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Muslims claim Lego toy is racist

Started by Drache, January 24, 2013, 12:27:05 PM

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Muslims claim Jabba's Palace Lego toy is racist as it is 'based on iconic mosque in Istanbul'

Lego has been accused of racism by the Turkish community over a Star Wars toy allegedly depicting  a mosque.

The critics claim that the Jabba's Palace model, part of Lego's Star Wars range, offends Muslims as it resembles the Hagia Sophia mosque in Istanbul - one of the world's most renowned mosques.

Members of the Turkish Cultural Community of Austria group also accused the toy manufacturer of depicting Asians as having 'deceitful and criminal personalities'.


Toy: The Jabba's Palace Lego set has been criticised by the Turkish Cultural Community of Austria group, which has described it as offensive to the Muslim community



Criticism: The group has criticised Lego's design saying it resembles the Hagia Sophia mosque in Istanbul, one of the world's most recognisable mosques


The group has released a statement calling for an apology from Lego for its cultural insensitivity.

The Lego set is based on the home of Jabba the Hutt, a central character in the Star Wars series, who lives in a domed palace, with a separated watchtower.

As well as bearing a likeness to the Hagia Sophia mosque, the Turkish group also claimed the toy takes its design from the Jami al-Kabir mosque in Beirut - while the watchtower is said to resemble a minaret.

A post on the community's website contains a picture of the slug-like creature's Lego home, pointing out similarities with the Istanbul mosque.

Outraged Muslims have criticised the toy producer on the community's website, accusing it of deliberately placing contextual errors in the toy.

The case came to light when a Turkish man expressed his dissatisfaction with the toy after it was purchased for his son by a family member.

After investigating, Dr Melissa Günes, General Secretary of the Turkish Cultural Community, said that Lego had been contacted with an official complaint.


Comparisons: A post appeared on the group's website pointing out features of the Lego set and comparing them to the Istanbul mosque


A statement posted on the organisation's website refers to Jabba the Hutt as a 'terrorist' and says that he 'likes to smoke hookah and have his victims killed'.

It adds: 'It is clear that the ugly figure of Jabba and the whole scene smacks of racial prejudice and vulgar insinuations against Asians and Orientals as people with deceitful and criminal personalities.'

The statement says that the figures in the set are made to resemble 'terrorists, criminals and murderers'.

Referring to weapons contained in the set, the statement suggests that the 'combination of temple building and bunker facilities where shots are fired cannot be appropriate for children between 9 and 14 years old'.

It concludes: 'One would expect more empathy and responsibility from a manufacturer of toys that has produced toys and models that are good for teaching for decades.'


Jabba's Palace as depicted in the 1983 Star Wars film Return of the Jedi

The organisation also says it is planning legal action in Austria, Germany and Turkey against the toy firm if it does not get a satisfactory response.

Lego's Katharina Sasse said: 'The Lego Star Wars product Jabba´s Palace does not reflect any actually existing buildings, people, or the mentioned mosque.

'The Lego mini-figures are all modelled on characters from the movie.

'We regret that the product has caused the members of the Turkish cultural community to come to a wrong interpretation, but point out that when designing the product only the fictional content of the Star Wars saga were referred to.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267062/Lego-accused-racism-Turkish-community-say-toy-offensive-based-mosque.html
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"ugly figure of Jabba"......


Damn, now Jabba's offended too.
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Ghoste

I know what they should do.  Everyone who is offended should kill themselves in a defiant show of self sarcifice.  This protest to the world should be done as soon as possible both to teach us a lesson and more importantly (because I am only concerned for the cultural sensitivity) before some other terrible slight against them accidentally occurs.

Cooter

That would work only problem is, they'd mess around and live..Now we have a bunch of Ree-Ree's on the sytem like leeches.
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Drache

FYI the Hagia Sophia was originally built as an Orthodox Church, then became a Catholic Church, then back to Orthodox then FINALLY a Mosque, and now it's a museum....
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Ghoste

I still think they should follow my advice.

mrsskip68

This is stupid!  :slap: Also, did I miss something? "How are Asians depicted as having deceitful and criminal personalities?" Confused..............but not enough to really give a shiite!!!! Lol!

Ram07

Why are you talking about this...someone, somewhere will find something offensive!! :Twocents:

Religion, politics, guns is a  :nono:..right?

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DrHemi

Looks like a boob to me. They should stone their mosque themselves
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Ram07

"Everyone who is offended should kill themselves in a defiant show of self sarcifice"????

Really?

Indygenerallee

Obviously these retards never watched "Return of the Jedi" Id say they need to kill themselves for not being avid Star Wars fans!!  :icon_smile_big:
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JB400

I was reading the article and ended up reading the Victoria's Secret article instead.  I think the Muslim community should just lighten up a little.  There are much more important things to worry about and other things to enjoy like these :drool5: :drool5:

Ram07

Time to get yourself a g/f Stroker...all replies seem to involve bikini chicks....not to mention your gifs....don't wanna see that all the time...work stuff!!
Just sayin'

Indygenerallee

QuoteTime to get yourself a g/f Stroker
X2 or at least a hooker!!  :icon_smile_big:
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Ghoste

Quote from: Ram07 on January 24, 2013, 02:45:02 PM
"Everyone who is offended should kill themselves in a defiant show of self sarcifice"????

Really?

If they truly buy into the notion that a toy is racist and an insult to their heritage, then perhaps such an extreme reaction to such a benign coincidence calls for an extreme response to prove their point.
In other words, my sarcastic suggestion, while potentially solving two problems, is actually meant to illustrate a ridiculous accusation by offering a ludicrous response.

JB400

In that situation, I agree.  That particular culture needs to loosen up and not take everything so seriously.  Much like some people on here.  Some things are meant to be entertainment and too have no real serious meaning.  While I'm sure there was a lack of judgement on the toy maker's fault, there shouldn't be such an extreme sense in urgency of the Muslims to make such a big deal out of Lego's decision to make an accurate depiction of a fairy tale scene.  From a fan's standpoint, I'd want their kit to have a close resemblance to the screenwriters depiction.  If the screenwriter's depiction resembles a real area, that should be more of a compliment than an insult, no matter what characters are in the screenwriters' depiction.



On the note of my posts, get real. I've only made one other post in that nature this month in an appropriate area.  I only made that post to loosen up the thread.  It's probably close enough to getting locked anyway.  I'm sure any Muslim reading this is already pissed off at us anyway. Personally, I wouldn't mind getting to know the culture better.  Unfortunately, they have done very little to try to make a positive impression in my eye.  Maybe it's the media, but all that I'm seeing is a group of people that want to annihilate anybody that doesn't see things their way.  I'm sure I'm not getting the full story, but I'd like to see some better judgements and a better attempt at making peace instead of raising a rucus over a picture or a toy that usually ends in someone meeting an untimely end.  If there is a Muslim that wants to paint me a positive picture of thier culture and beliefs, I'd be happy to sit and listen.  Unfortunately, that entire area has been nothing but a war zone since WW2.  I'm definitely sure that there are good people over there, but information has been misconstrued by the media, the governments, and terrorist organizations.  I for one, will be happy when the mess over there gets resolved, but the way it sounds, that won't happen anytime soon.

Anybody wanting me to get rid of my sig, I'd be happy to oblige.  On the other hand, I'm due for an update. :D

Indygenerallee

QuoteMaybe it's the media, but all that I'm seeing is a group of people that want to annihilate anybody that doesn't see things their way.  I'm sure I'm not getting the full story, but I'd like to see some better judgements and a better attempt at making peace instead of raising a rucus over a picture or a toy that usually ends in someone meeting an untimely end.
No Stroker your right, they want total annihilation of anyone that is not a muslim and anyone that offends Muhammed, it is a religion of hate.
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polywideblock

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 24, 2013, 03:09:38 PM
I was reading the article and ended up reading the Victoria's Secret article instead.  I think the Muslim community should just lighten up a little.  There are much more important things to worry about and other things to enjoy like these :drool5: :drool5:
watch out they will be offended by all that naked flesh and start calling the ladies names that can't be repeated . you should hear these clowns walking around bondi beach in there dresses calling the girls in bikinis tarts and a lot of other unrepeatable names


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I for one would really like an "ask a Muslim" thread. I feel the need to understand them. My current philosophy is much the same as many others: Why the violence? Where does their religion state violence against us? I'm not too stupid to learn, to live with each other, to respect someone's beliefs. The only thing they're doing with the hate is turning up my eyebrow anytime one is near and take notice...because quite honestly, I need to be ready for anything, and that's a shitty way to have to feel.
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polywideblock

apparently the Koran says that they are supposed to respect everyone of the"book" this includes all religions the use the bible etc etc anyone  who has a holy book. 


