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Does the sequester impact your life?

Started by XH29N0G, February 27, 2013, 04:11:17 PM

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XH29N0G

For me, it probably means letting someone go, but we will keep working.   

It is one way to make cuts across the board.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

RallyeMike

The herd of jackasses will never figure it out, so I say bring it on. I have no idea what it means for me, bu we'll all survive it.
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JB400

Lets quit the band aid fixes and pass a damn budget.   As far as I know of, it won't affect me directly.

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Mytur Binsdirti

It affects me zero percent. Government spending has gone up 17% in the past 4 years, so a 2% decrease is not even a pi$$ hole in the snow. So what's all the fuss about?  

This editorial pretty much sums up my feelings....



By Howie Carr / Boston Herald

I think I've seen this ­"Sequester" movie before. Only it had a different title — it was called "Prop 2 1/2 Override."

O---a and his common nightwalkers in the media are trotting out the exact same scare tactics that the local teachers' unions and assorted municipal layabouts have been employing to frighten the bejesus out of taxpayers around here for decades.

It happens every spring. The schools need more money. The voters yawn. The school superintendent ups the ante and says, well, if you don't give us the extra money then the first thing we'll have to cut is the high school football team. Followed by the band. Not the third assistant associate deputy senior school superintendent making $120,000, but the football team.

Then the selectmen threaten to close a fire station. Or lay off cops. The town dump? No longer open on weekends.

The problem for the hacks is, this shakedown may work the first time, maybe even the second. But as O---a is now complaining privately, eventually the law of diminishing returns sets in. Before he embarked on this latest the-sky-is-falling campaign, perhaps Barack should have consulted with the little boy who cried wolf.

Here's how absurd these scare tactics are. Over the weekend the semi-official Associated Press breathlessly reported in a story on the National Park Service: "3,500 volunteers who provide 40,000 hours on resource management duties would be eliminated."

They're eliminating ... volunteers? How does this save money?

Listen, everybody who's on a payroll took a 2 percent pay cut Jan. 1 when the Social Security taxes went back up.

Learn to live with it, the peons in the Dreaded Private Sector were told. Two percent — big deal. But when the privileged class — the government — takes a 2 percent "cut," which isn't really a cut, it's "draconian."

Do you remember any sob stories about the terrible suffering of Josh and Mindy, the $1 million-a-year Yuppies? Imagine if they had been interviewed, and had told the reporter that because of their approximate 5 percent B----k pay cut, their kids were going to have to drop out of college, the bank was going to foreclose on their house, the repo man was coming for the BMW, etc.

Readers would have laughed. But we're supposed to tremble with fear when B----k uses the same scare tactics.

B----k is now reduced to saying that the draconian cuts may not show up immediately, which means, they won't show up, period. Because they aren't really going to happen.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!


Silver R/T

No, it does not affect me - I'm just a blue collar worker. I say cut Obama administration spending, that includes all the stooges in the while house.
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bull

Well, the only effect it's going have it what the president lets it have. Two quick examples of how he's strong-arming over it is ordering DHS to let a bunch of illegal immigrants go free and preventing a second aircraft carrier from being deployed to the Gulf. It's the same kind of crap that local politicians pull when they're trying to sell a bond measure. They say if it doesn't pass we'll have to let prisoners run wild and your house will burn down because the firefighters and police will get laid off.

I'm with Mike, let it happen. I don't think the feds should have bailed any corporations out either back when the economy took a dump. The free market should decide what businesses live or die, not the Federal Reserve or the morons in DC.

RallyeMike

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bull

Now the news outlets are saying the administration had nothing to do with the DHS letting the detainees free. The news outlets are so sketchy these days I don't know what to believe. Obama keeps claiming to be out of the loop when it comes to Benghazi, Fast and Furious and now this (among a lot of other stuff). Either he's really dumb and has no idea what his people are doing or he screws things up frequently and refuses to accept responsibility. Either way we lose. It doesn't help that the media rolls over and pees on its belly every time he speaks to them.

XH29N0G

The way I see it, this whole thing came about because the govt went into a budget hole and could not find a way out because the parts of the budget that had been being cut were parts that some wanted to protect and there were other parts of the budget that they wanted to distribute the cuts to that were shielded from previous cuts. 

