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Bullitt Charger for sale

Started by Homerr, January 09, 2013, 03:45:36 PM

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JB400

He can keep it.  Besides, how many hub caps come with it :icon_smile_big:

Dino

Has it ever been proven this is THE car?  Regardless I think that price is insane.  I wouldn't pay that for a car built by McQueen himself.

Movie car or not, I don't think its pop culture value is that high.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Drache

Quote from: Dino on January 09, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Has it ever been proven this is THE car? 

Last I heard there wasn't 100% proof it was the car. Just the evidence he gives and that one of the stunt drivers or something saying that they believe it's the same car.
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Homerr

Quote from: Dino on January 09, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Has it ever been proven this is THE car?  Regardless I think that price is insane.  I wouldn't pay that for a car built by McQueen himself.

Movie car or not, I don't think its pop culture value is that high.

I read through the links in the ad a couple of months ago, they make a decent argument that is the surviving car.  (Though, a few holes drilled from production photos of the camera car into a vanilla Charger would be a cool way to make a million bucks!)  Anyway, the links are an interesting read on Bullitt car related stuff.

Dino

Quote from: Drache on January 09, 2013, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: Dino on January 09, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Has it ever been proven this is THE car? 

Last I heard there wasn't 100% proof it was the car. Just the evidence he gives and that one of the stunt drivers or something saying that they believe it's the same car.

That's pretty much the info I had as well.  There might be enough circumstantial evidence here but even if we give the owner the benefit of the doubt, what real world price are we talking here?  Let's suppose we can all afford it, what would you feel comfortable with paying for it?

I can't put a price on it myself as I don't have any special love for it, but I'm sure others would be all over it.  

Quote from: Homerr on January 09, 2013, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: Dino on January 09, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Has it ever been proven this is THE car?  Regardless I think that price is insane.  I wouldn't pay that for a car built by McQueen himself.

Movie car or not, I don't think its pop culture value is that high.

I read through the links in the ad a couple of months ago, they make a decent argument that is the surviving car.  (Though, a few holes drilled from production photos of the camera car into a vanilla Charger would be a cool way to make a million bucks!)  Anyway, the links are an interesting read on Bullitt car related stuff.

I didn't think about replicating it but it is a valid point.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

1BAD68

I believe it's the real deal.
That being said, one million bucks? Hell Yeah!
What would the original screen used Kowalski Challenger be worth today?
Or how about the original DMCL Charger?
This is THEE charger that started it all, the most famous grand daddy Mopar of them all.

67_Dodge_Charger

I would go $32k for the Charger.. :popcrn:

Mike DC


Quite probably legit . . . but not worth a million. 


I would investigate the owner if I was buying it.  He supposedly bought it first and then stumbled onto the possible history.  That would be much more believable from some people than others.  Who sold it to him?  Was he keenly interested in the car's original options & location at the time he was looking?


moparstuart

not enough documentation to prove its the real deal
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Aero426

Quote from: moparstuart on January 09, 2013, 04:58:43 PM
not enough documentation to prove its the real deal


This is a lot like the JFK ambulance from several years ago.   

I want to believe.   But no paperwork from anyone on the Charger is a big deal. 

bill440rt

IF it is the real deal, what would be a fair price then??  :scratchchin:

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tan top

wondered how long it would take ,for that car  to be advertised  !    nothing was ever proven though , if i remember correctly ? :scratchchin:

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Tilar

The guy had that car at the nationals last year, and it only took about 45 seconds to get my fill of BS that the guy was trying to spread.
Dave  

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projectanimal

People pay far more for a small piece of art.... :shruggy:
It may be a bitch to hang on the wall though!!  :smilielol:

Would be cool to know more facts, but the idea it's "the"car is cool!!
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moparstuart

Quote from: tan top on January 09, 2013, 05:21:02 PM
wondered how long it would take ,for that car  to be advertised  !    nothing was ever proven though , if i remember correctly ? :scratchchin:


they figure if they just keep hauling it around and telling everyone its the real deal , it will become the  real deal   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:    
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Cooter

If I was in the market for it (Which would be a cold day in hell for that price), I'd have to see proof that the movie studio's name was on the title.

We have this very same problem with the "Supposedly" remaining Movie Christines. Of the THREE, TWO are known as documented by Richard Kobrits.
There's one we have in the club hasn't been confirmed yet. One has. As mentioned, Too little documentation for such an asking price for me.
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Aero426

Quote from: moparstuart on January 09, 2013, 05:37:05 PM

They figure if they just keep hauling it around and telling everyone its the real deal , it will become the  real deal   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:    

That is how these things work.   

Drache

Quote from: Cooter on January 09, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
If I was in the market for it (Which would be a cold day in hell for that price), I'd have to see proof that the movie studio's name was on the title.

From my understanding WB never bought the cars themselves. It was the stunt driver Bill Hickman who bought them with WB funds. And WB doesn't have the records of the VINs used because those records are lost.

So there is no way to 100% prove it's the Bullitt Car.
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tan top

 was RDR838 the original licence plate for one of the cars  ?  
also , supposedly the chargers were bought at Glendale Dodge , southern California ,  would  they not have  turn downs  insted of tips  , cause of the noise reduction package  , or was that only a 69 & later thing  :scratchchin: :shruggy: :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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RECHRGD

Quote from: tan top on January 09, 2013, 06:49:43 PM
was RDR838 the original licence plate for one of the cars  ? 
also , supposedly the chargers were bought at Glendale Dodge , southern California ,  would  they not have  turn downs  insted of tips  , cause of the noise reduction package  , or was that only a 69 & later thing  :scratchchin: :shruggy: :popcrn:

Bought my original '68 in So.Cal. And it did not have the turned down tips.  They were the same as pictured.......
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Homerr

Quote from: tan top on January 09, 2013, 06:49:43 PM
was RDR838 the original licence plate for one of the cars  ?  
also , supposedly the chargers were bought at Glendale Dodge , southern California ,  would  they not have  turn downs  insted of tips  , cause of the noise reduction package  , or was that only a 69 & later thing  :scratchchin: :shruggy: :popcrn:

The plates are widely available:

http://compare.ebay.com/like/251199772832?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

Scaregrabber

Neat car if it's real. It's got to be worth three times what the lame Mustang is worth?

Sheldon

69 OUR/TEA

I would'nt buy it ,cause I don't like black chargers or those hubcaps !!!

bull

If I were in the market to buy that car my payment would be contingent on the owner submitting to and passing a polygraph test.

Mike DC

  
A lot of historical items in the world are unlikely to be the real things, but after a long time of carrying the identity of the real thing they have acquired much of the value.  Even when scientific testing rules out legitimacy the item still rarely stops being prized.  


So far there are no problems with the Bullitt car's story as the owner tells it.  That, coupled with the nonexistent information about the original car, makes me doubt there will ever be another contender for its Bullitt credentials.  If this thing appears at Mopar shows for a decade as "the real thing" then it will take on that identity, proven or not . . .  and it will take on much of the dollar value of the real thing too.  Proven or not. 




Steve P.

For me to spend 1 MIL. on a car, I would have to be a billionaire and still it would need documentation beyond any doubt. Then I still probably would not spend a million bucks on a car... Hell, for a million bucks, I could buy everyone on here a new car... Ok, new to you cars!!! hahahaha....
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greenpigs

Well like about everyone said it needs some serious documentation to ask BIG money, but even if it is the car from the movie I think that's just a wet dreamer number from the seller.

Who is to say what it is worth & I think it is ideal for an auction, but word of mouth isn't enough for most people as for the history.

My magic number pulled straight from my ass is $250,000 if it is legit.
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1974dodgecharger

I talked to steve about this car awhile back and he told me ALL CARS WERE DESTROYED IN FRONT OF HIS EYES...he once said if a guy claims he has the real bullit he is a FAKE.

yes true story......  :2thumbs:





now im on my way to merry land...Ill be back with a numbers matching 1968, 6 speed, 440 hemi, 8 pack, with cruise control.

XS29LA47V21

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 09, 2013, 08:27:07 PM
I wouldn't buy it ,cause I don't like black chargers or those hubcaps !!!

:popcrn:  me neither. :lol: :lol:  Give me another 10 yrs maybe I will start creeping around town with hubcaps..... :hah:

I like it, it's nice to dream one is found, I think it is plausible, I just do not have a thing for movie cars or much value there to that level.  I could see the a huge fan or fluffy pockets, if car confirmed more thoroughly paying into the 100-200k maybe?

70 Charger RT

I find it interesting that he's posted one of the pictures in his ad I had taken when I seen him and the car at 2011 SEMA.  He must have downloaded the picture from this site as this site is the only place I had previously posted the picture.  I don't mind.
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Richard Petty is signing autographs in the background at the Optima Batterys booth.  You can see his car.
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projectanimal

Yeah, but is it the "real" Richard Petty????  Did he have documents with him??  LMAO.  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

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1974dodgecharger

So thats really him? 
Quote from: 70 Charger RT on January 10, 2013, 09:42:26 AM
I find it interesting that he's posted one of the pictures in his ad I had taken when I seen him and the car at 2011 SEMA.  He must have downloaded the picture from this site as this site is the only place I had previously posted the picture.  I don't mind.

Ghoste

Would it be worth a million even if it could be proven it was the Bullitt Charger????

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: Ghoste on January 10, 2013, 11:00:39 AM
Would it be worth a million even if it could be proven it was the Bullitt Charger????


Still HELL NO !!!!

Homerr

Quote from: Ghoste on January 10, 2013, 11:00:39 AM
Would it be worth a million even if it could be proven it was the Bullitt Charger????

Presuming it had airtight documentation and is a top-notch resto then I could see it worth $200-250k.

I think it's a great looking car, but I wouldn't buy it unless it was a drivable clone so I could have fun with it without worry.

Aero426

Quote from: Ghoste on January 10, 2013, 11:00:39 AM
Would it be worth a million even if it could be proven it was the Bullitt Charger????

I don't think so.   But if the roles were reversed and McQueen had driven the Charger in the movie AND it was the real deal, I would say yes.  

I think the Mustang would be worth more due to the McQueen connection. 


Ghoste

Oh yes, just mutter McQueen around the sales wing of our place and you'll see the staff get that salivating look with the sparkly eyes while they dream of the many ways they can spend that commission.

JB400

On auction block, I'd say that car would bring between $125k- $150k tops.

tan top

Quote from: Aero426 on January 09, 2013, 05:55:57 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on January 09, 2013, 05:37:05 PM

They figure if they just keep hauling it around and telling everyone its the real deal , it will become the  real deal   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:    

That is how these things work.  

yeah !! true  :yesnod:

didnt this sell again , still being portrayed as the real thing 
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
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Dmichels

You always ASK more for a "rare" item that has no sales history. Whats it worth? What ever someone is willing to pay. I am sure the guy is open to offers but he is hopeing some fool would pay his asking price. If I was ever going to sell my car I would ask more then it is worth and hope for the best.
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Ghoste

True enough.  That doesn't mean he should be promoting the car as being definitely the Bullitt car when all he has is circumstantial evidence.  Yes, buyer beware blah blah blah and do your homework and you are a fool who deserves to get screwed if you make the mistake but not unlike the Allison wing car above, each time these things are offered as for sur, the world begins to accept them.  Strangely enough they also begin to build real evidence as each owner seeks to prove their claim.  That Allison car has Allisons own endorsement and if someone pays through the nose for this black Charger, now that its entering the collectible automotive commodities realm I have a feeling it will have "hard" evidence soon enough as well.
And the circumstantial evidence isn't bad, this could be the car.

bull

Quote from: XS29LA47V21 on January 10, 2013, 08:58:28 AM
Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 09, 2013, 08:27:07 PM
I wouldn't buy it ,cause I don't like black chargers or those hubcaps !!!

:popcrn:  me neither. :lol: :lol:  Give me another 10 yrs maybe I will start creeping around town with hubcaps..... :hah:

I like it, it's nice to dream one is found, I think it is plausible, I just do not have a thing for movie cars or much value there to that level.  I could see the a huge fan or fluffy pockets, if car confirmed more thoroughly paying into the 100-200k maybe?

