Firefighters Ambushed

[bakerhillpins]

 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/12/24/167963528/firefighters-responding-to-blaze-near-rochester-n-y-shot-and-killed


http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new-york-firefighters-shooting/index.html

(CNN) - Four firefighters were shot, two fatally, while responding to a blaze in upstate New York on Monday, and investigators believe the shooter set a trap to lure them to the scene.

[bakerhillpins]

I have had the very unnerving experience of responding to a fire scene that was an active manhunt. Troopers with automatic weapons on the fireground isnt fun at all.

[nvrbdn]

terrible experience. 

[JB400]

Read about that on Yahoo.  That's a bad deal.  Reason to believe the shooters were the arsonists as well.  Best of wishes to thier families

[nh_mopar_fan]

WTF.

What the hell is wrong with this world.  

[Tilar]

I suggest someone is paying people to do this to make guns look bad.

[resq302]

As a volunteer fireman, I have heard of this happening before only in bad, big cities where they booby trap the floors or set up other kinds of traps for firemen.  Sick world we live in where they try to hurt the ones helping us!

[Old Moparz]

I saw that story & just don't get it. I suppose it goes hand in hand with all the other whackoloons that want to take down as many people as they can before they go.

My uncle is a retired NYC fireman & told me of stories like that close to 30 years ago. They would show up at a fire & sometimes shots were fired at them from the adjacent buildings. Things were thrown from rooftops as well. He also said there were booby traps in the buildings designed to take out anyone who entered searching for people. One common & low cost trap was to have pit bulls in a room ready to attack.

[tan top]

WTF.

What the hell is wrong with this world.  

exactly , sickening 

[Lennard]

May they rest in peace.

[TruckDriver]

And at the same time, they found a 30yo female cop riddled with bullets while on duty when she didnt check in when she was supposed near Milwaukee, Wi..  So far they have no clue who did it.

http://fox6now.com/2012/12/24/heavy-police-presence-in-wauwatosa-near-underwood-harmony/

[Mike DC]

 

I suggest someone is paying people to do this to make guns look bad.

[Tilar]

 

I suggest someone is paying people to do this to make guns look bad.

Hey give me a break, I was celebrating new years eve a little early. 

[Todd Wilson]

All this will stop in January when we get the gun ban!


Todd

[Mike DC]

 

Aren't guns already banned?  

I remember tons of people standing in line to buy guns & ammo about this time 4 years ago.  

[JB400]

The guy that done the killings said that's what he enjoys doing, killing people.   He left a note.



http://news.yahoo.com/man-killed-2-firemen-left-note-killing-plan-165807219.html

[Tilar]

Why was that son of a bitch even still alive? Because of the bleeding hearts wanting to do away with the death penalty. He should have never been allowed out of prison to begin with.

[Patronus]

Makes me 
This world is a shit hole.

[NHCharger]

Why was that son of a bitch even still alive? Because of the bleeding hearts wanting to do away with the death penalty. He should have never been allowed out of prison to begin with.

Yeah, I don't get it. Beats his 92 y.o. grandmother to death with a hammer and doesn't get life??

[Paul G]

The problem with the world today is we cant take out the trash when it starts to stink. Beat grandma to death with a hammer and is allowed to walk the streets among us once again. What in Gods name should we expect to happen? Now two family's are in mourning on Christmas day. We really need to wise up come another election day and get this country back on sane ground. This country needs an enema!

[TruckDriver]

This pretty much sums up our country now. This was writen by a Tawas City Mi. news paper editor this year.

[Patronus]

The polls will do nothing, they have and always will be for themselves, every one of them. I pray for the day, standing in the streets, shoulder to shoulder with my fellows and pitchforks ready.

[Paul G]

I have to say, I remember people talking about the third world war and hoping it never happens. I think we should be more concerned about the second civil war. I know I am probably not alone in my thinking when I say half of our population have lost the sense of morality and knowing what is right from wrong.

[skip68]

And they want to ban guns but let this sick mother fu%^er out?     I like how they bring up the type of gun he had saying it was like the one at the school shooting.   You really want to blame somebody,??? blame the system for letting him out that gave him the chance to get the gun.  What more signs do you need that this person will kill?   Time to get medieval on these criminals......AN EYE FOR AN EYE.     NO MORE PLEA DEALS EITHER!  THE MURDERER CAN PLEA FOR HIS LIFE THE SAME AS HIS VICTIM DID WITH THE SAME ENDING!  Case closed, next defendant.....

[Patronus]

I'd have to agree skip. The only thing drawing attention to the weapon will do is increase their value. Clearly it's our system of laws and their manipulation. 

[Old Moparz]

He was a convicted felon, good thing he wasn't allowed to own a gun.  

Laws we have aren't enforced, so news laws will be useless. I remember in the late 80's when there was a shooting in NJ where some politician full of hot air had tons of support from his zombie followers. He grandstanded that a new law was needed that would make it illegal for a kid to kill someone in a school zone. I thought it was already illegal for a kid to buy a gun & already illegal to kill someone.  

Bunch of nimrods wasting time, energy & money on useless s**t.

[TheGhost]

I don't understand.  It was illegal for him to have a gun.  There was no possible way for him to get a gun, since it was illegal.  Logically, that should have prevented this tragedy.  HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!

[nvrbdn]

ill tell you how. i was driving through indiana heading to pick up a coronet. on the way home we stopped at a flea market and they had a guy selling guns and ammo. he said pick something out. i said that i was out of state, he said i dont care. hand me some cash and pick a gun out and go. 

[Paul G]

ill tell you how. i was driving through indiana heading to pick up a coronet. on the way home we stopped at a flea market and they had a guy selling guns and ammo. he said pick something out. i said that i was out of state, he said i dont care. hand me some cash and pick a gun out and go. 

So what did you pick up?

[Paul G]

I don't understand.  It was illegal for him to have a gun.  There was no possible way for him to get a gun, since it was illegal.  Logically, that should have prevented this tragedy.  HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!

It is illegal to carry a weapon of any kind in the city of Chicago but yet they have the highest rate of violent crime, murder, shooting in the country right now. All those acts are illegal, so maybe they need even more laws to prevent those types of violent acts, ya think!. The pin head politicians sit in the comfy big offices with there armed security waiting for them outside. They think more laws are the answer. I think new politicians are the answer.

[Patronus]

I don't understand.  It was illegal for him to have a gun.  There was no possible way for him to get a gun, since it was illegal.  Logically, that should have prevented this tragedy.  HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!

Now that IS funny.

[Mike DC]

        

Yeah, I don't get it. Beats his 92 y.o. grandmother to death with a hammer and doesn't get life??

That's an easy fix.   

We need a 10-day waiting period to buy hammers.  Register all hammer owners, don't allow sales without paperwork, do a govt buy-back program, etc.   

[skip68]

But what we don't know is what kind of hammer was it?      Was it a regular hammer or commercial grade?   The general public should not have commercial grade hammers because they don't need that much of a hammer....   Was it a 16oz? or the big boy?   

[Patronus]

Framing or finish, either way Im sure it'd stick in your skull.

[Paul G]

I bet it was military issue, There is no reason for anyone to own a military issue hammer.

[Paul G]

And what about the fire starter? What did he use to light the fire? Was it an easily accessible Bic lighter? Did he use the free stick or book matches you can pick up at a smoke shop? That has to stop. I say we need more fire starter regulations and maybe even a law suit against the Bic lighter corporation.This has gone far enough, we need fire starter regulations to get these things under control. 

[oldgold69]

how about newspapers did he use a newspaper to start the fire  even if he didnt we should ban newspaper  so no one could start a fire  just as stupid as gun laws