Triple black R/T SE resto thread #2

[69 OUR/TEA]

After doing a rotiss paint/body resto on member RTSE's triple black R/T SE 4spd car,then doing my B5 69 R/T complete resto (sold),now finally get to tear into my own car.
I bought the car in 2009,it is a Cal black plate car,came from there in 03.Very excited to have found it as it is a real clean solid Charger,but most of all my dream Charger,a real R/T 3x9 car,the SE part was a bonus.The car is still all orig panels with the only rust issue being some pitting and pinholes on the trunk floor(probably gonna buy a one piece AMD and just use the very middle lower pan leaving all the factory spotwelds,seams,etc).And as usual,the rest of the body is basically years of dents and waves to be straightened.
Pulled some panels off already earlier this year to do bodywork on when I had some spare time,but now it's time to rip everything out and get busy on it.
Having lifts makes life so much easier,they are worth every penny.I used the 2 post lift to take the exhaust and tranny out from the bottom,and the arms of the lift to pull the eng out from the top.Will def assemble eng/tranny on K frame when done and lower car over in one shot.
After the drivetrain was pulled,the car went back into my workshop area and took out the front suspension,rear,gas tank,interior,etc.For guys with low ceilings,these mid rise scissor lifts are worth every penny as well,very,very,usefull.Brian(1hotdaytona)talked me into one of these,he's had one for years in his shop and uses is a alot.
Now getting ready to start sending out the stuff to be rebuilt/restored,booster,master,gauges,hinges,wiper motor,etc.
And best of all,the bodywork !!!!!!!!

[69 OUR/TEA]

some pics...

[69 OUR/TEA]

couple more....

[WHITE AND RED 69]

That looks like a great car to start with. Great work! 

That scissor lift looks awesome, might have to save up for one. And another charger to use it on. 

[Ryan]

very cool project.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

NICE

[bill440rt]

Ooooooo, I can't WAIT to see the progress on this one, Paul!   
No doubt, it will be super nice just like your others. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Ooooooo, I can't WAIT to see the progress on this one, Paul!   
No doubt, it will be super nice just like your others. 

I concur!  I like that scissor lift deal.....hmmm

[69 OUR/TEA]

NICE

Mytur,you and me are going in opposite directions right now !!LOL Wish I was at the stage you are in !!!

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Putting it all together is always more fun & rewarding than taking it apart. In time, you'll be there.  Have you figured out what shade of orange it'll be painted yet?   

[69 OUR/TEA]

Putting it all together is always more fun & rewarding than taking it apart. In time, you'll be there.  Have you figured out what shade of orange it'll be painted yet?   

Now that's funny right there !!!

[tan top]

 

Putting it all together is always more fun & rewarding than taking it apart. In time, you'll be there.  Have you figured out what shade of orange it'll be painted yet?  

Now that's funny right there !!!

that funny  haha


see you have grey behind  the side marker reflector housings ,  i did too ,  could not work it out , cause the factory primer was red oxide color !  & no sign of gray under the red primer  ,  could not work out if it was & imprint of the gasket or  

[69 OUR/TEA]

I'll pay attention to that as I strip the quarter panels.The car has been painted once,and now I notice,the side markers were not taken out,yes,grey primer.?But my floor pans/firewall is red.

[Charger-Bodie]

You gonna keep it a vinyl top? Or weld the holes shut? 

[69 OUR/TEA]

You gonna keep it a vinyl top? Or weld the holes shut? 

LOL,now that's EVEN funnier right there !!!

[69 OUR/TEA]

Did alittle more dismantling tonight......inst cluster,heater controls,wiper motor,and the A/C heater box,holy crap that thing is heavy !!!!Waiting on a tool from Classic Ind so I can take of my winshield trim,winshield,then my dash frame.Can't find the tool I used to have.

[bill440rt]

Damn Paul, those floorpans are pristine!! 
Perfect foundation to weld the rollbar to! 

[bakerhillpins]

This is going to be fun to watch!   

[Homerr]

I'll pay attention to that as I strip the quarter panels.The car has been painted once,and now I notice,the side markers were not taken out,yes,grey primer.?But my floor pans/firewall is red.

What about the fender tag and/or build sheet?

Nice project!

[69 OUR/TEA]

Orig fender tag is there,no broadcast sheet.It was there,I see remnents still attached to the floor.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Damn Paul, those floorpans are pristine!! 
Perfect foundation to weld the rollbar to! 

Yes Bill,when I went to see the car,the carpet wasn't in it,so I got to see the floors,and was very happy when I saw the orig red oxcide primer in that nice of shape.The car had weird crap done to it,you do remember the AMC door handles,right !!! There is also a little square hole in the bottom of each rocker panel that was cut out for whatever reason,that I have to weld in a patch.And on the Dutchman panel,there are 2 drilled holes,about 1/2'' round just behind the lower corners,now have bondo covering them.At sometime there must have been something bolted there ??

[Skyview69]

Nice work...Can't wait to see the final product.  Wish you could work on my car 

[tan top]

floors look awesome  

I'll pay attention to that as I strip the quarter panels.The car has been painted once,and now I notice,the side markers were not taken out,yes,grey primer.?But my floor pans/firewall is red.

yeah , my original front fenders were the same  , light gray primer behind the side marker housings ,
yours has loads of red oxide inside  ,  mine was just the dark gray factory primer dip to about 2 thirds the way up the fire wall , then bare metal    luckily mine was still pretty much bare metal & some light surface rust
loads of yellow on floor though , not a trace of red oxide in side , just on exterior panels ,
think i took a few pictures of the gray primer on mine , thinking this is odd  , will have to have a look  ,  course did not take many pictures doing mine , it was the days before  every one had a digital camera  , even home computers & internet ,

[PtitRaisin]

Really nice.

Where did you buy you scissor lift? It's awesome!

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Swapping out to a tan interior will be a breeze now!   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Really nice.

Where did you buy you scissor lift? It's awesome!

Speaking of which, when the car is completely stripped it'll become very tail heavy. Beware of the center of gravity while it's on the lift.

[PtitRaisin]

Yeah I was thinking the same.
It not dangerous when you begin to dismantle lot of things?

Is it a mean to bolt it on the floor?

[69 OUR/TEA]

Knowing that it would be tail heavy,I have it set up on there more forward than usual.I wasn't going to take out the rear and gas tank as of just yet,but figured it would help lightening the back end would be a good thing.This lift still grabs the car with adjustable swing arms and pads just like it was on a 2 post.
Believe me,I am a paranoid one when it comes to cars up on lifts,your life is under that thing.When I built the garage where the 2 post is,the entire slab is 6'' thick,and under the 2 post I went deeper,8-9'' thick.And when researching for a 2 post,I liked the Bendpak as its columns have a large footprint and 6 bolts in the baseplate rather than most have 5.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Really nice.

Where did you buy you scissor lift? It's awesome!

Again,did a lot of research on these scissor lifts,actually drove to Greg Smith Equipment up in NH to physically see their brands(Atlas).Then went to a place a town away from me here in Bristol,Ct,Ray Jurgen,they sell/install/maintain lifts.Once I saw this one,Rotary Revolution,it was hands down way more beefy in the steel,reinforcements,the lock mechanism,and especially the 2 cylinders are massive compared to the Atlas.Was $600 more,but worth it to me.It can go to a height of 54'' .
Not saying the Atlas is bad,probably works fine,just decided the couple bucks more was worth it.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Really nice.

Where did you buy you scissor lift? It's awesome!

Speaking of which, when the car is completely stripped it'll become very tail heavy. Beware of the center of gravity while it's on the lift.

Oh yeah,know very well,actually,look close in the eng bay pic,you will see 2 straps in the tranny crossmember holes as a just in case to help aid holding down the front.When the rear and gas tank were still in it (13 gal gas),I was able to pick the car up off the front pads.After rear,etc was out,seemed real stable,put straps on anyway.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Damn Paul, those floorpans are pristine!! 
Perfect foundation to weld the rollbar to! 

Yes Bill,when I went to see the car,the carpet wasn't in it,so I got to see the floors,and was very happy when I saw the orig red oxcide primer in that nice of shape.The car had weird crap done to it,you do remember the AMC door handles,right !!! :brickwall:There is also a little square hole in the bottom of each rocker panel that was cut out for whatever reason,that I have to weld in a patch.And on the Dutchman panel,there are 2 drilled holes,about 1/2'' round just behind the lower corners,now have bondo covering them.At sometime there must have been something bolted there ??

I remember those door handles!   How did you fix it again?

[69 OUR/TEA]

First fix was a quick one just to get those hidious things out of my doors,the final repair was this...

2 other orig charger doors supplied the donor door handle area,carefully located the new section,going around the door edge and incorporating the orig hem(to take away another vertical weld),installed the door handle that will be being used on that door(orig gonna get rechromed)plus a backing plate to add strength.A use of spacers is a must when doing a butt weld so the panels don't pull toward eachother when the heat/weld hits it.Put as many spacers as you can poss fit,tack between them,IMMEDIATELY cooling each tack(I had my blow gun next to me).Jump around the panel ,keep doing this process,very time consuming,keeping the door handle bolted in also ensuring strength.Key for a butt weld not to come back and haunt you with the "ghost line"thru the finished bodywork/paint is to GRIND both sides and keep your weld the thickness of the sheetmetal with all hopes that the area that is filled in with weld expands and contract at the rate the sheetmetal does.
I did the poss best I could to repair and save my orig doors to the car as they fit perfect,gaps,power window doors,and rustfree is an understatement.
At worst,they do something funny ,I will get diff doors,and paint those.I am at an advantage as the car will be PPG Concept 9300,so matching won't be a problem.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Here are some scary pics for you......

[69 OUR/TEA]

and more....

[69 OUR/TEA]

The pass door wasn't that bad,only needed,the lock area to be fixed,did it the same way,piece from another orig charger door,secured it in,hoked up all the lock pieces to make sure it worked,welded,grinded on both sides.

[tan top]

 nice job  , on the doors   

[bsakal]

Holy crap, that repair would have scared me to death. Nice work!

[Back N Black]

Nice work! you got skills. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Wow now I remember! 

[69 OUR/TEA]

Got the rest of it gutted out today,windshield,backglass,headliner,dash frame,wiper arms,all wiring harnesses,vinyl top,trim.Took some pics before I rip off the glued on under dash insulation.Was thrilled when I pulled the windshield,clean as the day was built.The back window  was also never out of the car,very clean as well all the way around ,but did discover a samll hole bottom left corner,easy fix,couple tacks with the welder.Really nice under the vinyl top to,I'm thrilled considering it is a vinyl top car, also found those two other positioning clips on the bottom  still there.
Now to put all these freakin parts somewhere !!!!!! So much stuff to store away.

[69 OUR/TEA]

pics....

[69 OUR/TEA]

last ones....

[tan top]

 
   

  good pictures !! looking forward to seeing more as & when 

[Charger-Bodie]

You are a lucky man Paul. That is an awesome Charger.

[bill440rt]

You are doing a fine job, sir. 

[The70RT]

   

[hemi68charger]

Impressive.....

[HeavyFuel]

What was wrong with the door handle areas that the sheet metal needed replacing?

[69 OUR/TEA]

What was wrong with the door handle areas that the sheet metal needed replacing?

Alot of weird things were done to this car,one of them being someone covered the orig door handle holes and cut in AMC door handles.
The car is very clean as far as rust,but had some weird crap done to it,obviously the door handles,a Ford antenna drilled in a diff spot on the fender,there was one small square hole cut on the bottom of each rocker panel with a plate screwed over them?There are 2 holes about 1/2'' drilled on the deck panel that are bodyfilled over right now that I'll have to fix,the tail panel was a heavy metallic purple at one point,then painted black again,they added the luggage rack,which is not on the fender tag,so off it went.When I stripped the front fenders,I found one one there were 3 small holes drilled on top right above the wheel,that I thought probably was a dent that someone drilled for the old school dent pullers,but after stripping the other fender,there were the same 3 holes in the same location,looks like there was fender mounted mirrors???

Today,after going back to the original post I made to get the link so you can see how it was when I got it,kinda funny,today makes 5 years to the day that I got it !!!


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,38682.0.html

[69 OUR/TEA]

Oh yeah,forgot about the extra emblems and hood pins to!!!!

[RJS]

Paul looks like an excellent car to do!!!  If I HAD to have a Charger that would be it.
Your workmanship is awesome.
Now get back to work!!
Ron

[69 OUR/TEA]

Paul looks like an excellent car to do!!!  If I HAD to have a Charger that would be it.
Your workmanship is awesome.
Now get back to work!!
Ron

Hey Ron,thanks!!!!How ya been,long time no talk? I think you'll like the future thread of a 72 GTX resto  better,it's in your fav colors !!!LOL

[bill440rt]