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Title: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on February 15, 2011, 06:22:16 PM
I have a 69 Charger with a 440 (from a 68 imperial).  It has the Mopar Electronic conversion kit.  I had the old mechanical regulator on it.  Now I have an electronic one but it's a race only and puts out little over 13 volts.

Lets say I want to goto the autoparts store and want something NOW!  What application do I ask for that will give me the proper regulator.  I have a 2 pronged ballast resistor.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Ghoste on February 15, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
If you have the wiring for the elctronic regulator you could ask for about any street application.  Tell them it's for a 73 Charger with a 440.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: A383Wing on February 16, 2011, 12:53:57 AM
they make an OE style regulator for the earlier pre-70 cars that looks stock but is electronic. easiest way to tell is look at back side..if no resistors on bottom of regulator, it's the electronic chip style but will bolt up to stock location & wiring
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on February 16, 2011, 07:29:51 AM
Thanks Ghoste and A383Wing.  That was going to be my next question;  wiring.  So looks like I might as well get the OE style that hooks up like the old one.  I'm really not into cutting splicing and soldering.   Just not that confident in ability.  Maybe if it's absolutely obvious what to do, anyhow, probably easiest to get the look a like?
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Ghoste on February 16, 2011, 07:34:06 AM
By far the easiest to get that one.  I misunderstood your post to mean that you were already wired for the new style.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: ODZKing on February 16, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
A bit pricey but built like a tank
http://www.4secondsflat.com/electricalsystems.html
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on March 02, 2011, 06:41:28 PM
Yeah I know I`m moving slow here.

Is the VR2 (square shaped one that`s $28.00) built as good as the VR1 for $75

My car isnt a show winner.  But I suppose it never would be if i keep compromising
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on March 02, 2011, 06:55:21 PM
Is it possible to buy this at a local autoparts store?
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: A383Wing on March 02, 2011, 08:45:53 PM
yes...and when you have it in yer hand...turn it over and look at the underside...if there are 2 resistors there, give it back to them..you don't want that one...it's the "points" style...

If there is nothing on the back and it weighs almost nothing...that's the electronic style
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on March 03, 2011, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on March 02, 2011, 08:45:53 PM
yes...and when you have it in yer hand...turn it over and look at the underside...if there are 2 resistors there, give it back to them..you don't want that one...it's the "points" style...

If there is nothing on the back and it weighs almost nothing...that's the electronic style

Yes I'm moving slow...............or yes I can get it from a regular parts store?   I know I'm moving slow.  It's cold here, and I'm adhd!
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: gtx6970 on March 03, 2011, 08:02:38 PM
These work very well with original points or mopars electronic ignition conversions.

Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: RDR838 on March 04, 2011, 04:44:54 AM
This is the Wells #706
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9269/28kgrhqeokkme0uwvuzv3bn.jpg)
Have it in my Coronet.

The black one pictured above will go in the Charger tomorrow, since I just killed two points style regulators with my new Powermaster 7018 50 AMP Alternator. I thought 50 Amps wouldn't be that bad but the regulators went up in smoke.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: 1969chargerrtse on March 06, 2011, 06:42:56 AM
Quote from: ODZKing on February 16, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
A bit pricey but built like a tank
http://www.4secondsflat.com/electricalsystems.html
Wow, I'd pay 75.00 all day long.  I'm gonna call and see if they have any left.  I kept blowing my mechanical regs ever 2 months.  TuffCat sold me one of those but said you can't get them anymore.  It's been two years and works great but I want a spare.  Great post.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Chargerrtforme on March 07, 2011, 01:02:27 PM
Quote from: ODZKing on February 16, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
A bit pricey but built like a tank
http://www.4secondsflat.com/electricalsystems.html
They are now being re made by the guys nephew. They are in stock and was only 29.00 plus 8.00 shipping. Just grabbed me a spare. Thanks for the link. VR1 model.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: A383Wing on March 11, 2011, 12:23:09 AM
here is one on ebay...good price...can also be purchased at AutoZone

wells #VR-706


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WELLS-VR706-Voltage-Regulator-/140518217788?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b789d83c
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Brass on March 11, 2011, 01:42:42 AM
How do you like the Wells VR-706?  Will they work as well as the VR1 or VR2? 
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 17, 2011, 02:24:32 PM
Allright guys I need some help.  Finally I have time to look at the car and I'm going to do something about it.  If the wells VR706 isn't readily available here in town.  I'm taking them a picture (printout from the ebay link posted here) so the guy can look for me.  Then I'm going to search the posts on this subject, again, because if I can't get that part then I recall something to do with getting the wiring for the voltage regulator and having to wire up a 4 pronged ballast resistor?

