. :P

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79720.0;attach=149147)
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79720.0;attach=149039)
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Dans 68 on April 16, 2011, 06:02:08 PM
Curtis,

My rear view mirror is original to the car, as far as the last owner knows.

Dan
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 16, 2011, 11:54:45 PM
Thanks for checking, Dan. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: tan top on April 17, 2011, 04:09:45 AM

Quote from: bull on April 16, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
So both of these mirror arms are supposedly from December 67 Chargers? :RantExplode: Ok, I'm just going to use the one I've got. :P

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79720.0;attach=149147)
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79720.0;attach=149039)

:scratchchin: perhaps it was  down to what assembly plant the car was built at !! :scratchchin:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 17, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
 :scratchchin: Maybe. :shruggy: Do you guys know where your cars were built?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Dans 68 on April 17, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
Unless I'm missing something all early 1968 Chargers were built in Hamtramct, Michigan. St. Louis assembled Chargers were built in early '68, starting in March I believe. I have to believe that the assembly line just had bins of different supplier stalks/posts that the assembler's grabbed when needed.  :Twocents:

Dan
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 18, 2011, 09:38:05 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 17, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
I have to believe that the assembly line just had bins of different supplier stalks/posts that the assembler's grabbed when needed.  :Twocents:

Dan

That could be the case. :shruggy: I guess we can chalk this up to another odd, early 68 quirk.
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: SRT-68 on April 18, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 18, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: SRT-68 on April 18, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:

Huh? :o No head rests in 68?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68?
Post by: Rolling_Thunder on April 18, 2011, 09:30:42 PM
Quote from: charger490 on April 07, 2011, 08:40:20 AM
this is the mirror i have
18720-2999021-cav2

I have that mirror as well....     My car was built Aug 1967
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Troy on April 19, 2011, 08:28:06 AM
Quote from: bull on April 18, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: SRT-68 on April 18, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:

Huh? :o No head rests in 68?
They were optional in 68. My R/T has them.

Troy
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 19, 2011, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Troy on April 19, 2011, 08:28:06 AM
Quote from: bull on April 18, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: SRT-68 on April 18, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 13, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
Here are a few of my '68 with it's scheduled build date of 12-26-67.

Dan

This one looks correct because only the '68 had the longer stem. '69 and '70 stems are shorter because headrests were added to the seats. :Twocents:

Huh? :o No head rests in 68?
They were optional in 68. My R/T has them.

Troy

And optional in '69 up until 1/1/69 where they became mandatory :Twocents:
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 20, 2011, 01:07:35 AM
So, how about this headrest = short mirror arm/no head rest = long mrror arm theory?
Title: Re: Which rear view mirror is right for a 68? UPDATE
Post by: bull on April 30, 2011, 01:23:33 AM
Well, I used my old base and the arm I got from Don (charger490) and it turned out fairly well. I actually finished it about a week ago but forgot to post pics. The hard part was finding a decent paint match because most silvers are just too metallic. And the base I have is pretty dinged up but it will work. It looks like the ball must have gotten loose in the past and some dummy thought peening it would tighten it up. :rotz: Anyway, I media blasted the arm and base and then primed/painted them. The ball, plate and fasteners were all plated with clear zinc and I think he had a helluva time with the ball because (he claims) it's stainless. Ooops. I didn't know. :shruggy: The mirror itself is just a good original I found at a swap meet that cost me $10-$15 IIRC.