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Help with a purchase price please

Started by hotrod05, January 18, 2013, 11:46:23 AM

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hotrod05

My heart was really set on a 68 charger R/T. I put a post in cars wanted with no response as of yet. Here is my question, I have been in contact with someone who has a 69 R/T. I have a slight preferance to the 68 because I like the front grill and the tail lights a little more than the 69's . So I wanted to try to post a facebook page that you can see the pics of the 69. This is not a numbers matching engine or trans but I wanted to get a idea on a price that I should offer if I would decide to try to purchase this car. I'm trying to find out if he has pictures of the restoration but the by the pics on this page it looks very nice. So the question is would you hold out for the 68, they are hard to find. or try to get this 69 that is close to me. Im not looking to purchase for a few months just to try and see if a 68 will show up. but this might be a option as there are just not a lot of these cars left and the market has gone down so people are reluctant to sell their car. Thanks    http://www.facebook.com/charger.rt.566/photos_stream

DC_1

Looks pretty good by the pics IMO

I see he has pics of the build sheet and fender tag........ Im thinking $30-38k if he isn't desperate to sell.

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

When I was looking for a 69, I found a 68 and bought it... Never really loved the car, just liked it a lot.

When I was looking for a 69, again, all I found were 68s, but held out, then found one, then another... I would buy another, for the right price...

The car in the pics looks to me like it was "restored" by a Chevy guy. There are some things which do not look to be typical Mopar build patterns. But I'd give 30k for that car, if the numbers matched.

jar1292

There are guys on here that "hold out" for years waiting for the one to come. Its just the fact of are you "settling for another" and if you are will, you be happy or will it always nag at you in your sleep. I would say if you want just a driver and not plan a full restore then buy a 69' and wait for your 98' to come along. if you find one to buy, you might find yourself torn between selling your 69' to fund the 68' or you may keep it, buy the 98' and then go all out and buy a 70'  :D
Restoring a charger is like a saying I heard along time ago "I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be worth it".... Jesus I wish I could remember who said that...

The70RT

Quote from: jar1292 on January 18, 2013, 12:07:08 PM
There are guys on here that "hold out" for years waiting for the one to come. Its just the fact of are you "settling for another" and if you are will, you be happy or will it always nag at you in your sleep. I would say if you want just a driver and not plan a full restore then buy a 69' and wait for your 98' to come along. if you find one to buy, you might find yourself torn between selling your 69' to fund the 68' or you may keep it, buy the 98' and then go all out and buy a 70'  :D

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DC_1

Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on January 18, 2013, 12:04:44 PM
The car in the pics looks to me like it was "restored" by a Chevy guy. There are some things which do not look to be typical Mopar build patterns.

Really? Like what?

I know it was mentioned to not have the original motor but it does have a 4 speed, console, and Dana rear end. The car seems to be reasonably restored.....I think it definitely worth in the high $30k range.


moparstuart

35 k and the shifter knob is horrible
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

johnnyseville

IF # match, offer 30K, they are worth more than the 68.
too many to list!

Dino

Hold out for the '68.  Never settle.  Plenty 68's out there and cheaper than 69's.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Homerr

FWIW this car was on Ebay several times over the summer, never met reserve.

hotrod05

Thanks, I just needed a little help. My search for the 68 R/T will go on and i'm hoping to be able to post picks as soon as I find one.

Dino

Quote from: hotrod05 on January 18, 2013, 03:06:12 PM
Thanks, I just needed a little help. My search for the 68 R/T will go on and i'm hoping to be able to post picks as soon as I find one.

Where are you?  I'll keep an eye open for one.  They tend to pop up from time to time in metro Detroit.

Oh and save yourself some time and headaches and look for private sales only, don't bother with dealers.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

hotrod05

I'm in Pennsylvania. I do have a post in the cars wanted section that is titled 68 charger R/T. Thanks again. Any one looking for the 69 R/T on the facebook page I posted, He wanted 45k 6 months ago. It was on ebay at that time. He contacted me about 2 weeks ago to let me know he might be able to come down a little. If anyone else is interested you can pm me for a phone number. The 69 is also in Pa.

Dans 68

Quote from: Dino on January 18, 2013, 02:33:19 PM
Hold out for the '68.  Never settle.  Plenty 68's out there and cheaper than 69's.

What he said.   :yesnod:  Oh, and they look better too....   ;)

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

1970Moparmann

Hold off for the 68 that you want.  Just keep your eyes open.  If you find something, many people on this board will help you.  If I see anything in the Midwest, I'll let you know.   What until March and you should see more cars coming on the market.

My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

Dino

Hotrod, be sure to place a wanted ad on Craigslist as well.  It took me a few months but it's how I found mine.  Tucked away in a garage 30 minutes from my house.

There's a few 68's in my area and although one is a rare 383 4 speed, no R/T's at the moment but I'll keep an eye open.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Dans 68

Quote from: Dino on January 19, 2013, 07:28:37 AM

There's a few 68's in my area and although one is a rare 383 4 speed, no R/T's at the moment but I'll keep an eye open.

Really? For Sale? Do you have any info/contact info for that car? I'm always looking for 'em to add to my registry.   ;)

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 19, 2013, 12:27:09 AM
Hold off for the 68 that you want.  Just keep your eyes open.  If you find something, many people on this board will help you.  If I see anything in the Midwest, I'll let you know.   What until March and you should see more cars coming on the market.




tax man cometh......

Dino

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 21, 2013, 01:09:32 AM
Quote from: Dino on January 19, 2013, 07:28:37 AM

There's a few 68's in my area and although one is a rare 383 4 speed, no R/T's at the moment but I'll keep an eye open.

Really? For Sale? Do you have any info/contact info for that car? I'm always looking for 'em to add to my registry.   ;)

Dan

There you go Dan!

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/3476198637.html

I told the seller last summer his tailpanel was painted wrong and he replied he was going to have it fixed.  Not sure if he ever did.  This car's been for sale for a long time.

Here's a few more in my area:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ctd/3487752429.html  (this is the overpriced one I started a post about)

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ctd/3481116342.html

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/3434294657.html

http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/3544229744.html
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

1970Moparmann

Anyone know if this is true? 

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

bakerhillpins

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

That QQ1 68 4spd has been for sale since at least 09.  It was the first car I looked at in 10.  I can find the thread with the report on it if you like.  Yes the claim of 1 in 6 is valid. Just was crappie body work and way over priced.

I love the fender tag though.  I would buy it if i won the lottery
One great wife (Life is good)
14 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi Crew Cab (crap hauler)
69 Dodge Charger R/T, Q5, C6X, V1X, V88  (Life is WAY better)
96' VFR750 (Sweet)
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"Inspiration is for amateurs - the rest of us just show up and get to work." -Chuck Close
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein
Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

1970Moparmann

Quote from: bakerhillpins on January 21, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

That QQ1 68 4spd has been for sale since at least 09.  It was the first car I looked at in 10.  I can find the thread with the report on it if you like.  Yes the claim of 1 in 6 is valid. Just was crappie body work and way over priced.

I love the fender tag though.  I would buy it if i won the lottery

Interesting...  What makes it 1 of 6?
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

1974dodgecharger

wow BP thats crazy you figure he would lower the price since it aint selling for so long!!!  Damn!

Quote from: bakerhillpins on January 21, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

That QQ1 68 4spd has been for sale since at least 09.  It was the first car I looked at in 10.  I can find the thread with the report on it if you like.  Yes the claim of 1 in 6 is valid. Just was crappie body work and way over priced.

I love the fender tag though.  I would buy it if i won the lottery

Dans 68

Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on January 21, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

That QQ1 68 4spd has been for sale since at least 09.  It was the first car I looked at in 10.  I can find the thread with the report on it if you like.  Yes the claim of 1 in 6 is valid. Just was crappie body work and way over priced.

I love the fender tag though.  I would buy it if i won the lottery

Interesting...  What makes it 1 of 6?