Without raising the money to pay for it (which would require moving tax rates back up) it could not be balanced. 

So, they (Democrats and Republicans) put something in place that would cut across the board.  I am pretty sure that the ones who favored raising taxes thought that once the cuts happened across the board (military and other places) that it would provide incentive to raise income (taxes).  Bottom line is no one likes taxes, so we will make cuts until it is more economical to pay taxes than lose something we want to keep.  Right now decisions at all levels are just being made about what to cut. 
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

sunfire69


chargerboy69

Quote from: bull on February 27, 2013, 07:50:14 PM
Well, the only effect it's going have it what the president lets it have. Two quick examples of how he's strong-arming over it is ordering DHS to let a bunch of illegal immigrants go free and preventing a second aircraft carrier from being deployed to the Gulf. It's the same kind of crap that local politicians pull when they're trying to sell a bond measure. They say if it doesn't pass we'll have to let prisoners run wild and your house will burn down because the firefighters and police will get laid off.

I'm with Mike, let it happen. I don't think the feds should have bailed any corporations out either back when the economy took a dump. The free market should decide what businesses live or die, not the Federal Reserve or the morons in DC.

The same old scare tactics, with the same mouths spewing the BS.

God forbid we cut in entitlement programs with tons of waste (free cell phones, free internet, free computers), lets cut prison guards and firemen first.   :rotz:
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sunfire69

That's whats bad....there has been no budget passed in over 4 years....the government has been running on a series of "continuing resolutions"...meaning they operate at the previous years funding levels until a budget is passed..government agencies have been working at 2007 levels for the last 4 years...the reason for the budget increases are all the entitlement programs.... that's why they are demanding spending cuts...it's insane how much is wasted on the things you just mentioned....freebies....

my73charger

Quote from: bull on February 27, 2013, 07:50:14 PM
Well, the only effect it's going have it what the president lets it have. Two quick examples of how he's strong-arming over it is ordering DHS to let a bunch of illegal immigrants go free and preventing a second aircraft carrier from being deployed to the Gulf. It's the same kind of crap that local politicians pull when they're trying to sell a bond measure. They say if it doesn't pass we'll have to let prisoners run wild and your house will burn down because the firefighters and police will get laid off.

I'm with Mike, let it happen. I don't think the feds should have bailed any corporations out either back when the economy took a dump. The free market should decide what businesses live or die, not the Federal Reserve or the morons in DC.

I am with you guys on this.  I have lost any and all faith in our government.  Completely frustrated!

Dino

Once I started ignoring politics life got better.  No it won't impact my life.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

RallyeMike

We need one of these for Washington:
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JB400

We tried to get one.  Thank Ohio for not doing thier part

RallyeMike

Righto  :rotz:

If you are standing on one side and pointing your finger at the other, you are part of the problem. We hire these people to stand for principals and the platfrom they run on, but also to compromise and work toward the overall good of the county. They've completely lost sight of that. The game is not "Win at any cost".

That's why i say bring it on.. You, we, they..... all need a wake up call.

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bull

Quote from: RallyeMike on February 28, 2013, 04:28:02 PM
They've completely lost sight of that. The game is not "Win at any cost".

In many cases, that's the thought pattern the folks in Washington seem to have. It's all about the agenda and they'll do anything it takes to shove it through, even if it means shredding the Constitution. Basically it boils down to power and protecting that which gets them the votes they need to stay put. If they have to promise money we don't have to millions of freeloaders to get the votes, they'll do it with a smile on their face and not think twice about budget deficits or the national debt.

BTW, the administration is fixing to send $60-$80 million to the Syrian rebels pretty soon.

Chargen69


Mytur Binsdirti


Tilar

Quote from: XH29N0G on February 27, 2013, 04:11:17 PM
For me, it probably means letting someone go, but we will keep working.   

It is one way to make cuts across the board.