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greenpigs

They need to move on and focus on things that matter, not a toy.

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Ghoste

In this case, I'm not even looking at them as Muslims really but just another flavor of extremist.  If Jabba's palace looked vaguely reminiscient of the Vatican and Jabba had a head shaped just enough like the headgear on the Pope, there would be some Catholic defamation league demanding justice.  If the palace had the look of the Boar's Nest and Jabba wore white someone would be pissed about that too.  My being offended by their offendedness could even be an example I suppose.
The bottom line is that people are morons especially when they get in groups and this particular cabal of Lego haters are illustrating that beautifully. 

Cooter

Quote from: Ghoste on January 25, 2013, 06:37:14 AM
If the palace had the look of the Boar's Nest and Jabba wore white someone would be pissed about that too. 

Dammit, now Boss Hogg is offended....
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Mike DC

  
Reading WAY too much into something like this  . . . it's not exactly unique to the Muslim world.



Last summer Rush Limbaugh was complaining with a straight face that the "Bane" villian in the new Batman movie was a reference to something in Mitt Romney's corporate life.  

I guess nobody told him that the character has been around for decades, the filmmakers of the recent Batman shows actually have conservative leanings, and they started working on that movie years before Romney was even chosen as the candidate.



Not to take this topic into American politics.  
I'm just saying some people are always finding goofy things to get offended about, regardless of the culture.


Ghoste


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Too bad if they think so, the Hagia Sophia started off as a Christian Cathedral..
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Drache

Quote from: hemi68charger on January 25, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Too bad if they think so, the Hagia Sophia started off as a Christian Cathedral..

Orthodox actually :p
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Quote from: Patronus on January 25, 2013, 12:24:55 AM
I for one would really like an "ask a Muslim" thread. I feel the need to understand them.

I learned all I cared to know about them on Sept 11, 2001. There is nothing else they need to say as far as I'm concerned.
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I learned all I cared to know about them on Sept 11, 2001. There is nothing else they need to say as far as I'm concerned.


Oh please.  Don't be childish.  


You don't have to believe that their culture has all the same tolerance & good points as ours.  But that culture is hundreds of millions of people.  They are not all suicide bombers.




Cooter

I wonder if they have as many School shooters as we do? :-\
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Tilar

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on January 25, 2013, 12:15:04 PM
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I learned all I cared to know about them on Sept 11, 2001. There is nothing else they need to say as far as I'm concerned.


Oh please.  Don't be childish.  


You don't have to believe that their culture has all the same tolerance & good points as ours.  But that culture is hundreds of millions of people.  They are not all suicide bombers.





All of them are the same. Just because not ever one of them have bombs strapped under their skirt doesnt mean they don't condone the actions. The day I see the Muslims city of Mecca allow a Christian church and a Jewish synagogue to be built, is the day I will believe Islam desrves an opinion other than what I wrote above.  Until that happens, Islam is just another intolerant fascist political cult that belongs in the dustbin of history.

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Drache

Quote from: Tilar on January 25, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
All of them are the same. Just because not ever one of them have bombs strapped under their skirt doesnt mean they don't condone the actions. The day I see the Muslims city of Mecca allow a Christian church and a Jewish synagogue to be built, is the day I will believe Islam desrves an opinion other than what I wrote above.  Until that happens, Islam is just another intolerant fascist political cult that belongs in the dustbin of history.



Do you know Muslims? I do. And they are appalled at what some of the radicals in the Islamic faith are doing. Not all of them are the same. Just like Christianity, there are radicals who go out of their way to do horrible things.

Calling all Muslims Terrorists is like me calling all Christians members of the Klu-Klux-Klan.
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Tilar

Quote from: Drache on January 25, 2013, 02:25:22 PM
Quote from: Tilar on January 25, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
All of them are the same. Just because not ever one of them have bombs strapped under their skirt doesnt mean they don't condone the actions. The day I see the Muslims city of Mecca allow a Christian church and a Jewish synagogue to be built, is the day I will believe Islam desrves an opinion other than what I wrote above.  Until that happens, Islam is just another intolerant fascist political cult that belongs in the dustbin of history.



Do you know Muslims? I do. And they are appalled at what some of the radicals in the Islamic faith are doing. Not all of them are the same. Just like Christianity, there are radicals who go out of their way to do horrible things.

Calling all Muslims Terrorists is like me calling all Christians members of the Klu-Klux-Klan.

It wasn't the Christians that started the Klu-Klux-Klan, it was a political group... Same ones who didn't want slavery to end.
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Drache

Quote from: Tilar on January 25, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
It wasn't the Christians that started the Klu-Klux-Klan, it was a political group... Same ones who didn't want slavery to end.

The KKK is still classified as a "Christian Terrorist" group by the FBI.

Anyways lets explain it like this. You know the bible right? Old Testament, New Testament. Islam is the same way. You have the Qur'an. It's split up into two parts, the Old Qur'an and the New Qur'an.

The Old Qur'an is peaceful. Mohammed was at peace and preached peace. Then he went bonkers and wrote the New Qur'an. The Newest one preached violence to those who aren't Muslim. He wrote that the new Qur'an superseded the old Qur'an and the old one doesn't count anymore.

But you still have people of the Islamic faith who believe the violent New Qur'an doesn't count. These are the people who want peace. Then you have the radicals who believe the peaceful Old Qur'an is a joke and blindly follow the New Qur'an. These are those doing the terrorist acts.
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I better snatch this set up.....

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I think this sums it up well...I rest my case!


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bull

Quote from: mrsskip68 on January 26, 2013, 02:39:43 AM
That's so sad.............. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I know, right? Wait, you're talking about the plane aren't you?

bull

Quote from: Drache on January 25, 2013, 10:58:36 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on January 25, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Too bad if they think so, the Hagia Sophia started off as a Christian Cathedral..

Orthodox actually :p

You do know that Orthodox IS Christian, right?

Drache

Quote from: bull on January 26, 2013, 03:06:27 PM
Quote from: Drache on January 25, 2013, 10:58:36 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on January 25, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Too bad if they think so, the Hagia Sophia started off as a Christian Cathedral..

Orthodox actually :p

You do know that Orthodox IS Christian, right?

Yes Orthodox is a form of Christianity but there are differences between Christianity and Orthodox Christianity. Just like Roman Catholic is a form of Christianity but there are differences.

The Hagia Sophia was an Eastern Orthodox Cathedral from 537–1204, Catholic Church Cathedral 1204–1261, back to an Eastern Orthodox Cathedral 1261–1453, then an Imperial Mosque 1453–1931. It's currently a museum.
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Tilar

Quote from: Drache on January 25, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
Quote from: Tilar on January 25, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
It wasn't the Christians that started the Klu-Klux-Klan, it was a political group... Same ones who didn't want slavery to end.

The KKK is still classified as a "Christian Terrorist" group by the FBI.


  How about you link your source for that, including the file classification number that goes with it because the current FBI classification list has no such thing as a christian terrorist group on it.
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Drache

Quote from: Tilar on January 27, 2013, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: Drache on January 25, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
Quote from: Tilar on January 25, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
It wasn't the Christians that started the Klu-Klux-Klan, it was a political group... Same ones who didn't want slavery to end.

The KKK is still classified as a "Christian Terrorist" group by the FBI.


 How about you link your source for that, including the file classification number that goes with it because the current FBI classification list has no such thing as a christian terrorist group on it.

Just something my teacher had said back in Law when we were studying the Klu-Klux-Klan.

If it's not true then oh well.

The KKK is classified as a terrorist organization according to the FBI. And the KKK is a Christian Terrorist Organization.

And if you want proof that the Klu-Klux-Klan are "Christian terrorists"... the KKK's goal is to "reestablish Protestant Christian values in America by any means possible," and they use terrorist acts to do so. They burned crosses not only to scare people but also signified their beliefs in Jesus who died upon the cross.

Then you have the Army of God who blow up abortion clinics and crap like that all because they believe abortion is a sin. Then you have the Lambs of Christ.

Read the book Inside Terrorism by Hoffman. Talks all about Religious Terrorism and talks about the KKK, Lambs of Christ, Army of God, as well as the Islamic terrorists. It's required reading in some courses.

This report, "Counterterrorism Threat Assessment and Warning Unit National Security Division", doesn't talk about the KKK but does talk about a couple other Terrorist groups with Christian values.
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terror_96.pdf


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Terrorist organizations always try to align themselves with widely-supported mainstream things like religions & nationalities.  It's standard procedure with groups like that.  You see it worldwide, past and present.  


 

Ghoste

Align themselves with or spin themselves off from?

Bob T

This got emailed to me this morning, I dont usually reply to these types of threads but this, in my humble view is relevant.

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Thought you might like to read this letter to the editor of a British national newspaper. Ever notice how some people just seem to know how to write a letter?.   
Here is a woman who should run for Prime Minister!


Written by a housewife, to her daily newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.

'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 112001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in Washington, and in downtown Manhattan ,  and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:

I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:

I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner - who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my taxes - is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:

I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, believe me!! You guessed it ........

I don't care!!

If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous Behaviour!

If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country! And may I add:

'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world.  Our soldiers don't have that problem.'

I have another quote that I would like to add, AND.......I hope you forward all this.

Only six defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

1. Jesus Christ

2.  The British Soldier.

3. The Canadian Soldier.

4. The US Soldier,


5. The New Zealand Soldier

6. The Australian Soldier

One died for your soul, the other 5 for your freedom.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT ALL OF THEM.


AMEN!

GIVE THIS LADY A STANDING OVATION. SHE HAS INDEED TICKED ALL THE BOXES Isn't it interesting that so many people in the Western World feel this way, but not one of our politicians, who are supposed to represent us, ever have the guts to state the situation like it is ???
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You're right Bob, That is very relevant.  :2thumbs:


Dave  

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hemigeno

Quote from: Bob T on January 27, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
This got emailed to me this morning, I dont usually reply to these types of threads but this, in my humble view is relevant.

Debunked now for over two years, but apparently still making the rounds:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/foster.asp



Drache

Quote from: hemigeno on January 28, 2013, 01:52:27 PM
Quote from: Bob T on January 27, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
This got emailed to me this morning, I dont usually reply to these types of threads but this, in my humble view is relevant.

Debunked now for over two years, but apparently still making the rounds:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/foster.asp




It doesn't matter who said it or if someone really did say it. It's the message that is important!  :2thumbs:
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Quote from: Drache on January 28, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on January 28, 2013, 01:52:27 PM
Quote from: Bob T on January 27, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
This got emailed to me this morning, I dont usually reply to these types of threads but this, in my humble view is relevant.

Debunked now for over two years, but apparently still making the rounds:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/foster.asp




It doesn't matter who said it or if someone really did say it. It's the message that is important!  :2thumbs:


Facts? Who give's a rat's ass about facts when you can just make things up & get everyone to follow you into the forest with torches to chase the bogeyman?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/16/curveball-rafid-ahmed-alw_n_824175.html
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moparstuart

if its on the internet its true  !!!!!
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Tilar

Someone wrote it and I'm betting a lot more people feel that way than doesn't..
Dave  

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Old Moparz

Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
Someone wrote it and I'm betting a lot more people feel that way than doesn't..


True, someone wrote it but someone also wrote Mein Kampf.
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Tilar

Quote from: Old Moparz on January 28, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
Someone wrote it and I'm betting a lot more people feel that way than doesn't..


True, someone wrote it but someone also wrote Mein Kampf.

Also true, someone did write it, but you won't find many other than maybe the current occupant of the oval office, that thinks Mein Kampf has merit.
Dave  

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Old Moparz

Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on January 28, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
Someone wrote it and I'm betting a lot more people feel that way than doesn't..


True, someone wrote it but someone also wrote Mein Kampf.

Also true, someone did write it, but you won't find many other than maybe the current occupant of the oval office, that thinks Mein Kampf has merit.



Well, you've automatically drawn the discussion to a complete close with such a brilliant racism analogy.

Congrats on getting another thread one step closer to being locked.
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mauve66

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 24, 2013, 08:53:19 PM
In that situation, I agree.  That particular culture needs to loosen up and not take everything so seriously.  Much like some people on here.  Some things are meant to be entertainment and too have no real serious meaning.  While I'm sure there was a lack of judgement on the toy maker's fault, there shouldn't be such an extreme sense in urgency of the Muslims to make such a big deal out of Lego's decision to make an accurate depiction of a fairy tale scene.  From a fan's standpoint, I'd want their kit to have a close resemblance to the screenwriters depiction.  If the screenwriter's depiction resembles a real area, that should be more of a compliment than an insult, no matter what characters are in the screenwriters' depiction.



On the note of my posts, get real. I've only made one other post in that nature this month in an appropriate area.  I only made that post to loosen up the thread.  It's probably close enough to getting locked anyway.  I'm sure any Muslim reading this is already pissed off at us anyway. Personally, I wouldn't mind getting to know the culture better.  Unfortunately, they have done very little to try to make a positive impression in my eye.  Maybe it's the media, but all that I'm seeing is a group of people that want to annihilate anybody that doesn't see things their way.  I'm sure I'm not getting the full story, but I'd like to see some better judgements and a better attempt at making peace instead of raising a rucus over a picture or a toy that usually ends in someone meeting an untimely end.  If there is a Muslim that wants to paint me a positive picture of thier culture and beliefs, I'd be happy to sit and listen.  Unfortunately, that entire area has been nothing but a war zone since WW2.  I'm definitely sure that there are good people over there, but information has been misconstrued by the media, the governments, and terrorist organizations.  I for one, will be happy when the mess over there gets resolved, but the way it sounds, that won't happen anytime soon.

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Another war front in the battle of terrorists. Just another example that these terrorists aren't supported by all muslims

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Quote from: Old Moparz on January 28, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on January 28, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
Someone wrote it and I'm betting a lot more people feel that way than doesn't..


True, someone wrote it but someone also wrote Mein Kampf.

Also true, someone did write it, but you won't find many other than maybe the current occupant of the oval office, that thinks Mein Kampf has merit.



Well, you've automatically drawn the discussion to a complete close with such a brilliant racism analogy.

How about you tell me exactly which part of that was racist?
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Quote from: Tilar on January 29, 2013, 05:20:06 AM

Quote from: Old Moparz on January 28, 2013, 06:24:02 PM

Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 06:13:28 PM

Quote from: Old Moparz on January 28, 2013, 05:39:36 PM

Quote from: Tilar on January 28, 2013, 05:28:57 PM

Someone wrote it and I'm betting a lot more people feel that way than doesn't..



True, someone wrote it but someone also wrote Mein Kampf.


Also true, someone did write it, but you won't find many other than maybe the current occupant of the oval office, that thinks Mein Kampf has merit.




Well, you've automatically drawn the discussion to a complete close with such a brilliant racism analogy.


How about you tell me exactly which part of that was racist?



Okay, first thing I'll clarify is my own error. (And no, I'm not back pedaling by the way. I still think your comments in this thread are blatantly racist & very offensive.) What I should have typed before the words "racism analogy" was.....

"Well, you've automatically drawn the discussion to a complete close with such a brilliant post about my racism analogy."

That analogy was an actual reference to the first post that I made, the one about Mein Kampf being written by a racist, the same as the fictional racist letter that's circulating the internet regarding Muslims. The part where I said that your post was brilliant was simply sarcasm.

I worked with a guy for about 10 years who is originally from Iran. I also have a neighbor that I've lived just a couple of houses away from for 23 years who is originally from Pakistan. Both are Muslim & neither have any resentment against the USA. I've been out to lunch with the coworker who insisted on paying many times & I've sat & talked with my neighbor at block parties we have every year. I've gotten to know both of them & find the stuff that you, as well as several others spew from your keyboard, to be very offensive.

Hope that clarifies things.
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Ok, so the letter/email thing is debunked, I cannot verify where or when it was written, but the tone of it is not completely just some internet sheep thing either. Some of the points raised have merit. There are of course extremists on both sides and there is no gold plated solution to resolve it or many other current conflicts found the globe. Israel/ Palestine for instance.                                                          I may not agree with all of the reasons why the troops are over there doing their day jobs, but I still support the troops. Some of them including the NZ regiment are involved in rebuilding efforts, schools,public buildings,  bridges etc which can only serve to benefit the local population.
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Quote from: Old Moparz on January 29, 2013, 01:30:18 PM

Okay, first thing I'll clarify is my own error. (And no, I'm not back pedaling by the way. I still think your comments in this thread are blatantly racist & very offensive.)


Hope that clarifies things.

Again, what exactly did I type out that is racist in any way? Maybe a quote of that post would work.  If me stating that I don't like Islam is offensive to someone then that is their problem, not mine... but nothing I wrote was racist.  Hell I'm still trying to figure out how Mein Kampf relates to this in any way.  :shruggy:
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