Who's car?

[Chargen69]

Car is nice! And on the show most of the jump cars were big blocks 400's or 440's (a few 383's) the small block cars just did not have the torque to get the car up to speed quick enough for the jumps, all the other set cars were small blocks 318 or 360. And as far as the weight used in the trunk the first one had concrete but the rest used weight plates (similar to tractor weights) That they had a rack welded to the cage and the weights were chained to the rack. (I have seen numerous pics from Don Schisler with this setup)

um no, i think i heard somewhere that only one jump car on the SHOW was a big block, for the reasons mentioned above, it wasnt a race, they backed the cars up as far as they needed to to get the speed they wanted.

[Indygenerallee]

Well your wrong, Tom Sarmento has said that most of the jump cars were big blocks, no joke they were not trying to "race" it was more about the TORQUE to get it up to speed quick enough while it would have taken a small block car twice the distance.

[skip68]

I can say for a fact they were small block cars for the most part being that I was one of the drivers.     Some of the cars even had chevy 350's in them.        I remember jumping one of the cars that had a modified VW engine in it.  Man that car was fast.   

[moparstuart]

I'd say $26k to $28k.     

25 k

[Chargen69]

Well your wrong, Tom Sarmento has said that most of the jump cars were big blocks, no joke they were not trying to "race" it was more about the TORQUE to get it up to speed quick enough while it would have taken a small block car twice the distance.

exactly they were not trying to race, thanks for making my point, it didnt matter, they could have jumped a car with any motor, it didnt have to be a big block, do you not understand science, it was already mentioned in this thread that the bigger the weight in the front meant the car would nose down harder

[Mike DC]

Taking a long space to get up to speed . . . that's all well and good, as long as you always have several hundred yards of flat straight paved road leading up to the jump.   But the DOH crew didn't always have that nice ideal situation every time the director pointed to some creek or obstacle and said "we're gonna jump over this."  Sometimes there wasn't any road at all.  

If you've ever seen a GL jump in person and visited the actual filming locations from the Cali shows you get why this was a problem.  They needed acceleration space to get a (700+lbs overloaded) car up to 50-70mph + 100-200 feet for the jump itself + runoff space for a wrecked car that might not even have brakes working anymore = a LONG straight space is required for a jump.    




DOH mainly used 383/727 cars.  440s and 318s were used sometimes but the 383 cars outnumbered all the others.

They also starting using nitrous on some of the jump cars in the later seasons.  It was necessary for a jump at one point, and once they had bought & learned the nitrous setup they began using it on some other jumps too.

   

[Indygenerallee]

exactly they were not trying to race, thanks for making my point, it didnt matter, they could have jumped a car with any motor, it didnt have to be a big block, do you not understand science, it was already mentioned in this thread that the bigger the weight in the front meant the car would nose down harder

Your real bright, I am pretty sure I know what I am talking about as I have read numerous accounts from the stuntmen and even Tom Sarmento, Granted there were more small block cars but they did use more than "ONE" big block car for jumps, and I already stated the weights used. Im done discussing it.

[Daytona Guy]

Well at least it has a big block. I have 318 general lee's...And that is a joke by itself

I'd bet a majority of the general lees that you actually see jumping and stunting were 318 cars

You're right. They liked the 318 cars because the front end wouldn't nose down as bad as the big blocks!

How true are these physics? By "law" everything drops at the same rate – regardless of weight. So regardless, if a 318, 383, or 440 is being used, the front end will fall (nose down) at the same rate (if it is inclined to do so). Weight does not determine the "rate of fall". Weight (of the engine) may make more of a difference in how the suspension holds up when you hit the ramp, which may determine how the car leaves the ramp. The suspension springs the nose up as it leaves the ramp that affects the nose down or nose up.

Law of Physics: "everything falls at 9.8 meters per second initially. Meaning = that the speed increases by 9.8 meters per second, every second. After 2 seconds it's 19.6 m/sec, after 3 it's 29.4, etc - A law can't be argued with

Dane

[bull]

Is that thing red? It looks red to me.

[Daytona Guy]

Is that thing red? It looks red to me.

Thats what I was thinks too. Having had that color, a cloudy day made it look Rally Red.

[bill440rt]

I sure am glad the new season of American Idol started up. 

[skip68]

Me to. 

[Mike DC]

How true are these physics? By "law" everything drops at the same rate – regardless of weight. So regardless, if a 318, 383, or 440 is being used, the front end will fall (nose down) at the same rate (if it is inclined to do so). Weight does not determine the "rate of fall". Weight (of the engine) may make more of a difference in how the suspension holds up when you hit the ramp, which may determine how the car leaves the ramp. The suspension springs the nose up as it leaves the ramp that affects the nose down or nose up.

I think the weight has more to do with stabilizing the rearend's behavior than anything else.  Without it, the rear half of the car springs back upwards more after hitting the ramp.  (And those cars HIT the ramps hard.)  The rear leaf springs & bumpstops & tires don't exert as much of a rebound effect with a big wad of mass in the trunk.  



When Baja desert racers first started really jumping their trucks, they found that shock absorber rebound rates had a big effect on the attitude in-flight.  

But it's a different ballgame for a production car that is slamming into short/steep ramps.  The factory suspension is so totally overmatched for the job . . .  you might as well visualize the car doing the jump with the springs/shocks missing entirely.  And that is most definitely true for the landing.  

[marshallfry01]

I think it's a very nice replica, but I just get annoyed by these outrageous "asking prices." that's the only reason I started this thread, just to see what the non general lee haters thought it was worth.    I would buy it for the right price, but it's about 18-22k to much IMHO.

[Daytona Guy]

I think it's a very nice replica, but I just get annoyed by these outrageous "asking prices." that's the only reason I started this thread, just to see what the non general lee haters thought it was worth.    I would buy it for the right price, but it's about 18-22k to much IMHO.

Take the dukes stuff off and you get a really nice Charger. What are they going for now? It sure looks like it could bring 25,000 to 30,000 on its own. What has someone sold their nice 69 for?

Dane

[Cooter]

That's just it.....The General Lee stuff sometimes bring MORE than a "plain jane" Charger for some folks. This is obviously who this person is aiming at. You don't ask what a GL is worth from a purists point of view.

[ACUDANUT]

I agree. 
I like Genreal Lee's done right.