Think of it this way. If you take their budget and compare it to yours or my budget, They won't be able to buy that six pack of beer this week.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



bull

Quote from: Tilar on February 28, 2013, 07:46:46 PM
Quote from: XH29N0G on February 27, 2013, 04:11:17 PM
For me, it probably means letting someone go, but we will keep working.   

It is one way to make cuts across the board.


Think of it this way. If you take their budget and compare it to yours or my budget, They won't be able to buy that six pack of beer this week.

In their case they'd buy beer and lottery tickets and skip the mortgage payment.

brigond

What! Another tragedy? The fiscal cliff,before that was the Government shutdown, now the sequester! This sequester is one molecule partical on the entire earth. A few billion dollars next to trillions of dollars are you kidding. Once again the president is going down the list of all the tragedies of the sequester that he himself put into place. Wait until we get the full affects of the health care he put in place. We will look back on this and laugh. I have family in Europe and mom and dad came from that system of health care . Dad always said , If I get sick over there , get me back to the USA as soon as possible. This whole thing is politicians playing politics and creating diversions from all the other things they are screwing up. No this wont affect me.
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oldgold69

damn the world didn't end  the mayans were wrong

Tilar

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 01, 2013, 07:09:48 AM
OMG (!!!!!!), 170 million people will be getting their pink slips today!!!!  ::)

http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/28/maxine-waters-exaggerates-over-170-million-jobs-could-be-lost-due-to-sequestration/#ixzz2MEhAEw73

It's hard for me to imagine so many stupid things coming out of the same mouth. She should be in a corner somewhere with her coloring books, of course someone may need to explain what the lines are for.

She reminds me of this guy.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg <======= Pay attention kids, This is your mind on drugs!

Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



PocketThunder

Quote from: Tilar on March 01, 2013, 09:55:06 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 01, 2013, 07:09:48 AM
OMG (!!!!!!), 170 million people will be getting their pink slips today!!!!  ::)

http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/28/maxine-waters-exaggerates-over-170-million-jobs-could-be-lost-due-to-sequestration/#ixzz2MEhAEw73
It's hard for me to imagine so many stupid things coming out of the same mouth. She should be in a corner somewhere with her coloring books, of course someone may need to explain what the lines are for.
She reminds me of this guy.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg <======= Pay attention kids, This is your mind on drugs!

"someone may need to explain what the lines are for"    :rofl:  :rofl:   Ok Tilar, I laughed out loud on that one...   :lol:   :smilielol:
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Old Moparz

Change CAN happen if people would clean the shit out of their ears so they can hear what goes on & get off their fat lazy asses to actually do something if they aren't happy about things. Self serving politicians are ALL THE SAME. They are looking out for their own interests because they know the system is a joke & that working for a living will get you nowhere by the time you retire. So what do they do? They create a system for themselves that will take care of them & make them untouchable.

Put aside whatever difference of opinion you have on which party is better, they are ALL THE SAME & DON'T CARE.

A good example of people who got fed up with how things were going with the economy, corrupt politicians, criminal bankers & corporations, & actually did something about it was Iceland.

Heard this story on NPR a while back but can only find this similar story online.......

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iceland/index.html

It's too long to copy & paste here, so I only posted portions of it that will get your attention. Please read the whole thing, it's interesting.


Iceland is a small but rugged country far from anywhere that suffered from financial wreckage as severely as any in the developed world after its overstretched banks failed in 2008. In a matter of weeks after the banks' collapse, the unemployment rate jumped to 10 percent, house prices fell, the currency plunged and inflation surged. During the boom years, Iceland became a nation obsessed with banking. The success of the nation's banks, however, was deceptive. The economy was fueled almost entirely by foreign money. Then, as the global financial infrastructure teetered on the verge of collapse, the bonds came due, and Iceland's banks couldn't repay them.
___________________________________________________

During the crisis, Iceland did many things differently from its European counterparts. It let its three largest banks fail, instead of bailing them out. It ensured that domestic depositors got their money back and gave debt relief to struggling homeowners and to businesses facing bankruptcy.
___________________________________________________

Former Leader Prosecuted Over Financial Crisis

In March 2012, Iceland opened a criminal trial against its former prime minister, Geir H. Haarde, becoming the first country to prosecute one of its leaders over the financial crisis of 2008.

Mr. Haarde was charged, in effect, with doing too little to protect the country against the depredations of its bankers as they pursued wildly expansionary lending that resulted in financial disaster for the country. He was indicted in 2010 by a sharply divided Parliament, charged with violating the laws of ministerial responsibility.

On April 23, Mr. Haarde was found guilty of failing to keep his cabinet informed of major developments during the 2008 financial crisis, but was cleared of three more serious charges of negligence.

__________________________________________________

Maybe the way to accomplish things is to convict people & take away their golden parachute.  :Twocents:
               Bob               



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Dino

Quote from: Old Moparz on March 01, 2013, 10:44:31 AM
Change CAN happen if people would clean the shit out of their ears so they can hear what goes on & get off their fat lazy asses to actually do something if they aren't happy about things. Self serving politicians are ALL THE SAME. They are looking out for their own interests because they know the system is a joke & that working for a living will get you nowhere by the time you retire. So what do they do? They create a system for themselves that will take care of them & make them untouchable.

Put aside whatever difference of opinion you have on which party is better, they are ALL THE SAME & DON'T CARE.

A good example of people who got fed up with how things were going with the economy, corrupt politicians, criminal bankers & corporations, & actually did something about it was Iceland.

Heard this story on NPR a while back but can only find this similar story online.......

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iceland/index.html

It's too long to copy & paste here, so I only posted portions of it that will get your attention. Please read the whole thing, it's interesting.


Iceland is a small but rugged country far from anywhere that suffered from financial wreckage as severely as any in the developed world after its overstretched banks failed in 2008. In a matter of weeks after the banks' collapse, the unemployment rate jumped to 10 percent, house prices fell, the currency plunged and inflation surged. During the boom years, Iceland became a nation obsessed with banking. The success of the nation's banks, however, was deceptive. The economy was fueled almost entirely by foreign money. Then, as the global financial infrastructure teetered on the verge of collapse, the bonds came due, and Iceland's banks couldn't repay them.
___________________________________________________

During the crisis, Iceland did many things differently from its European counterparts. It let its three largest banks fail, instead of bailing them out. It ensured that domestic depositors got their money back and gave debt relief to struggling homeowners and to businesses facing bankruptcy.
___________________________________________________

Former Leader Prosecuted Over Financial Crisis

In March 2012, Iceland opened a criminal trial against its former prime minister, Geir H. Haarde, becoming the first country to prosecute one of its leaders over the financial crisis of 2008.

Mr. Haarde was charged, in effect, with doing too little to protect the country against the depredations of its bankers as they pursued wildly expansionary lending that resulted in financial disaster for the country. He was indicted in 2010 by a sharply divided Parliament, charged with violating the laws of ministerial responsibility.

On April 23, Mr. Haarde was found guilty of failing to keep his cabinet informed of major developments during the 2008 financial crisis, but was cleared of three more serious charges of negligence.

__________________________________________________

Maybe the way to accomplish things is to convict people & take away their golden parachute.  :Twocents:

I wish that could happen here, but it never will. 

You are absolutely right though, the country is divided between conservatives and liberals, yet they do not see how alike they really are (not talking about the extremists here).  The bashing of one party and defending of the other is absolutely absurd.  We bend over to whatever ruling party and take it with a smile.  Yeah we can all bitch about how everything is wrong but we don't do anything else do we?

Take care of yourself, don't expect anything out of life but that what you put in it?  Want retirement?  Start saving, don't count on the government for a helping hand.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Old Moparz

I forgot to add, yes, there is a chance that the sequester will have an impact for me, but not directly & not as badly as for some people. The company I work for does do work at the West Point Military Academy. If their budget gets cut I wouldn't be surprised if some, or all of that work disappears. We have other work going on & West Point has cut spending before, it comes & goes in cycles.
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JB400

Here's what our celebrity has to say about it.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-discuss-sequestration-11-35-m-163015466--politics.html

Favorite quote "I'm not a dictator, I'm the president." :popcrn:

Mytur Binsdirti

"This is not going to be an apocalypse"


Really? That's not the story that's being he & his sycophants have been spinning for months.  ::)