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Mopar Garage => Engine, Transmission, Rearend, & Exhaust => Topic started by: wayfast1500 on October 15, 2009, 11:17:43 PM

Title: New magnum 360
Post by: wayfast1500 on October 15, 2009, 11:17:43 PM
What are the differences between the l.a block 360 and a newer magnum 360?  I have a magnum from a 98 ram I'd like to drop in my 73 but I do not know where to find a intake for a carb setup or the correct oil pump/pan ect.  When I was into chevys you could bolt a carb intake onto tpi heads if you elongate the bolt holes since the only difference was the bolt angle, does this hold true for the mopar?
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: Rolling_Thunder on October 15, 2009, 11:42:01 PM
Edelbrock makes an intake for the Magnum engine with a carb...      The LA intakes are at an angle...   magnum bolts are verticle

Things that will give you problems

- drive accessories are odd serpentine set up - may not fit your chassis
- No fuel pump eccentric for mechanical fuel pump...    must run electric
- oil pan and pickup are same as an LA block


Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: Troy on October 16, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
Manicini makes a fuel pump eccentric that bolts on to the front of the cam. You must use the old style timing chain cover and accessories. There is a "knock off" of the Edelbrock intake if you're looking for something cheaper.

Troy
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: wayfast1500 on October 16, 2009, 06:29:18 PM
Who makes that knock off intake? Any cam would bolt into this block right? Same with the timing chain?
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: Troy on October 16, 2009, 07:07:02 PM
Nope, (I believe) all Magnums are roller cams which can get pricey. That's not a bad thing though! There are some places (like Hughes? and KRC Performance) that will regrind the original to different specs for about half the cost.

There is a large aftermarket for the trucks these engines came out of. The only thing that really sucks is Mopar price gouging on valve springs and retainers. I found a way around that...

The intake is made by Crosswinds.

Troy
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: wayfast1500 on October 16, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Well as long as I change the lifter I could run a voodoo right?
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: Rolling_Thunder on October 17, 2009, 02:57:01 AM
nope - pushrods would need to be changed as rollers are taller than flats...   plus the magnums oil up through the pushrods - the LA oils through the rocker shafts
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: carolina charger on October 17, 2009, 07:46:46 AM
 I've got a nice 5.9 magnum from a 97 Ram that I kinda wanted to drop into a Dart . I've looked at the knockoff intake for $200 with free shipping. Was wondering if anyone here has tried it yet.
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: wayfast1500 on October 17, 2009, 12:21:02 PM
What's the other differences between the blocks besides the heads? I'd like to build this into a decent street engine and can't find much on it online. 
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: Troy on October 17, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
One other thing - it's balanced differently than the LA so you need a different flexplate. B&M makes one specifically for this and it's reasonably priced.

Troy
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: BrianShaughnessy on October 17, 2009, 12:39:18 PM
  You'd be further ahead keeping the roller cam setup than switching to a flat tappet.    Less hassle about break-in and lobes getting wiped out.  Reuse the same roller lifters, pushrods, etc.    
  Mounting an electric pump is probably easier in the long run than converting to a mechanical.
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: wayfast1500 on October 17, 2009, 10:04:57 PM
Ill keep the roller cam, but I'll probably get mine reground or get a different one.  Seems like a pretty easy swap?
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: Troy on October 18, 2009, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: wayfast1500 on October 17, 2009, 10:04:57 PM
Ill keep the roller cam, but I'll probably get mine reground or get a different one.  Seems like a pretty easy swap?
Yep - it's about as simple as you can get. You can even keep the EFI like Hotrod98. You'll need 360 motor mounts (if your car came with a 318) and a 360 car oil pan.

Troy
Title: Re: New magnum 360
Post by: wayfast1500 on October 18, 2009, 06:19:06 PM
I thought the only difference was 1 mount and it could be shimmed. I have a ego setup off a 95, minus the wiring and a computer from a 98 so it might be possible in the future.