Anyone?  By Jezu**** I'm going to do something about it now.  Thanks for you patients.  I hate having to ask for help again when I haven't really done much of anything.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 17, 2011, 02:51:02 PM
Allright the guy at Benson's auto parts found the VR 706 for me and I'll have it in thaaa mornin.  Only draw back is it's 50bucks.  But ordering it on Ebay will probably take 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: ODZKing on June 17, 2011, 10:17:51 PM
The one from FBO is $29.00 now.  Prolly have it in a day or two.
http://www.4secondsflat.com/regulator_tech.html
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 17, 2011, 10:45:19 PM
THANKS  and crap.  Oh I should say I'm in Ontario Canada.  So a day or 2 might be optimistic.  Is this an item I should keep a spare of?

Any other info on this subject?
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: A383Wing on June 17, 2011, 10:53:42 PM
I have a new spare here.....as with any electrical part...it may fail eventually....and how long will it take you to get another if it does fail?

might be worth it to get 2 at the same time....save on shipping as well
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: ODZKing on June 17, 2011, 11:08:41 PM
Quote from: Bobs69 on June 17, 2011, 10:45:19 PM
THANKS  and crap.  Oh I should say I'm in Ontario Canada.  So a day or 2 might be optimistic.  Is this an item I should keep a spare of?

Any other info on this subject?
:iagree: with Bryan.  It's an electrical part but if you get 2 AND keep the spare in the trunk, it will last forever (LOL!).
I bought a second and that is where mine is.  Got mine from them in 2004.  Works great still.

BTW, http://www.davesmopar.com/ is the FBO dealer in Canada.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 18, 2011, 12:58:35 PM
Thanks guys.  Well they didn't get my part in.  The lakey behind the counter was less then helpfull.  Hopefully monday.  Haven't decided yet but I may take a trip accros the pond to Advanced auto.  And thanks for the Canadian site.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 25, 2011, 04:00:39 PM
Well guys I got my new VR 706 from the local place.  It doesn't look like the one pictures but, it has the correct hook ups and it is the part number.  So what the heck.  It's black and plastic.  I'll post a pictures later.

Car doesn't want to start now.  I figure it's the fuel pump.  My wife picked it up for me today and when I'm not working I'll put it on and see what happens.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 25, 2011, 08:58:43 PM
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx102/bobs69/VR706fromPartsSource.jpg
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 25, 2011, 08:59:36 PM
(http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx102/bobs69/VR706fromPartsSource.jpg)
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: flyboyedwards on June 26, 2011, 09:56:25 PM
I am getting ready to put my electronic ignition in, and I bought one of these electronic regulators. I am wondering, do you have to do anything with the ballast resistor near the old points style regulator? I have the MP electronic conversion kit, and it has a new resistor, is that where it goes, or is that on specifically for the VR? Thanks for the  help!!!!   :popcrn:
Jason.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Ghoste on June 26, 2011, 10:02:26 PM
The ballast resistor is a part of the ignition system and the voltage regulator is part of the charging circuit.  Obviously they interact with differnt parts of the electrical system but that is a simple way to look at those two parts.  So to answer your question, the resistor in your conversion kit is the one to use.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Bobs69 on June 28, 2011, 03:07:07 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on June 26, 2011, 10:02:26 PM
The ballast resistor is a part of the ignition system and the voltage regulator is part of the charging circuit.  Obviously they interact with differnt parts of the electrical system but that is a simple way to look at those two parts.  So to answer your question, the resistor in your conversion kit is the one to use.


Hmm been so long since mine has been changed, what's the value of the ballast resistor.  Or should I say do you have a part number.???  Thanks.

And while you're at it how about coming over here and putting it on for me.   Seriously tho thanks in advance for any help you can give.  And for what  you've done already.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: 440 on June 29, 2011, 04:37:39 AM
Just picked up the FBO VR-1 unit for $29... Thanks for the info...

I wasn't aware you couldn't run a points style regulator with Mopars electronic ignition, probably explains why my regulator failed in the first place and luckily it didn't wipe out the ECU, however, it took the gauges out instead by killing the instrument regulator.

I called FBO to order the regulator and was totally impressed with Don, his knowledge and helpfulness was absolutely exceptional and outstanding. Hopefully they bring back the A688 as an option to the "better" HR688 box.
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: ODZKing on June 29, 2011, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: 440 on June 29, 2011, 04:37:39 AM
Just picked up the FBO VR-1 unit for $29... Thanks for the info...

I wasn't aware you couldn't run a points style regulator with Mopars electronic ignition, probably explains why my regulator failed in the first place and luckily it didn't wipe out the ECU, however, it took the gauges out instead by killing the instrument regulator.

I called FBO to order the regulator and was totally impressed with Don, his knowledge and helpfulness was absolutely exceptional and outstanding. Hopefully they bring back the A688 as an option to the "better" HR688 box.
:yesnod:
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: 440 on June 29, 2011, 07:00:39 PM
Got an email back from Don and A688's are gone forever  :'(
Title: Re: Voltage Regulator
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on June 30, 2011, 12:16:56 AM
Quote from: 440 on June 29, 2011, 07:00:39 PM
Got an email back from Don and A688's are gone forever  :'(

yeap

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