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confused about a "charger" emblem

Started by r4daytona, March 13, 2013, 07:46:17 AM

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r4daytona

Just looking for further verification on the "charger" emblem that goes on the C pillar of my daytona.  I thought I read that they were different for each side because of the curve.  I talked with a vendor about buying a pair and he was nice enough to tell me that I can go to my local dodge dealer and since they are a Mopar performance part and just buy a pair. 

Anyway, I went to a dealer, they could order a set but the book didn't really explain much about them or if different ones were needed.  the parts guys said it should be the same.  SO with that being said, did I read my info incorrectly?  Would they be the same or different for each side?  Once I order I can't return them.

r4daytona

Oh, the part number I got was P2841886

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: r4daytona on March 13, 2013, 07:47:24 AM
Oh, the part number I got was P2841886

The originals were listed as 2 seperate part numbers,and Im not sure why. Ive studied a pair of nos ones and have not seen any difference other than the last number of the part number itself. There must have been a very minute diff, and they eventually decided it was too small to matter because they are know covered by the one part number.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

odcics2

Other side is '887' and hard as hell to find NOS!

Yes - the "C" pillar compound curves requires that there are one for each side.  Yes - you can use 886 on both sides, but it looks 'funny'
on the other side.

Any show quality, make that concourse quality, car should have one of each number.    The trained eye can easily see it.   :Twocents:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

ODZKing

Here is that page from the 69 collision manual.  2841886.  "P" is added because (now) it is considered a classic performance item.
I see they list 887 in the regular parts catalog.  No idea why.  They were always one number as I recall.

hatersaurusrex

Only $5.78 for wheel mouldings?  I should just get NOS ones!
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aussiemuscle

Quote from: hatersaurusrex on March 13, 2013, 09:11:50 PM
Only $5.78 for wheel mouldings?  I should just get NOS ones!
If only you'd bought them in 1974, lol  :shruggy:

70 sublime

If you had the two different numbers which one goes on which side ??
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Charger-Bodie

Even numbered part are right and odd are left .
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

ODZKing

I've posted before but for those who didn't see it, these books are avail on my site at
www.retrorarities.com/ (and the title below)

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: 1HotDaytona on March 14, 2013, 06:00:06 AM
Even numbered part are right and odd are left .

Could they have made the same emblem with two part numbers so assembly line workers wouldn't be confused?   :shruggy:

resq302

I could just see it.  Nope, that script doesn't go on my side, its got x part number on it.  As the whole line of cars go down the assembly line missing one script on the C post!   :smilielol:

Although, that could explain a lot as to why the Pentastar is only on the pass. side.   :rofl:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

odcics2

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 14, 2013, 09:55:38 AM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on March 14, 2013, 06:00:06 AM
Even numbered part are right and odd are left .

Could they have made the same emblem with two part numbers so assembly line workers wouldn't be confused?   :shruggy:

Face down, next to each other, they have a different curve.   
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: odcics2 on March 14, 2013, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 14, 2013, 09:55:38 AM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on March 14, 2013, 06:00:06 AM
Even numbered part are right and odd are left .

Could they have made the same emblem with two part numbers so assembly line workers wouldn't be confused?   :shruggy:

Face down, next to each other, they have a different curve.   

I just installed my last nos set a month ago. I wish the headliner wasnt in so i could do a comparo.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

mauve66

Quote from: resq302 on March 14, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
I could just see it.  Nope, that script doesn't go on my side, its got x part number on it.  As the whole line of cars go down the assembly line missing one script on the C post!   :smilielol:

Although, that could explain a lot as to why the Pentastar is only on the pass. side.   :rofl:

pentastar was for product recognition only from sidewalk of passersby
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

ODZKing

Quote from: mauve66 on March 14, 2013, 07:59:59 PM
Quote from: resq302 on March 14, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
I could just see it.  Nope, that script doesn't go on my side, its got x part number on it.  As the whole line of cars go down the assembly line missing one script on the C post!   :smilielol:

Although, that could explain a lot as to why the Pentastar is only on the pass. side.   :rofl:

pentastar was for product recognition only from sidewalk of passersby
I think he was joking but you are correct. I attached the TSB from 63 about adding to 1963 cars.
And if anyone is interested here is a link to the history.
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/tech/pentastar.html

resq302

Quote from: ODZKing on March 14, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Quote from: mauve66 on March 14, 2013, 07:59:59 PM
Quote from: resq302 on March 14, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
I could just see it.  Nope, that script doesn't go on my side, its got x part number on it.  As the whole line of cars go down the assembly line missing one script on the C post!   :smilielol:

Although, that could explain a lot as to why the Pentastar is only on the pass. side.   :rofl:

pentastar was for product recognition only from sidewalk of passersby
I think he was joking but you are correct. I attached the TSB from 63 about adding to 1963 cars.
And if anyone is interested here is a link to the history.
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/tech/pentastar.html

Yes, I am well aware that it was o n the pass side.  They only did that on the one side to save on costs due to what was mentioned earlier about the passerby on the sidewalk.  For the most part, cars are usually parked on the right side of the road unless you are on a one way street with parking on both sides.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

mauve66

by looking at that bulletin it would seem that it didn't apply to Dodge??
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

resq302

Most likely, Dodge would have had its own bulletin on it.  Back then, dealerships were not like it was today.  It was Chrysler and Plymouth together at a dealership and Dodge at a separate dealership.  I remember seeing on Barry Washingtons Hamtramck registry page that he had factory bulletins, etc. and it was separated by Dodge, and Chrysler/Plymouth categories.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

ODZKing

Yes, Dodge had their own - I only have the one.
Dealerships were Dodge-Dodge trucks and Chrysler-Plymouth-Imperial (which was it's own brand)