Original owner Daytona for sale in 2008

[70gtx440dana]

Not mine......Link to original owner Daytona for sale in 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpnVbXa5Qr4

Anyone know where this one went?

[Aero426]

I believe that board member Maxwell Wedge is the current caretaker of the car.

[moparstuart]

I believe that board member Maxwell Wedge is the current caretaker of the car.

Daddy   

[nascarxx29]

That was the 1st Canadian daytona it was Dr Cheesboroughs car .Before Jim got it

First Daytona Shipped from the Factory is Going up for Auction

Kingston ON. The very first Dodge Daytona ever shipped from Detroit back in 1969 is going up for auction on October 4th, 2008 in a small city in Ontario, Canada. The one-owner car was purchased new off the Kingston Dodge lot by Dr. John Chesbrough in 1970. Apparently, the car had been on display at the 1969 auto show and the Kingston Ontario car dealer convinced Dodge to give him the car for his lot.

Chesbrough has driven this car only 34,000 miles and it is in original condition except for a factory warranty repaint in 1971. One of the interesting features of the car is the dealer installed six-pack and finned valve covers. "That was how I purchased it." says Chesbrough, "I imagine they put those items on to make it more saleable - they tried almost everything to get it off the lot."

Online video interview of the owner with the car here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Tx3JAFi8o

No car truly represents the beginning of this important age in the development of the American car than this very original specimen. 1st shipped from the factory, low miles, original, and in excellent shape, the car has remained in the care of its enthusiastic owner since purchased new in 1970.

Who will buy this well preserved and unique piece of American automotive history?

Call Barry Gordon, Gordon's Estate Services Ltd., 613-542-0963, Mon - Fri 830am - 5pm eastern time. Owner can be contacted for personal interviews through the estate agent.


Was it a oversight this car was a month early.They had to cut costs by leaving them out.Or just forgot them???

This car was shipped aprox one month before any of the others started shipping (according to the Creative Industries shipping list). The trunk mats look original with typical wear for the 39 years they have been in use and there are no mounting holes or marks of any kind in the trunk floor.

[70moparman]

Watched the video and I think its very cool ~ however ~ some think it was a wrecked 500, which would explain no supports, repaint, and the SE option, and 1970 sale date...  Very cool car either way, just curious if its a real Daytona or a C500 with added nose & wing... 

[Aero426]

It is a real Daytona.

Because of the way they were converted, the paint as delivered on Daytonas was often pretty bad.   This is not the only one that got repainted early on.

[held1823]

enough of the cars needed paint work that the factory rep for this zone did not even take time to look at ours. when informed that it was a daytona with paint issues, he ok'd the repaint, sight unseen.

[nascarxx29]

My original owner took his back after paint on plug was flaking off

[maxwellwedge]

I rebuilt the engine and trans, cleaned up the bottom (still looks great), cleaning up all the original components and re-painting the exterior only. Car should be painted in another month or two. Car has a lot of cool, unusual stuff compared to later cars.

But seeing how it was a wrecked 500 originally - should I bother doing this on a fake?  

[moparstuart]

I rebuilt the engine and trans, cleaned up the bottom (still looks great), cleaning up all the original components and re-painting the exterior only. Car should be painted in another month or two. Car has a lot of cool, unusual stuff compared to later cars.

But seeing how it was a wrecked 500 originally - should I bother doing this on a fake?  

since its a fake Dad just let me have it , it will look great next to my fake bird   

[maxwellwedge]

    

[70moparman]

So for the record, your Daytona has no wing supports, never did, and you say this is becuase of early production?  I can understand the repaint, and the SE package being 1 of 10, the wing supports raise the most flags for me...

And I just want to know more about these cars, only reason I care to know an answer, not to call anyone a fake or cause any problems.  Keep that in mind when you reply...

[nascarxx29]

The no wing support thing is still kind of a mystery .They had the engineering details down.The Dale Reeker Prototype daytona wasnt missing them ?

[maxwellwedge]

My Car is the very first car (other than the Reeker prototype) that was shipped out. It was shipped out way before any others as an announcement - show duty car. It was shipped 6-27. All the others didn't start shipping until 8-16. That is 50 days before any other. This is well documented on the Daytona Shipping List.

Either it was rushed out for it's show duty and the "production" wing brackets weren't ready yet  -  or, maybe they didn't want the supports showing in the trunk at the auto shows....or they just plain forgot. After 40+ years - It can only be an educated guess

Don't know about "flags being raised" or people that think it was a converted 500.......That makes me laugh. This car is on the list, been with the original owner until I aquired it, is known by all the wing car people in the hobby - all numbers authenticated. Has many prototype parts in the nose etc. etc.

I am proud to own it

[nascarxx29]

Has many [[prototype parts]] in the nose etc
  Im waiting to see it in a magazine to authenticate .What Ive seen on other cars and there nosecone internals to compare it with It also has the slanted A which was explained by Aero 426 mentioned by Dave Patik as a early decal issue and later corrected

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,49682.msg534281.html#msg534281

[nascarxx29]

The slanted A decal issue wasnt prototype related unique.But instead a early style of stripe

   
Aero426
master


The stripes on the orange car are masked off and believed to be original. Dave Patik said that the original stripes with the slant to the 'A' was one style of original stripe. He had made repro stripes like these early on in the mid 1970's, but straightened up the A's when people questioned that it looked wonky. Patik said that he made his first stripes by using tracings from originals.

The driver side of this same car has A's with some slant, but not as exaggerated as the passenger side.  

[Aero426]

This car is as pure as the driven snow.   

You can bet that the guys who hand assembled these cars at Creative would LAUGH at us trying to figure out the minutia of each car 43 years later, and why something deviates from the norm.    You can expect the unexpected on an early car like this. 

[70moparman]

I see... Very cool Daytona, thanks for explaining.  I did love the video with the Dr. going over everything... Also love that Daytona in your icon, with the gold wing... Awsome cars! 

[moparstuart]

forsure some got out the door with part missing  look at the playboy ad daytona with no fender scoops  
 Promotional cars were rushed out to advertise them .

[nascarxx29]

 
Also Chrysler had alternative vendors like Hackett brass for the wings .They could have had another sub vendor for nosecone parts make things more confusing

[hemigeno]

Don't know about "flags being raised" or people that think it was a converted 500.......That makes me laugh.

... me too   

This car is on the list, been with the original owner until I aquired it, is known by all the wing car people in the hobby - all numbers authenticated. Has many prototype parts in the nose etc. etc.

I didn't realize anyone was seriously questioning this car's provenance, to be honest.  Sad commentary (about the naysayers, not the car!).

I am proud to own it

It's in great hands.

[nascarxx29]

  Maybe the R4 red 500 of Cotton Owens that got fitted for daytona parts at one point in time.Got people thinking a 500 transformation to a R4 daytona took place .Which is not the case .
There was also a rumored #2 daytona engineering car besides the Dale Reeker 69 RT changed to XX29 daytona was built

[nascarxx29]

I saved this .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpnVbXa5Qr4

You see there is no wing braces or brackets or holes in trunk floor thru trunk matt. But there is the mounting stud poking up through the trunk matt for the daytona scissors jack.  The differences for the 500 would be no second jack instruction sticker on trunk lid backside no scissors jack mount point or wing braces or wing washer

[maxwellwedge]

I see... Very cool Daytona, thanks for explaining.  I did love the video with the Dr. going over everything... Also love that Daytona in your icon, with the gold wing... Awsome cars! 

No Problem  --  Although the Doc was "forgetful" on a few points he made...

All in all - a good car. The Daytona in my icon is another - belonged to Aero426 for a long time as well.

[hemi68charger]

... The Daytona in my icon is another - belonged to Aero426 for a long time as well.