Color preference is an understandable issue but I could never understand why anyone would refuse to buy a car because of wheels. It's the easiest fix in the world. :shruggy: Not saying you guys are implying that but I've seen it many times before.

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Ghoste

Haha, sooner or later I'll have to give you the tour.  I'll be sure when that day comes to tell someone I have to leave my desk for a bit, I'm taking one of the McQueens through the muesum and shop.

Mike DC

QuoteTrue enough.  That doesn't mean he should be promoting the car as being definitely the Bullitt car when all he has is circumstantial evidence.  Yes, buyer beware blah blah blah and do your homework and you are a fool who deserves to get screwed if you make the mistake but not unlike the Allison wing car above, each time these things are offered as for sur, the world begins to accept them.  Strangely enough they also begin to build real evidence as each owner seeks to prove their claim.  That Allison car has Allisons own endorsement and if someone pays through the nose for this black Charger, now that its entering the collectible automotive commodities realm I have a feeling it will have "hard" evidence soon enough as well.
And the circumstantial evidence isn't bad, this could be the car.

Agree, the Bullitt car will probably become more legit in people's eyes if it stays in the hobby like it is for a bunch of years. 

Not if somebody buys it for a private collection and mothballs it.  But maybe if it shows up at big Mopar events on display and becomes a popular thing.   

MoparMotel

Aren't those 69 seats with the holes in the top for headrests? Also the chunks missing out of steering wheel
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Ghoste

No they are 68 seats.  The headrests were optional for 68.

Dave Kanofsky

According to the August 1969 issue of Car Life magazine (article reprinted in the January 2013 issue of the Winged Warriors/National B-Body Owners Assoc. newsletter):

"The Charger, with only 600 miles showing on the odometer, was destroyed in the crash and fire."

The Mustang was repaired and sold for $2500.

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Ghoste

Although in the crash scene you do see the Charger rolling through in the background on the other side of the explosion... :D

Dino

Quote from: Ghoste on January 15, 2013, 05:51:15 PM
Although in the crash scene you do see the Charger rolling through in the background on the other side of the explosion... :D

Hey now don't start making trouble again Ghoste, the car hit the gas station, just as planned, and blew up!  So there.   :icon_smile_big:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Ghoste


mauve66

does cali keep title records back that far on microfiche??
someone with a law enforcment connection could run the VIN, i did it my self in 94 before all the privacy laws came about, was like 10 bucks or something for a copy of each document, went all the way back to when it was new, of course being only the 3rd family (5th owner ) to have it made it a little easier
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alignment

1BAD68

Has anyone seen this newspaper clipping?
Makes you wonder

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mauve66

what's the source of the paper??  windows 98??
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body work
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total wiring
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alignment

70moparman

Quote from: moparstuart on January 09, 2013, 05:37:05 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 09, 2013, 05:21:02 PM
wondered how long it would take ,for that car  to be advertised  !    nothing was ever proven though , if i remember correctly ? :scratchchin:


they figure if they just keep hauling it around and telling everyone its the real deal , it will become the  real deal   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:    

Well Said!  :yesnod:  And if it was the real car, wouldnt it have like 5 less hubcaps...  :smilielol: :smilielol:

Homerr

FWIW, this guy claims this was the Charger that was set up as a camera car.  He cites holes drilled in certain areas where cameras were mounted as the main proof, compared with production photos.  Also some blue paint under the black.

70moparman

Quote from: 1BAD68 on January 15, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
Has anyone seen this newspaper clipping?
Makes you wonder
AND THEN THERE WERE 3...   :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:

TUFCAT

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 10, 2013, 04:04:23 PM
On auction block, I'd say that car would bring between $125k- $150k tops.

For the record I agree with stroker on this one. $150K tops with no hard proof that its a "real Bullitt car". It sure seems real, but without credentials or signed affidavits from the production company the price is limited. :Twocents: :Twocents:  Personally I'd like the seller to spend some money on rock solid documentation, then set the asking price at $250,000 and see where it goes.  :shruggy: :popcrn: