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Started by greenpigs, February 15, 2006, 06:31:56 PM

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greenpigs

Gang

  I am in the market for a house and have a problem, the area I would like to live has plenty of houses with 2 car garages to choose from. But the lots are positioned where adding another 2 car garage isn't possible. I don't want a farm house in order to get a barn and can't afford to build a place on said farm land for that barn. I know what I can afford and in some of the older areas they have houses with one car attached + a two car out back, but property value is stale and on the way down in that area.

  What would you do or what have you done to solve your storage problems?

   BTW I do not want to use a storage area to keep my stuff.
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Khyron

I just bought a house with enough land to build my additional 2 car garage.


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MichaelRW

The prior house I owned had a two car garage. Not enough space. The next house I bought I simply made it one of the "gotta have" items - a 3 car garage. Now that I have a 3 car garage I could use more space. I constructed a couple of those large plastic storage units, put them in the side of the yard and moved the non-car stuff into them. Rakes, shovels, etc. and that gives me more space for the "important" stuff.
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Shakey

I have a single car garage and space for one in the driveway, damn sidewalk!  The only regret I have with purchasing this house was the single car garage and small backyard.  At the time my Wife and I did not want to be "house poor" so we stuck to our budget.  I have a Child now and would like to have more space for her out back.  I also need more space for bike, wagon sleigh etc. in the garage.

The single car garage is driving me nuts!

I am now looking for either a 2-3 car garage house in town or a piece of property just outside of town that will accomodate or already have a seperate garage.

My car is being built out at my In-Laws farm which is ok as that is where all of the tools and space is.

I guess the bottom line is - how much space do you need?

If memory serves me correct green, you are not married - true?

Do you need space for 4 cars?  If I were on my own I'd be pleased with a 2 car garage.  One spot for each of my cars, my daily driver and my Charger.  If I were wroking on the car I'd leave the daily driver outside.

Garage space is important!  Be picky because moving sucks.

nh_mopar_fan

When we bought our house, we had a one car detached garage. 3 years ago, we tore it down and put up a 3 bay. Wish I had known NHCharger back then.

Even with the 3 bays, none of our daily drivers get garaged. If you have to deal with winter, I'd say it's important. Luckily, my wife understands why the drivers don't get the garage space...

Dave22443

  We built our house on a budget and had no garage at first.  When the rates dropped, we refinanced and added a 2 car 24'x26' attached (and fully finished) garage. Original plans called for 18'x26' and I expanded it.  I'm still wishing I had made it bigger.

 A friend of mine had no garage and only enough room for a single.  So he bought the two lots next to his and built a massive 3 car garage 30'x40'.  If it were completely empty and you parked them just right, you could easily get 10 or 12 Honda Accords in there.  But guess what...  its not big enough.  He just bought a 12'x24' wooden (prefab barn style) shed and dropped it behind the garage to hold all the "crap"  (I.e., non car stuff) just to make more room.  Now its full and you still can't get through his garage without carefully picking your steps.

 I think my brother had a good idea.  He built a detached two story double wide, double deep garage.  He could get four cars in it (front to back) and had a full size second floor for holding all the other stuff.  Between the two floors, he had something like 2,000 sq. ft. of space.  But then, come to think of it, he doesn't have enough space either!

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hemi68charger

Ever wear briefs that were too tight?  Now, can you relate...........

I'm in the same boat now.. Looking for a house to replace the 4+garage I have now... It's tough finding the right combination of house with either a 3-car garage or a 2-car garage with expandibility..... Heck, even the 3-car garage I buy needs to be able to grow....

Hope you find that right house....

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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Steve P.

It seems you can never have enough room. Even when you think something you find will work for the money, the four letter words start coming out as soon as the car is apart and you are out of building space.

One very important thing people tend to over look is space above your head. If you can go up with another floor you can store half a car over your head. BUT<<<<< nothing seems to beat floor space.
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Old Moparz

Storage will always be a problem unless you are one of the anti-clutter types that will toss things in the trash before it's actually trash. If you are like most, a 2 car garage will be 2 cars too small. If you have a car taken apart to restore, it will require twice as much space to do it. If you can, make sure you have a high enough ceiling to consider a 4 post lift & get one above the other & have 2 in the space for one.

I'll add that you just have to be patient with the house hunt so you get the right combination of what you're looking for. My wife knew when we were hunting that a 2 car garage was the absolute minimum size I would consider. Of course that was 1989 & we only had 2 cars we would have kept inside, my '69 Satellite convertible & her '88 Mustang GT. She told a lot of realtors to forget it when they said the garage wasn't what we were after.

We also came across a lot of realtors that just didn't give a rat's ass as to what we wanted, what we could afford, or what we were willing to pay. Maybe they did care & they were just dumb. We were showed houses with tiny 1 car garages, houses that were twice as much as we could afford & houses with no garage & no room to build one. A realtor is a salesperson who will be quicker to show a listing that they have instead of splitting the commission with another realtor who may be a better listing.

We finally came across a house without a garage, but there was room to build one & the price difference made it a deal. We bought it after looking for 6 months & it was worth not rushing or overpaying. It took a lot longer to recover financially from the purchase, & at one point my company let people go when it was bought out so I had no job & couldn't think of spending on a garage. Try to get what you need & want up front or you may not get it for a long time.

Don't forget about all the other accessories & toys we all collect & need. Tool boxes, lawnmowers, snow blowers, generators, compressors & tons of other junk that take up a lot of space & weigh a lot more than a plastic grille you can hang on a nail or shelf. I almost built a 2-1/2 car garage, but my wife said "You won't be happy with that, better make it bigger & add a second floor. I did, & more space was definitely a good choice & cheaper to build up front than to add on later.

Glad I didn't argue with her.  :D
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PocketThunder

Quote from: greenpigs on February 15, 2006, 06:31:56 PM
Gang

  I am in the market for a house and have a problem, the area I would like to live has plenty of houses with 2 car garages to choose from. But the lots are positioned where adding another 2 car garage isn't possible. I don't want a farm house in order to get a barn and can't afford to build a place on said farm land for that barn. I know what I can afford and in some of the older areas they have houses with one car attached + a two car out back, but property value is stale and on the way down in that area.

  What would you do or what have you done to solve your storage problems?

   BTW I do not want to use a storage area to keep my stuff.


See if you can go up and out the back with an addition.  then if the place only has a one car garage, you can go tandem and put the Charger in the back for the winter, and go up also and put a loft in for junk sotrage.
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

HAZZARDJOHN

I am in the process of buying land to build a house and I am going to build the biggest pole barn that the county will let me do.  ;D Don't need the space now but I am sure I will in coming years.

AS far as more garage space, My neighbor built n addition in the front of his two car attached garage, essentially turning it into a 4-car garage. When you look at the house from the front and back it looks like a normal house. This might be an option to consider.

~HJ
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't fix your brakes, but don't worry I made your horn louder."

8WHEELER

I no longer have a space problem, I rented for 8yrs, saved money and bought a place in a great area.
We have one acre now and have been hear 15yrs, I like having everything in the garage and sheds.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Telvis

You never have enough garage space. There's no such thing as too much that's for sure.

greenpigs

Thanks

At work last night a bank came in and talked about mortgages & the lady has a house with a one car attached and two detached for sale. The two car is insulated, heated, air conditioned and drywalled plus its the right price :icon_smile_approve: This is by no means a steal in asking price, but I plan on going to look at it anyways and will try to wait till the right place comes along.
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bull

Garage/shop space is like money, you can't have too much. That said I don't know a solution for you other than spending more money. One thing you do to plan for later is find a piece of property with a large back yard and an attached garage that can be modified to drive all the way through to access the back yard, ie., a garage door front and back. That way you can either build a garage addition or another garage and it won't be seen from the front of the house. I could have done that with our first house because there was no part of the living space behind the single car garage. The back yard would have been big enough for a huge shop but the house was too small anyway so we moved. Now our house is big enough but the two-car garage doesn't cut it. I have an RV pad but I'm not going to park the Charger outside. I think 8WHEELER has the right idea. I'm jealous, Dan. :flame:

4402tuff4u

If I was in the market of buying a home, it would have to have at least a 2 car garage and a basement. I have a 1 1/2 car garage and between the kids bicycles and other stuff, I hardly have room for my stuff, let alone the Charger. I should get rid of one welder. I have 3 (1 mig and 2 stick gasoline powered engine) and get rid of other crap I have. 8WHEELER is the true man with that aircraft hanger he has.  :bow: 

I think I saw his garage in a satellite photo from google Earth. :icon_smile_big:
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

Skyview69

My advice is to wait until you can afford at least a three plus car garage. I bought my house with a large two car garage annd it is not enough- two Chargers, lawn mower, snow blower, kids bikes and toys -etc.  My thought was that I have 3 acres and can buiild whatever kind of barn/garage I want but the reality is I can't afford to build anything and it will be years before it can be done.  I should have waited and found one with a two car garage AND A POLE BARN!!

PocketThunder

Quote from: 4402tuff4u on February 16, 2006, 11:34:08 AM

I think I saw his garage in a satellite photo from google Earth. :icon_smile_big:

:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

I live in the city and i have a 3 car garage that gets me by.  My Dad just built a 48x60x16high pole shed for storing crap(camper, boats, musclecars, motorcycles, etc.) and after being built for only 6 months now its FULL!!!
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

hemi68charger

Quote from: 8WHEELER on February 16, 2006, 12:45:45 AM
I no longer have a space problem, I rented for 8yrs, saved money and bought a place in a great area.
We have one acre now and have been hear 15yrs, I like having everything in the garage and sheds.

Dan

Dang Dan !!!!  That's great.. Where do you live? The Northwest?.....
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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8WHEELER

Quote from: hemi68charger on February 16, 2006, 01:57:26 PM
Quote from: 8WHEELER on February 16, 2006, 12:45:45 AM
I no longer have a space problem, I rented for 8yrs, saved money and bought a place in a great area.
We have one acre now and have been hear 15yrs, I like having everything in the garage and sheds.

Dan

Dang Dan !!!!  That's great.. Where do you live? The Northwest?.....


Yep 20mi east of down town Seattle. The first 40x24ft deep is for my daily drivers and a big loft and a wall. The back 36x40 has
a 14ft insulated sliding door so I can drive right out the door on the back side of the garage, I can bring a car home on
a trailer, pull right in the garage and unload in the back bays and never get wet. It got cold as hell in the winter before
I insulated the garage and put a furnice in the back portion. Yes it rains and gets cold hear  ;D  but it could be worse  :icon_smile_cool:

I have motion sensor lights all over the place, two sets on the back side and on the side's, and two motion system alarms
I picked up at Harbor Freight.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

greenpigs

Thats like showing a starving man a sandwich and not sharing 8WHEELER :cussing:  ;)
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Blown70

I have to say I thought my 35 X 40 was good but man a guy can always use more.  I will take a picture. OHHH and with -20 coming,  HEATING is wonderful..... :yesnod:

Tom

Charger_Fan

Quote from: Skyview69 on February 16, 2006, 12:40:37 PM
My thought was that I have 3 acres and can buiild whatever kind of barn/garage I want but the reality is I can't afford to build anything and it will be years before it can be done.  I should have waited and found one with a two car garage AND A POLE BARN!!
That's my problem. I'm on 1/3 acre, with a big back yard (85' from the back of the house to my property line) and planned on building an additional garage behind my house. Only problem is that I can't afford to. :'(
I've thought about getting one of these...



...but I'm not sure if I should put 3 grand into that, or put it toward an actual permanent building.
If I put it toward a permanent building, then the 3 G's probably won't go very far & it'll take me forever to finish it.
I hate money.


Oh, sorry for the hijack...ummm...go for the big garage! :icon_smile_big:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

greenpigs

QuoteOh, sorry for the hijack...ummm...go for the big garage!

What, talking about what to do with a garage isn't a hijack as the more info on this subject the better.
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PocketThunder

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 16, 2006, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: Skyview69 on February 16, 2006, 12:40:37 PM
My thought was that I have 3 acres and can buiild whatever kind of barn/garage I want but the reality is I can't afford to build anything and it will be years before it can be done.  I should have waited and found one with a two car garage AND A POLE BARN!!
That's my problem. I'm on 1/3 acre, with a big back yard (85' from the back of the house to my property line) and planned on building an additional garage behind my house. Only problem is that I can't afford to. :'(
I've thought about getting one of these...



...but I'm not sure if I should put 3 grand into that, or put it toward an actual permanent building.
If I put it toward a permanent building, then the 3 G's probably won't go very far & it'll take me forever to finish it.
I hate money.


Oh, sorry for the hijack...ummm...go for the big garage! :icon_smile_big:

Does the back of your gayrodge look out into your backyard?   could you go tandem off the back by adding on or is there living space behind it.?
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

4402tuff4u

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 16, 2006, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: Skyview69 on February 16, 2006, 12:40:37 PM
My thought was that I have 3 acres and can buiild whatever kind of barn/garage I want but the reality is I can't afford to build anything and it will be years before it can be done.  I should have waited and found one with a two car garage AND A POLE BARN!!
That's my problem. I'm on 1/3 acre, with a big back yard (85' from the back of the house to my property line) and planned on building an additional garage behind my house. Only problem is that I can't afford to. :'(
I've thought about getting one of these...



...but I'm not sure if I should put 3 grand into that, or put it toward an actual permanent building.
If I put it toward a permanent building, then the 3 G's probably won't go very far & it'll take me forever to finish it.
I hate money.


Oh, sorry for the hijack...ummm...go for the big garage! :icon_smile_big:

CF, I did a quick and dirty estimate. I would think 3k should get you close to a spread footing with a slab for a 20' x 40' garage. You will need approx. 30 cyds of concrete, plus rebar and labor. I'm not sure what concrete goes for by you and labor.  
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

Steve P.

3K would just about cover the concrete... :devil:


Now you have the buried goods to worry about too.. You know, power, phone line, computer wiring, water line, alarm wiring, intercom wiring etc, etc. 

My shop is only 20 X 20. It's too small.. I have allot of driveway wrapping around to it and paid for most of the work to be done but also had a bunch of free-be help from family and friends. It took over a year to build. (Time, money and Pain). in the end we figured it cost us about $11,000.oo total. It has everything but water and heat. I don't need heat in Florida... I wish I could have built it bigger, but,,, code says (NOPE).... :flame: Oh well!!
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Charger_Fan

Quote from: greenpigs on February 16, 2006, 05:18:20 PM
QuoteOh, sorry for the hijack...ummm...go for the big garage!

What, talking about what to do with a garage isn't a hijack as the more info on this subject the better.
Well, I said that after I realized I was babbling on about my own predicament. :-\ ;D

Quote from: PocketThunder on February 16, 2006, 05:24:57 PM

Does the back of your gayrodge look out into your backyard?   could you go tandem off the back by adding on or is there living space behind it.?
Yep, the back of it faces the back yard. I have thought of blasting out the back wall & adding onto it like Troy (Hemi68) did. The only problem is that the ground is lower back there, so I wouldn't be able to have the floor at the same level as my existing one without making it look like it's on stilts. ;D

Quote from: 4402tuff4u on February 16, 2006, 05:29:10 PM
CF, I did a quick and dirty estimate. I would think 3k should get you close to a spread footing with a slab for a 20' x 40' garage. You will need approx. 30 cyds of concrete, plus rebar and labor. I'm not sure what concrete goes for by you and labor. 
I haven't checked into the cost either, other than a rough guess from a contractor who was building a house a few doors down last year. He estimated about $2500 back then, but now concrete prices have gone up, so it's probably closer to your guess.

So then, I'd have this nice place to park & no roof or walls for a while. :icon_smile_big:
I dunno, I just need to pick one thing (garage this year vs. start Charger resto this year) & go for it...that's my biggest problem, I don't stay focused on one direction long enough.

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

is_it_EVER_done?

How important is garage space???  You might as well be asking "How important is SEX"!  Even a 3 car will start to make you feel cramped after a very short while.

Somewhat off the subject, but even more important is that (in my opinion) now is not the best time to buy unless you are getting a steal on the property! Over 40% of the houses in this country are owned by "investors" (read speculators), and the market has flattened out (even in extreme areas like mine), and is way over due for a correction as the investors start to bail out.

Couple that with the fact that over 70% of the houses in this country are on interest only loans, and that our new Fed (I forget his name right now) has said that further interest rate increases are probably necessary, and the fact that business in general will be facing necessary layoffs due to the resulting downturn, is going to dictate a substantial reduction in house values in the near future. That doesn't mean that now is not a good time to buy, just that you need to find the "steal of the century" type deal. They are out there; you just have to find them.

As a footnote to all of that, it's quite possible (and in my opinion probable) that our next president will be female. All politics aside, -- Even the most optimistic of people will consolidate their nest eggs (meaning cash out of most investments), and take a wait and see approach to this (for the U.S.A.) extreme change in our political make-up. Again I must state that investors own over 40% of the houses in this country! Even if I'm completely wrong on who will get elected, the very possibility will create an even deeper buyers market.

The real point I'm trying to make is that you can probably find what you want, (garage space and all), at a price you're willing to pay, if you just don't get to anxious to purchase. My suggestion is to offer 10% less than asking on properties you feel are reasonable deals and fit your requirements. The reason I say this is due to two facts that are absolutes in real estate.

#1. You buy at a profit. - It's a rare situation that you can sell at a profit if you ignore this.

#2. You can always go up on your offer, never down. - Meaning that even if your offer is flat rejected, you can always offer more. If your first offer is accepted, you offered too much!

Sorry that this got so far off your topic, but I hate to see people take a hit on a real estate purchase if I can help it.

My suggestion is to get pre-qualified for the max loan that you can (even if your not willing to go that high), ask for the moon as far as seller concessions, and be very analytical in your decision.

I hope this has been of some help.

nh_mopar_fan

"Over 40% of the houses in this country are owned by "investors" (read speculators), "
"Couple that with the fact that over 70% of the houses in this country are on interest only loans, "

Do you have a link to support these claims? I'm not trying to be a wise-ass, I just find that very hard to believe.

chrisII

 in the future im hoping to buy my dads place. currently there is a small 1 car that is located behind the house , away from the main driveway that was put up for me to use as a shop before i bought my own house. that garadge is mostly used for lawn mower and such. if i bought the place (on 1 acre) i would build like a 30x40 pole building at the head of the driveway. the plann is to devide the back side off to be like 16 or 18 x 30 as a shop and use the rest for storing daily drivers and extra parts ect. this way i dont have to heat nearly as much in winter. heck i wouldnt even have to pour concrete in the front part if money didnt allow. if the current 1 car wasnt only 12 wide i would use that as the shop and add on to the back. when we had it moved in we poured the slab to 12 x 30 instead of 12 x 22 that the garadge is. if i was on a really tight budget i would kick out 1 side wall and insulate, but that would be a last resort.

Old Moparz

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 16, 2006, 06:36:09 PM

Yep, the back of it faces the back yard. I have thought of blasting out the back wall & adding onto it like Troy (Hemi68) did. The only problem is that the ground is lower back there, so I wouldn't be able to have the floor at the same level as my existing one without making it look like it's on stilts. ;D


Hey CF, a somewhat easy approach would be a small pole building & some fill. That's basically what my garage is, & how I took care of the slope in my yard. The ground at the left side of the building was 4 feet lower than the right side. I didn't have to, but I built a retaining wall to hold the fill & not have a slope. I could have just let the fill material run downhill from the wall, but wanted to have a flat space adjacent to place garbage cans, a canoe & whatever.

I put the poles into the ground to a point below the frostline, put up the building & finished filling the gravel until I was at the level of the bottom side of where the concrete floor was going to be. The slab sits on the compacted gravel & the inside of the garage walls acted as the form with some additional stakes in the ground to keep it from bowing outward during the pour. I used a total of 16.5 cubic yards of concrete including the 18 inch apron.

It's 5 inches thick all the way around, & 4 at the apron. (but I ran out of gravel & time the day before the pour & have 7 inches in the front center area.) No sinking or cracks except for one hairline crack on the right side of the building where there's hardly any fill, just 6 to 12 inches of gravel base.



Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 16, 2006, 06:36:09 PM

I just need to pick one thing (garage this year vs. start Charger resto this year) & go for it...that's my biggest problem, I don't stay focused on one direction long enough.


That's one of my biggest problems too.  ::)
               Bob               



              Going Nowhere In A Hurry

Charger_Fan

Quote from: Old Moparz on February 16, 2006, 08:21:57 PM

I put the poles into the ground to a point below the frostline, put up the building & finished filling the gravel until I was at the level of the bottom side of where the concrete floor was going to be. The slab sits on the compacted gravel & the inside of the garage walls acted as the form with some additional stakes in the ground to keep it from bowing outward during the pour. I used a total of 16.5 cubic yards of concrete including the 18 inch apron.

It's 5 inches thick all the way around, & 4 at the apron. (but I ran out of gravel & time the day before the pour & have 7 inches in the front center area.) No sinking or cracks except for one hairline crack on the right side of the building where there's hardly any fill, just 6 to 12 inches of gravel base.
Wow, 16.5 cubic yards on that size of garage? That's not bad at all! Hmmm. :scratchchin:

I think I'll definitely get a for sure quote on what it's gonna cost & decide from there which direction to go. I've liked the pole building idea for quite a while & will more than likely go that direction. A guy can get the most 'bang for his buck' that way.
Thanks for your input.   :icon_smile:

Quote from: Old Moparz on February 16, 2006, 08:21:57 PM

That's one of my biggest problems too.  ::)
Glad I'm not alone. ;D

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Old Moparz

CF, Just take the area (square feet) & multiply by the thickness, then divide by 27 to come up with cubic yards. Mine is 810 sf, by 5" & the apron with the pad at the side door was 66 sf

Garage Floor Area - 810 sf x .42' (5") = 340 cf /27 = 12.6 cy    (Rounded up to 13 cy)
Apron & Pad Area - 69 sf x .33' (4") = 23 cf /27 = .84 cy           (Rounded up to 1 cy)

14 cy planned.

I needed extra concrete to make up for low area I had, & also to allow for any shortage made the last 2.5 cy. You definitely don't want to run out of concrete as you're finishing, & it's easier to order extra & find a spot near the bulding to lose it, like a pad in front of the service entrance door. I had made a form & the little extra we had filled it just right. I think there was only a few bucket fulls left & it went behind the retaining wall. The concrete was also done after mid November, so I had to pay extra for hot water. Keep that in mind if you're trying to save a few bucks here & there.

So I don't hijack this completely, here's some storage ideas. Add a second floor & make lots of shelving.

In Pic #1:  I got these oak library ladders with railings on them from the classified ads for $35 each. I think you'd be able to buy the oak to build one 3 foot ladder for that price. It was easier & cheaper than building stairs for now, & a lot sturdier & cheaper than a pull down, attic scuttle.

In Pic #2:  I have a large shelf on the 1st floor that I can walk under. I will put doors, hoods, deck lids, & other bulky items there when I finish the sheet rock.
               Bob               



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I started w 2 car garage & a slab then a 3. 2 years ago added a steel building to the back of the shop.. out of room... it never ends!
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BigBlockSam

hey
  i have a large 1 car garage with 8 motorcycles in it. so i have 5 mopars under covers outside and work on them laying on the floor. i am selling my houses to build our dream house. with my 50x60x16high pole shed . for my toys and my wifes dream kitchen. with some acreage.  Rene
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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greenpigs

  Well I just bought a place today and it has a two car attached garage with a nice size shed for all the yard junk. A regular size paved driveway and the side of the house has a section of large stone gravel to park on+ storage of wood as it has a wood burning stove. The stone section is behind a 6ft wood privacy fence that encloses the back yard as well. Plus the way the lot is I can add a two car garage later as it allready has access to the back yard. The garage has overhead storage and is wired for 220v with some shelving. Another plus is that its on a dead end street with little traffic, I'm pumped and can't wait to get it all taken care of and move in a few weeks. :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_approve:
 
  I'll post pics of the Charger when I get it to its new home.
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Steve P.

That sounds great.. Congrats.. Now let's see how long it is till you are looking for more nooks and crannies.. I was out of room before I was finished with the shop.. :eyes:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Khyron

congrads, i'l still hunting contractors for my slab at my new place. I'm goign to start with a 24 x 30 foot garage by the looks of things. Then add on later.


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Troy

That's great to hear! :thumbs:

Oh yeah, if you need help moving I sold all my trucks, trailers, and wheelbarrows. I also broke my arm, have a sprained ankle, and I suffer from random dizzy spells. I really doubt if I'll be fully healed until probably the week after you've settled in. Sorry, I really wanted to help you move... :D

Troy
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greenpigs

Thanks guy

Toy man, I know better than to believe you sold something.
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Shakey

Quote from: greenpigs on February 18, 2006, 10:54:48 PM
  Well I just bought a place today and it has a two car attached garage with a nice size shed for all the yard junk. A regular size paved driveway and the side of the house has a section of large stone gravel to park on+ storage of wood as it has a wood burning stove. The stone section is behind a 6ft wood privacy fence that encloses the back yard as well. Plus the way the lot is I can add a two car garage later as it allready has access to the back yard. The garage has overhead storage and is wired for 220v with some shelving. Another plus is that its on a dead end street with little traffic, I'm pumped and can't wait to get it all taken care of and move in a few weeks. :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_approve:
 
  I'll post pics of the Charger when I get it to its new home.


Good stuff.

Post pics of the place.

BigBlockSam

congrats Greenpigs. good luck with your new home. Rene
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Steve P.

Quote from: Troy on February 19, 2006, 02:59:12 AM
That's great to hear! :thumbs:

Oh yeah, if you need help moving I sold all my trucks, trailers, and wheelbarrows. I also broke my arm, have a sprained ankle, and I suffer from random dizzy spells. I really doubt if I'll be fully healed until probably the week after you've settled in. Sorry, I really wanted to help you move... :D

Troy




That is classic.... ;D
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Charger_Fan

Congrats, Piggy! :cheers: That's gotta feel pretty good. :yesnod:
Let's see some pics!! ;D

Thanks for the tips, Moparz. Now I'm more torn than ever regarding what I want to do. :-\
Oh well, I've got a few months to make up my mind.


The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Old Moparz

Quote from: greenpigs on February 18, 2006, 10:54:48 PM
  Well I just bought a place today and it has a two car attached garage with a nice size shed for all the yard junk. A regular size paved driveway and the side of the house has a section of large stone gravel to park on+ storage of wood as it has a wood burning stove. The stone section is behind a 6ft wood privacy fence that encloses the back yard as well. Plus the way the lot is I can add a two car garage later as it allready has access to the back yard. The garage has overhead storage and is wired for 220v with some shelving. Another plus is that its on a dead end street with little traffic, I'm pumped and can't wait to get it all taken care of and move in a few weeks. :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_approve:
 
  I'll post pics of the Charger when I get it to its new home.



:2thumbs:  Sounds cool.

You gonna paint the place green, or just put green letters on your mailbox that says Green Pigs?


Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 19, 2006, 01:03:08 PM

Thanks for the tips, Moparz. Now I'm more torn than ever regarding what I want to do. :-\
Oh well, I've got a few months to make up my mind.



You're welcome, maybe. :D

I know building mine burned me out for a while, & I didn't want to do anything that required hammers, nails & wood for about a year. That includes finishing the trim work on the garage door openings that still isn't done. :D 
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NHCharger

Hey Pigs, congrats on the new garage and house. you can never have a big enough yard or garage. I just counted today. Including my 2 trailers and backhoe I have 12 vehicles currently on the property :icon_smile_big:
72 Charger- Base Model
68 Charger-R/T Clone
69 Charger Daytona clone
79 Lil Red Express - future money pit
88 Ramcharger 4x4- current money pit
55 Dodge Royal 2 door - wife's money pit
2014 RAM 2500HD Diesel

4402tuff4u

Congrats Green! Show us your mansion when you get a chance! :icon_smile_big:
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greenpigs

QuoteYou gonna paint the place green, or just put green letters on your mailbox that says Green Pigs?

I like that idea, so now I need to find a cartoon pic of a pig to trace so I can paint it on my garage wall.

Quote from: 4402tuff4u on February 21, 2006, 07:19:53 AM
Congrats Green! Show us your mansion when you get a chance! :icon_smile_big:

I wish, its a smaller house but plenty big enough for just me.
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PocketThunder

Quote from: greenpigs on February 21, 2006, 06:19:35 PM
QuoteYou gonna paint the place green, or just put green letters on your mailbox that says Green Pigs?

I like that idea, so now I need to find a cartoon pic of a pig to trace so I can paint it on my garage wall.

Quote from: 4402tuff4u on February 21, 2006, 07:19:53 AM
Congrats Green! Show us your mansion when you get a chance! :icon_smile_big:

I wish, its a smaller house but plenty big enough for just me.

Big enough untill your chicky moves in.. then all you get is the garage, and maybe half the basement...
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

PocketThunder

You got pictures of the new garage yet?  I feel like i'm waiting for my date on prom night and its already 10:30 :icon_smile_blackeye:
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

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greenpigs

Quote from: PocketThunder on March 17, 2006, 11:06:49 AM
You got pictures of the new garage yet?  I feel like i'm waiting for my date on prom night and its already 10:30 :icon_smile_blackeye:

GRRR!!!

  The underwriter wasn't able to process it in time so now the closing will not happen the 20th. Not a real big deal as it will just get pushed back to tues or wed but I am still
HOT!


   No basement, it sits on a slab of concrete and that is what I wanted, after one leaky basement and another that was an underground swimming pool. I lose that storage space but got a shed so I also have a little less grass to cut. :icon_smile_big:
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greenpigs

This time I have some pics, but just what matters, the garage and the side where I could store a car possible two. Also I snagged a pic of my truck, if I remember Andy wanted to see it.






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PocketThunder

"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

ChargerBill

It kills me that I don't even own a house!! >:( But if I did, and when I go to purchase a garage or ability to build a big one will be at the top of my list. In California, especially in places like where i live, a 1,300 sq ft house with a one car garage is going for $400,000 and the house I'm renting now at 1,700 sq ft and 2 car garage is upwards of $550,000...it's crazy around here. I know the same houses in Alabama or Tennessee would be about 50% to 60% the cost...maybe I need to move...
Life is a highway...

greenpigs

Bummer Bill,

You should think about moving...my place is close to 1300 sq ft but with a 2 car garage and I payed a little over 100K.
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Steve P.

Hey Bill, you can do your job from just about anywhere, right? Why not go where you can afford nice weather and a nice place?
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

HAZZARDJOHN

Not to wreck anyones day but I just bought a lot with acreage and a house to be built on it for less than 200,000  ;D It is in the middle of no where but it is also only 25 miles from downtown minneapolis. It will be done in July but for now I will only have two car 24x26 garage so the Charger will stay at my folks until I finish my pole barn! My house I have now only has a 24x24 garage so I barely had enough room for the cadillac and no room to work on a car.

~HJ
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't fix your brakes, but don't worry I made your horn louder."

Charger_Fan


The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Arthu®

Yeah that does look like a very nice place, especially for the price. You just don't have those prices overhere anymore. Congrats.

Arthur
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greenpigs

Thanks guys,

My Charger fills the garage a little to well :rotz: anyways I couldn't afford another project.
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HeavyFuel

Quote from: ChargerBill on April 10, 2006, 05:05:04 PM
It kills me that I don't even own a house!! >:( But if I did, and when I go to purchase a garage or ability to build a big one will be at the top of my list. In California, especially in places like where i live, a 1,300 sq ft house with a one car garage is going for $400,000 and the house I'm renting now at 1,700 sq ft and 2 car garage is upwards of $550,000...it's crazy around here. I know the same houses in Alabama or Tennessee would be about 50% to 60% the cost...maybe I need to move...

How much do pay for rent?

The place you're in right now would get about 100K in my area, depending on it's age and condition.  But you'd have to live in ND.  Who would want to put up with all of our drawbacks?   ;)

550K here would get you a mansion right on the river, on a nice lot with a private dock, and a bunch more. 

We can always use another Mopar nut.  All others can stay away, we like the quiet. ;D

twilt

Quote from: ChargerBill on April 10, 2006, 05:05:04 PM
It kills me that I don't even own a house!! >:( But if I did, and when I go to purchase a garage or ability to build a big one will be at the top of my list. In California, especially in places like where i live, a 1,300 sq ft house with a one car garage is going for $400,000 and the house I'm renting now at 1,700 sq ft and 2 car garage is upwards of $550,000...it's crazy around here. I know the same houses in Alabama or Tennessee would be about 50% to 60% the cost...maybe I need to move...


Bill,  i bought a 1400 sq ft  house on a half acre lot  in the Atlanta suburbs 1 year ago for 97.5k. Job market here is decent , traffic sux. Ford and GM are closing plants, KIA is building a new one.  I dont know how or why people afford to live in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.

Steve P.

From what they have been showing on Fox, I would say it will soon be called (Mexifornia).  :icon_smile_big:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

greenpigs

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greenpigs

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472 R/T SE

Nice digs and you have a yard.  What side of the house is facing the west?  Hopefully not the back, looks like a nice deck for a sauna or some kind of extracurricular activities.  I wish we would have paid more attention to the position of the sun during the day, about 2pm in the summer it's bearing down on our living room until it sets. 
A person's throwing their money away renting.  Our place has more than doubled in less than 10 years.

Congrats piggy.  Another plus is it's a brick home so the big bad wolf won't stand a chance. :devil:

65FuryIII

My current house didn't have a garage, my wife loved it but I wouldn't even look at it for the longest time, for just that reason. She finally got me to look at it, and talking to the real estate agent, we discover that the lack of a garage is what is keeping it from selling. It was in the price range of a 1300 sg ft house with a garage, only it was close to 2,000 sg ft without the garage. I knew that if I bought it with the "I'll build a garage some day" plan it would nver get done. So I got an estimate from a contractor to add an over size garage, and applied for my loan on both the house and garage.  The estimate was way high but I used it anyway. So we got the house and imediately built the garage I wanted, with enough left over to pave the driveway.  Moral of the story, if a garage is part of your criteria for a house, don't rule out looking at houses with no garage, a lot of times that holds the price down, and you can build exactly what you want instead of what someone else wanted.

i'll shut up now.

greenpigs

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