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1969 Hemi Charger Wheel Options

Started by johnnyseville, January 15, 2013, 04:03:53 PM

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johnnyseville

Just checking before I place an order.  Have the F70x15 redlines with poverty caps, looking to update to the nicest available for my setup.  Were the Road Wheels an option for my car, if not, what was other than the hub caps, thanks.

PS.. doing my Daytona also with the Road Wheels, but was not sure if the 15" ones were also available that year.
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hemigeno

In 1969, wheel options for a Hemi were:

15" body-colored steel "H" wheels & poverty caps - standard equipment
15" black steel "H" wheels and full wheel covers (I think it's Sales Code W11) - a carry-over option from 1968 Hemicars; a similar cover was used in 1969 on Sportsman vans except the center section is red for the vans & gray/argent on passenger cars.
15" cast aluminum styled wheel (Sales Code W23) - the infamous "Recall Wheel", cancelled in early September, 1968

With your Daytona - unless it's a HemiDaytona - the wheels would have been 14" with all of the wheel/cap/cover options available for a base Charger or Charger R/T.

:cheers:



johnnyseville

Just want to clarify, can I put the road wheels 14" on the 440 Daytona?  They were an option, right?

For the 69 Hemi R/T, the Road Wheels were not an option?
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Just 6T9 CHGR

No..... Road Wheels were not optional with any Hemi



This one shows the W23 Recall Wheel

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


johnnyseville

Thank you very much, don't know where you got that, but gives me all the info I need. Great! :cheers:
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XS29LA47V21

I thought some W11 covers came on some 500s/Daytonas  (not hemi cars)?

hemigeno

Quote from: XS29LA47V21 on January 15, 2013, 05:29:28 PM
I thought some W11 covers came on some 500s/Daytonas  (not hemi cars)?

In Chris' first posted picture, you can see that Sales Code W11 had two applications... one for 14" wheels and another application for 15" wheels.  The same Sales Code would indicate two different wheel covers, depending on whether it was a Hemicar or not. 

As far as I know, after Sales Code W23 was cancelled (the recall wheels), you could not order a 1969 non-Hemi B-body with 15" wheels.  When the W23 code was active, I know you could have done so - but I think that possibility went away when the cast wheels were dropped.


Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: johnnyseville on January 15, 2013, 05:16:22 PM
Thank you very much, don't know where you got that, but gives me all the info I need. Great! :cheers:

In my '69 Registry gallery....

http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/albums.php

Located in my '69 Registry site

http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/

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Chris' '69 Charger R/T


69CoronetRT

Quote from: hemigeno on January 15, 2013, 05:36:35 PM

As far as I know, after Sales Code W23 was cancelled (the recall wheels), you could not order a 1969 non-Hemi B-body with 15" wheels.  When the W23 code was active, I know you could have done so - but I think that possibility went away when the cast wheels were dropped.

Geno I agree that you could not order a 15" rim on a non Hemi B body as a stand alone option but a 15" wheel (G70x15") was standard with the A12 440-6 package. Splitting hairs....
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

charge69

Well, if we are going to split hairs, the "A12" package cars were considered 1969 1/2 cars! My Charger came with the HEMI and the W11 package and, per the buildsheet, came with F70-15 Firestone Redline Wide Ovals and deluxe wheelcovers as shown in Geno's first picture.

Scaregrabber

Not a Charger but it drove me nuts when I owned my 69 Hemi GTX that it wasn't supposed to have something more attractive on it for wheels.

Sheldon

hemigeno

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 15, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on January 15, 2013, 05:36:35 PM

As far as I know, after Sales Code W23 was cancelled (the recall wheels), you could not order a 1969 non-Hemi B-body with 15" wheels.  When the W23 code was active, I know you could have done so - but I think that possibility went away when the cast wheels were dropped.

Geno I agree that you could not order a 15" rim on a non Hemi B body as a stand alone option but a 15" wheel (G70x15") was standard with the A12 440-6 package. Splitting hairs....