A/C with a big block and a 4-speed. Only with the 383 4-bbl could you have a manual transmission and air conditioning. Not an option with the R/T's and 383 2-bbl.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Dino

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

Yep Ann Arbor, I work for the University of Michigan health center so technically I'm the competition.   :icon_smile_big:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Ghoste

I didn't know Ann Arbor either, for some reason I thought you were in metro Detroit somewhere like Warren or Troy out that way.

bakerhillpins

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 22, 2013, 04:09:31 AM
A/C with a big block and a 4-speed. Only with the 383 4-bbl could you have a manual transmission and air conditioning. Not an option with the R/T's and 383 2-bbl.

Dan

:2thumbs:

Quote from: Ghoste on January 22, 2013, 08:35:28 AM
I didn't know Ann Arbor either, for some reason I thought you were in metro Detroit somewhere like Warren or Troy out that way.

I think you are thinking of TUFCAT??

I need to find an excuse to go out to visit these guys during the Dream Cruse...  :drool5:
One great wife (Life is good)
14 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi Crew Cab (crap hauler)
69 Dodge Charger R/T, Q5, C6X, V1X, V88  (Life is WAY better)
96' VFR750 (Sweet)
Capt. Lyme Vol. Fire

"Inspiration is for amateurs - the rest of us just show up and get to work." -Chuck Close
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein
Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

Dino

Quote from: Ghoste on January 22, 2013, 08:35:28 AM
I didn't know Ann Arbor either, for some reason I thought you were in metro Detroit somewhere like Warren or Troy out that way.

Spike's from Warren but I haven't seen him here in years.

And technically Ann Arbor is metro Detroit.   :icon_smile_big:



Quote from: bakerhillpins on January 22, 2013, 08:47:27 AM
I think you are thinking of TUFCAT??

I need to find an excuse to go out to visit these guys during the Dream Cruse...  :drool5:

Tuffy's in Plymouth, a bit closer to the D.

I don't do the dream cruise, it's insanely crowded but I will definitely meet up with you if you're coming this way.   :yesnod:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Ghoste

Yeah, I've been to Tufcat's but not any of the other Motor City members that I recall.

472 R/T SE

bakerhillpins, you're out jb666's way correct?

bakerhillpins

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on January 22, 2013, 11:47:42 AM
bakerhillpins, you're out jb666's way correct?

Yea, He is a few hours from me in MA. I am in NH.
One great wife (Life is good)
14 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi Crew Cab (crap hauler)
69 Dodge Charger R/T, Q5, C6X, V1X, V88  (Life is WAY better)
96' VFR750 (Sweet)
Capt. Lyme Vol. Fire

"Inspiration is for amateurs - the rest of us just show up and get to work." -Chuck Close
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein
Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

Dans 68

To get this topic back on track ( ;)) - I have this car in my files already. I've attached the fender tag for laughs and giggles....

Nice car, no doubt.  :yesnod:  It would be my '68 "XP" first choice.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

1974dodgecharger

dino,
hahaha..small world man.  They get some famous people at this hospital though (cant name names), but of course they are on the detroit pistols basketball of course among other sports stars that come in there lol
Quote from: Dino on January 22, 2013, 07:34:34 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

Yep Ann Arbor, I work for the University of Michigan health center so technically I'm the competition.   :icon_smile_big:

Dino

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 22, 2013, 08:25:59 PM
dino,
hahaha..small world man.  They get some famous people at this hospital though (cant name names), but of course they are on the detroit pistols basketball of course among other sports stars that come in there lol

Same story here, plenty celebs but of course, I too cannot name names...and believe me I'd love to bragg.   :icon_smile_big:


Quote from: Dino on January 22, 2013, 07:34:34 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 21, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Anyone know if this is true?  

1968 Charger 383 4spd. 1-of-259 (1 of 6 A/C)

This car has been for sale for a long time.  I asked this question last time I saw this.

yup, saw on craigs now for a year!!!  Why does it not sell I dont know?  The price point is probably out of alot of peoples leagues.  Sweet spot would be 25k!!!  Then everyone snatches it up, who knows  :scratchchin:

Dino,
didnt know you were near Detroit man!  I have family there......one works at baumont hospital area....

Yep Ann Arbor, I work for the University of Michigan health center so technically I'm the competition.   :icon_smile_big:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

1974dodgecharger

the question is dan is it worth his asking price?

I just saw some pics of it and to be honest I was not impressed based on price.  The exterior in his craigs ad is awesome I think, but then you look deeper and it dont look as good.
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 22, 2013, 01:41:45 PM
To get this topic back on track ( ;)) - I have this car in my files already. I've attached the fender tag for laughs and giggles....

Nice car, no doubt.  :yesnod:  It would be my '68 "XP" first choice.

Dan

bakerhillpins

That's why its been for sale since at least 09.   
One great wife (Life is good)
14 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi Crew Cab (crap hauler)
69 Dodge Charger R/T, Q5, C6X, V1X, V88  (Life is WAY better)
96' VFR750 (Sweet)
Capt. Lyme Vol. Fire

"Inspiration is for amateurs - the rest of us just show up and get to work." -Chuck Close
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein
Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

1970Moparmann

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 22, 2013, 04:09:31 AM


Interesting...  What makes it 1 of 6?


A/C with a big block and a 4-speed. Only with the 383 4-bbl could you have a manual transmission and air conditioning. Not an option with the R/T's and 383 2-bbl.

Dan
[/quote]


Dan, I was under the impression that that made it 1 of 259?  

Reason why I keep digging deeper is if what you say is correct, my 68 is 1 of the 6.  
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

bakerhillpins

There are 259 383 4bbl 4spd 68s, 6 of which have AC.  

and something like 76 383 4spd 2bbl cars.
One great wife (Life is good)
14 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi Crew Cab (crap hauler)
69 Dodge Charger R/T, Q5, C6X, V1X, V88  (Life is WAY better)
96' VFR750 (Sweet)
Capt. Lyme Vol. Fire

"Inspiration is for amateurs - the rest of us just show up and get to work." -Chuck Close
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein
Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

Dans 68

Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 22, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 22, 2013, 04:09:31 AM


Interesting...  What makes it 1 of 6?


A/C with a big block and a 4-speed. Only with the 383 4-bbl could you have a manual transmission and air conditioning. Not an option with the R/T's and 383 2-bbl.

Dan


Dan, I was under the impression that that made it 1 of 259?  

Reason why I keep digging deeper is if what you say is correct, my 68 is 1 of the 6.  

[/quote]

Dodge made 259 of the 383 4-bbl 4-speed Chargers in 1968. Only six (that are known - I don't believe archival documentation still exists to know for certain) have A/C.

Dodge made 74 383 2-bbl 4-speed cars. 333 total between the 4-bbl's and 2-bbl's.

As far as being worth the price I don't know - I would have to see a lot more photos, and specifically photos of areas that don't normally see direct sunlight. It is a beautiful car, though. I love the QQ-1  :yesnod: hardtop with white interior combination.  

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Dino

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 23, 2013, 02:06:41 AM
Quote from: 1970Moparmann on January 22, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 22, 2013, 04:09:31 AM


Interesting...  What makes it 1 of 6?


A/C with a big block and a 4-speed. Only with the 383 4-bbl could you have a manual transmission and air conditioning. Not an option with the R/T's and 383 2-bbl.

Dan


Dan, I was under the impression that that made it 1 of 259?  

Reason why I keep digging deeper is if what you say is correct, my 68 is 1 of the 6.  


Dodge made 259 of the 383 4-bbl 4-speed Chargers in 1968. Only six (that are known - I don't believe archival documentation still exists to know for certain) have A/C.

Dodge made 74 383 2-bbl 4-speed cars. 333 total between the 4-bbl's and 2-bbl's.

As far as being worth the price I don't know - I would have to see a lot more photos, and specifically photos of areas that don't normally see direct sunlight. It is a beautiful car, though. I love the QQ-1  :yesnod:hardtop with white interior combination. 

Dan
[/quote]

If I recall, the owner put it away for the winter but I wouldn't mind driving over there in the spring and snap a few pictures.  Any excuse to drive my own!   :icon_smile_big:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.