Very true on the A12 exception, Doug - and I stand corrected   :2thumbs:


johnnyseville

Found these as an option to the dog dishes, would like personal opinions, this or the dogs

They are $100 each and correct for 15" Hemi, would be used with black steel wheels
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70moparman

I much rather perfer those full size hubcaps over the poverty caps...   :Twocents:

maxwellwedge

In 1970 - You could get a 14" road wheel on a Hemi B-Body......15" only on Hemi E-Bodies

Personally - Nothing screams HEMI like painted steel wheels and doggies!  :2thumbs:

hemigeno

Quote from: johnnyseville on January 16, 2013, 10:04:03 AM
Found these as an option to the dog dishes, would like personal opinions, this or the dogs

They are $100 each and correct for 15" Hemi, would be used with black steel wheels

If your car has disc brakes, there is yet another variant of that same wheel cover.  On those, the center bullseyes have "DISC BRAKES" text printed.

:Twocents:

johnnyseville

Yes I do, the 4 piston caliper.  Was easier than I thought, called them, they have those available, same price, so now just have to decide whether to go for them or not.  Will see what type of feedback I get from you guys and will go with the concensious of opinion.
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charge69

Correct me if I am wrong here but, I believe the wheelcovers with "disc brakes" printed on them are either C body or Dodge truck wheelcovers. I never saw a B body MOPAR with that style on it as I remember. Below is a picture of a 1969 Charger with the aforementioned wheelcovers on it. It is not me in the picture but the older man is the original owner and I bought a set of NOS, still in the packing paper and Chrysler box, wheelcovers from the other fellow in the picture. The younger man bought the Charger and my wheelcovers were in the trunk of this car as the older man, and original owner of the Hemicharger, bought an extra set from the dealer back in the day. They have the correct part number on them, both on the box and on a sticker on the backside of the wheelcover, also.

The other pic was sent to me to show how they looked installed on another car, turning out to be a GTX.






69CoronetRT

QuoteI believe the wheelcovers with "disc brakes" printed on them are either C body or Dodge truck wheelcovers. I never saw a B body MOPAR with that style on it as I remember

Still looking through my stuff for definitive documentation for that statement...

The car and a close up of the wheel covers
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: hemigeno on January 16, 2013, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 15, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on January 15, 2013, 05:36:35 PM

As far as I know, after Sales Code W23 was cancelled (the recall wheels), you could not order a 1969 non-Hemi B-body with 15" wheels.  When the W23 code was active, I know you could have done so - but I think that possibility went away when the cast wheels were dropped.

Geno I agree that you could not order a 15" rim on a non Hemi B body as a stand alone option but a 15" wheel (G70x15") was standard with the A12 440-6 package. Splitting hairs....

Very true on the A12 exception, Doug - and I stand corrected   :2thumbs:



I would never be so presumptions as to correct you Geno. You've probably forgotten more than I'll ever know....I was agreeing with you. I just wanted to mention that the A12's (non-Hemis) did come with 15's as part of the package. That's the only exception I can think of to what you posted.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

70moparman

Ok, after seeing pictures of them on other cars, I had them confused with a better looking hubcap I saw earlier on a members red daytona (must of been 14s), so for the record, I change my mind, steelies and poverty caps over the full caps now...   :Twocents:

charge69

Well, even though I have never seen one, a picture of a '68 with "disc brake" printed on the wheelcover appears ! Ha ! I guess one should "never say never" to anything MOPAR. The only disc brake Hemi's (2) I have ever seen had full wheelcovers without 'disc brake" printed on them, only a black painted center but, who knows? I do know that the only part number listed by Chrysler for the 1969 Hemicars are for the full wheelcovers with just a black dot there.

My Charger is not here but the wheelcovers are in my garage and have a part number of : 2881753

By the way, certainly not trying to correct anyone as my small knowledge-base would not allow that. Just imparting what I have found out researching my project. Apologies to anyone who thought different.

P.S. I plan to normally run slots on my Charger most of the time but I do have the Coker repro F70-15 Redline bias-ply tires on my original rims for a very occasional car show. Probably will leave the slots on even on most (very few) of the car shows I attend.

Mytur Binsdirti

If you're going to run those full wheelcovers, you need either a white line or red line tire to offest it. Blackwalls or white letter tires with full wheelcovers just looks horrible.  :Twocents:

Indygenerallee

QuoteIf you're going to run those full wheelcovers, you need either a white line or red line tire to offest it. Blackwalls or white letter tires with full wheelcovers just looks horrible. 
X2
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

70moparman

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on January 16, 2013, 02:34:06 PM
If you're going to run those full wheelcovers, you need either a white line or red line tire to offest it. Blackwalls or white letter tires with full wheelcovers just looks horrible.  :Twocents:
X3  :yesnod: