Does threatening to raise the price, really help you sell.

[ACUDANUT]

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/3480615478.html

[ACUDANUT]

Give me you money now, or the price goes up. 

[Ghoste]

Yeah, that always makes me buy quickly.  That along with, there is another guy on his way over with the money (which actually could be true), or someone else offered me more (then why didn't you take it stupid) or my all time favorite, if you don't buy it I will crush it (sure you will and if you run out of gas in your daily driver you will burn it to the ground).

[F8-4life]

To me that says the seller is a unstable peice of work...thats not how you sell a car. Let him raise it
Oh, and if he'll take 4k for the next 2 days,that tells me he probably got the car for 3k or less, and is just playing stupid games hoping to catch a buyer.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I had a car for sale for $32k, then lowered to $29k, still didn't sell... Added about $8k worth of work to the car and listed for $42k, and got really close to that. In the end, I made the car more desirable, and sold for even more of a profit. I had just over $23k invested, total. Owned the car for about 3 years.

But to the specific ad mentioned, he's trying to get people to buy, with a sense of urgency. It might work - or not...

[Dino]

'if I haven't sold it by Thursday morning I'll either keep it or raise the price again to 6k'

Note the word 'again'   

[Ghoste]

It isn't the worst looking Charger out there for that price though.

[kikgas01]

Yep, "again." Probably been for sale for a year.

[Dino]

It isn't the worst looking Charger out there for that price though.

No it's not, but it will be if he keeps jacking the price.

[kikgas01]

I agree, if it was close, I would buy it right now.

[skip68]

heck yah for an ac car.  not bad.

[RCKSTR]

if you don't buy it I will crush it (sure you will).

Didnt one of our own memebers threaten to do this with a general lee? What kind of mopar guy would crush a charger just because they cant get their jacked up asking price? 

[68X426]

To me that says the seller is a unstable peice of work...

Hoping to catch an unstable rich guy 

[JB400]

 

[Ghoste]

if you don't buy it I will crush it (sure you will).

Didnt one of our own memebers threaten to do this with a general lee? What kind of mopar guy would crush a charger just because they cant get their jacked up asking price? 

I can't remember the details but I do recall it being a point of discussion.

[tan top]

 looks pretty good from the pictures ,   its at 6k now

[tan top]

looks a lot better than most for double the price , although underside could be rotted out 

[Ghoste]

Could be, and with it listed in the Jacksonville CL it could have all of that hidden salt air damage those cars can have but it does seem to be priced more in the project zone than a lot of other more obviously rotted projects.

[NHCharger]

He says typical Mopar rust, which means rust in every panel. Also mentions the roof is so rusted it need to be replaced. that's not a job for a beginner.

[bull]

He must have heard you. There are no pricing threats in the text now.

[BB1]

I always play fair, sold many things on here, not one complaint.

To bad people are in it for the money, can't stand people like that.  

[Lennard]

He must have heard you. There are no pricing threats in the text now.

Probably a visitor here.

[Daytona R/T SE]

No title

[Cooter]

if you don't buy it I will crush it (sure you will).

Didnt one of our own memebers threaten to do this with a general lee? What kind of mopar guy would crush a charger just because they cant get their jacked up asking price?  

I assume your referring to the many times I've referred to these low ball POS people when I was basically trying to GIVE mine away @$15K, I would very much so take a video of it after I stripped it down and made the money I needed from it and crush it, send you the video, then watch as your low ballin' ass saw yet another Charger go to that graveyard in the sky. Is it considered "Right" here? Surely not, but maybe someone will get the message instead of just tippy toeing around it like most do. I have been on the other end of the scale as well. Went to look at a 1970 440 6 Pack Cuda body, car was fairly solid so I made the guy an offer around $200 lower than he was asking (Asking $1000 W/ title)..Dude came back with "You knew that price was a deal, why would you even try to piss me off like that? I mean, that's like an insult man"....

Price went up, so I had to pay $1400 for a body I knew was well worth $1K....Best lesson I ever learned.
Haven't had to do it with a Mopar yet, but I did strip down (and took a video of it being crushed), a NICE 1968 Chevelle SS396 Body I tried like hell to sell for $600.00 one time.

[Ghoste]

No, I don't think he meant you.  I seem to recall a few years ago someone purporting to be quite serious that if they didn't get their price the car would be crushed.  I can't remember details so it may not have been a GL and its possible there is some confusion with your car there (or not) but this was a different thread I'm fairly sure.

[bill440rt]

$1400 for a 1970 440-6 'Cuda solid body, with title, is an outright steal.

[Cooter]

$1400 for a 1970 440-6 'Cuda solid body, with title, is an outright steal.

It was 25 years ago too. It wasn't a "Cream puff" by no means, but it was what I REFER TO as "Fairly solid". It needed more than most here would put into it 25 years ago, but it was what it was...I almost kept it, but alas, a buddy seemed to REALLY want the car and he offered more than I paid, AND I got a '69 Super bee for it..

[moparstuart]

here is one we had this bought from this ass hat and then he decides hes getting to many calls so he ups the price


    well a week later he's still got it bad motor and all , he just had to have christmas money too .   

   http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/3487160569.html

[Cooter]

"With a used engine swap this beast will already put you back in the positive."


Then, I wonder why he hasn't?
This reminds me of a deal I had working on a '55 Chevy one time. I had talked to the lady and she offered ME THE CAR at HER PRICE. I agreed. it was a fair price though.
Not a steal, but fair...Here comes this jackwad that wasn't even interested in the '55, just some old tractors, tells her that thing has GOT TO BE WORTH AT LEAST $10K...Thanks idiot.

[moparstuart]

"With a used engine swap this beast will already put you back in the positive."


Then, I wonder why he hasn't?
This reminds me of a deal I had working on a '55 Chevy one time. I had talked to the lady and she offered ME THE CAR at HER PRICE. I agreed. it was a fair price though.
Not a steal, but fair...Here comes this jackwad that wasn't even interested in the '55, just some old tractors, tells her that thing has GOT TO BE WORTH AT LEAST $10K...Thanks idiot.

its the 4.7 and even my wholesale cost on a decent mile junk 4.7 motor is 2 k 
and they are pretty labor intensive so to make a good profit with the miles on it its not a break the bank money maker  .  Plus its the principle that we had it bought and then he jacked up the price after we had a deal .

[F8-4life]

The buyer-seller relationship is a power struggle... to achieve the most profit for either party. And people are stubbern by nature. Soo, that means stupidity is bound to happen.

[JB400]

What I don't like is when you go to buy a parts car, you agree on a price.  I go back the next day to pay for it, and he has done stripped off all the parts off of it after you agree on a price before it was stripped.  He didn't tell me he was going to strip it when we agreed on the price.

[Ghoste]

That happened to another member on here too recently.  He agreed on a price for a Charger and when he went to pick it up, parts had been stripped.

[Lennard]

That happened to another member on here too recently.  He agreed on a price for a Charger and when he went to pick it up, parts had been stripped.

Then you should just walk away with your money still in your pocket.

[Ghoste]

Thats what I would do.

[JB400]

That's what I did

[RCKSTR]

if you don't buy it I will crush it (sure you will).

Didnt one of our own memebers threaten to do this with a general lee? What kind of mopar guy would crush a charger just because they cant get their jacked up asking price?  

I assume your referring to the many times I've referred to these low ball POS people when I was basically trying to GIVE mine away @$15K, I would very much so take a video of it after I stripped it down and made the money I needed from it and crush it, send you the video, then watch as your low ballin' ass saw yet another Charger go to that graveyard in the sky. Is it considered "Right" here? Surely not, but maybe someone will get the message instead of just tippy toeing around it like most do. I have been on the other end of the scale as well. Went to look at a 1970 440 6 Pack Cuda body, car was fairly solid so I made the guy an offer around $200 lower than he was asking (Asking $1000 W/ title)..Dude came back with "You knew that price was a deal, why would you even try to piss me off like that? I mean, that's like an insult man"....

Price went up, so I had to pay $1400 for a body I knew was well worth $1K....Best lesson I ever learned.
Haven't had to do it with a Mopar yet, but I did strip down (and took a video of it being crushed), a NICE 1968 Chevelle SS396 Body I tried like hell to sell for $600.00 one time.

No it wasnt you, there was another thread some guy was raving about crushing his car. You're only asking 15K for your car? I'll give you $14,652.77 but you have to deliver it to the north west. Just kidding  Your  car is definately worth the asking price IMO.

[1974dodgecharger]

I would rather keep my money in my pocket than deal with such sellers....Ill happily keep 20k plus in my damn pocket (suite case) than give my money to someone who thinks that their stuff is worth more than gold or quotes barret jackson auctions etc.

[RCKSTR]

I agree. You saw my "help me value this car" thread. I kept my cash and Im still walking. Im not overpaying for a car because they think its worth a lot more than it is. I have no problem paying fair market value for what a car is worth, but not someones over inflated vision of a price.

[Cooter]

That's ok, just wait until the mighty dollar isn't worth the paper it's printed on......THEN, we'll see how many think their money is worth it's weight in gold.

[JB400]

Funny, considering the gov. is thinking about retiring the paper dollar and going permanently with dollar coins.  That's only for the $1

[1974dodgecharger]

That's ok, just wait until the mighty dollar isn't worth the paper it's printed on......THEN, we'll see how many think their money is worth it's weight in gold.

which does not equal a higher value for the charger either  you act like we buyers think our cash is worth its weight in gold is equivalent to the saying the charger is equal to gold itself.

To me 20k in cash is 20k in cash period vs buying a charger from somene who quotes barret jackson auction sites all day or gives the quote of if you put x amount of dollars into this and this will triple in value etc...

Either way its my choice what I want to do with my money and not the owner who owns the charger telling me what to do.... 

[RCKSTR]

Have a look at this thing..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-/221168256228?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item337ea7c4e4

What the hell is this guy on? Thats a 5K charger. "Price will go up the more I do to it" Thats gonna be a $75k car after he gets it running and his precious turbine wheels on it 

[RCKSTR]

Also a monetary bill (any denomination) weights one gram. One gram of gold is roughly $51, so if you paid in $50 bills, your cash would be worth its weight in gold. 

[Ghoste]

Also a monetary bill (any denomination) weights one gram. One gram of gold is roughly $51, so if you paid in $50 bills, your cash would be worth its weight in gold. 

[1974dodgecharger]

 

[hatersaurusrex]

You guys crack me up.  A car is only 'worth' bottom dollar around here.  That dude won't get 15K for his car but he may well get close to 10K.

[1974dodgecharger]

You guys crack me up.  A car is only 'worth' bottom dollar around here.  That dude won't get 15K for his car but he may well get close to 10K.

Yeah, but if we dont buy it he can raise the price and get more..its reverse of the reverse psychology he is using a technique never saw done before.

[Cooter]

Have a look at this thing..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-/221168256228?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item337ea7c4e4

What the hell is this guy on? Thats a 5K charger. "Price will go up the more I do to it" Thats gonna be a $75k car after he gets it running and his precious turbine wheels on it  

And of course, you would be the "Expert" on pricing of said Charger??? dude can ASK whatever he wants. It certainly must break your balls to know no matter how much whining and complaining about how "Overpriced" these cars are, you guys are STILL seeing these cars priced the same way.

"Price will go up the more I do to it" ....Ok, so he does more work, requiring more investing of money...He deserves to just give all that away because someone's broke, trolling ass can't afford it??  Um, yeah, good luck with that one.

[RCKSTR]

Just cause you guys think your garabge is worth 20 grand doesnt mean the rest of the sane world does. If you've had a car for sale for a long time, and cant sell it, you refuse to believe its overpriced. You sit there and bitch no one has money, when really you arent smart enough to follow the trends of cars to see what they are really worth. Not our problem, you can strip and crush your cars, just dont come whining to us with "everyone is broke" when you got good offers but your head is too far up your ass to realize it.

[Cooter]

Just cause you guys think your garabge is worth 20 grand doesnt mean the rest of the sane world does.

Obviously, you haven't been paying attention to the pricing lately...Simply because someone is broke and can't afford that Mercedes, doesn't mean these types are the new "Trend". It simply means, you can't afford it. While some cars are "Overpriced" for what they seem to be, Labor is labor, paint and materials still cost money, sheet metal still costs money. Last time I checked, no one is looking to lose money come time to sell. Only thing bothers most is they usually do sell eventually. All you have to do is wait out the broke people. It's usually a 50 to one ratio. Meaning, you have to go through 50 lawballin', can't afford the fuel, let alone the car, people to get to the one that has the cash.

[hatersaurusrex]

Just cause you guys think your garabge is worth 20 grand doesnt mean the rest of the sane world does.

Obviously, you haven't been paying attention to the pricing lately...Simply because someone is broke and can't afford that Mercedes, doesn't mean these types are the new "Trend". It simply means, you can't afford it. While some cars are "Overpriced" for what they seem to be, Labor is labor, paint and materials still cost money, sheet metal still costs money. Last time I checked, no one is looking to lose money come time to sell. Only thing bothers most is they usually do sell eventually. All you have to do is wait out the broke people. It's usually a 50 to one ratio. Meaning, you have to go through 50 lawballin', can't afford the fuel, let alone the car, people to get to the one that has the cash.

I'd agree.   There are obviously wayyyy overpriced cars out there, and those selling them are a combination of people who are unrealistic (the ubiquitous 'put 5K into this car and it'll be worth 3x as much.  What, why am I not doing that? Uhhh...') or are testing the market to see if someone impulse buys without doing research.    What they actually sell for is usually much less than the initial asking price after time/reality set in.    Those who can't sell a rustbucket for 30K will either get realistic and lower it, or  just sit on it and hope that one day Jay Leno will show up with a bankroll.

My only rub on here is cars that, given a few months, very likely will sell for good money being talked about as being worth half what they're listed for. The word 'worth' is very important.  Again, something is only worth what someone will pay for it, and just because one person would only give 5K doesn't mean someone else won't give 10K for the same car.    Then there are cars that nobody will give 50K for, and that means universally that they're not worth 50K.   Any price within the realistic range of what someone will show up and pay for in a given circumstance/time period can be said to be acceptable as what the car is 'worth'. I personally wouldn't give 500 bucks for an 82 Honda, but that doesn't mean it's only worth 500 bucks on the open market, just 500 to me.

I'm glad a lot of guys on this board are helpful and give useful input, and this is a great community overall, but the amount of smugness on here is sickening.   If I wanted to read condescending posts by douchebags I'd go to a wine tasting forum and hang out with the half-assed hipsters there.

[Cooter]

I'm glad a lot of guys on this board are helpful and give useful input, and this is a great community overall, but the amount of smugness on here is sickening.   If I wanted to read condescending posts by douchebags I'd go to a wine tasting forum and hang out with the half-assed hipsters there.

Then, you better simply leave the internet all together, as there's at least one in every croud. Especially, when the "Put down every car that's being offered for sale, even though I personally am gonna hide behind the "Helping out potential buyers" thing, when in reality, I'm so pissed that someone might actually make a few dollars on a car that's clearly worth every penny, that I just HAVE TO add in my .02 people begin to post.

Yeah, if you don't want to hear sh*t you don't want to hear, Lemme know when you find that Utopia, as I been looking for it for a long time.

[Dino]

I'm glad a lot of guys on this board are helpful and give useful input, and this is a great community overall, but the amount of smugness on here is sickening.   If I wanted to read condescending posts by douchebags I'd go to a wine tasting forum and hang out with the half-assed hipsters there.

Hey now, we are much better douchebags than those wine'rs!  And most of us are quarter assed to boot.

[Ghoste]

I wonder if that Utopian website exists in a parallel universe someplace where right now someone is  complaining about the fact that everything someone asks what a car is worth everybody posts what an awesome steal it is and that its grossly underpriced and likely the most perfect example of that car ever and they are going to contact the seller and tell him to raise the price quickly.

[1974dodgecharger]

I wonder if that Utopian website exists in a parallel universe someplace where right now someone is  complaining about the fact that everything someone asks what a car is worth everybody posts what an awesome steal it is and that its grossly underpriced and likely the most perfect example of that car ever and they are going to contact the seller and tell him to raise the price quickly.

There is a place but the kicker is no one wants to go....think about if the person complains about this place why has he or she not left.....hahhahahahaha

[marshallfry01]

Have a look at this thing..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-/221168256228?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item337ea7c4e4

What the hell is this guy on? Thats a 5K charger. "Price will go up the more I do to it" Thats gonna be a $75k car after he gets it running and his precious turbine wheels on it 

If I remember right, this car was on CL for $10,000. Now eBay for $16,000??? It didn't sell for ten so why would it sell for more? And I just love a one picture add. They must not want to sell it too bad or they would post more than one picture of it.

[JB400]

Have a look at this thing..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-/221168256228?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item337ea7c4e4

What the hell is this guy on? Thats a 5K charger. "Price will go up the more I do to it" Thats gonna be a $75k car after he gets it running and his precious turbine wheels on it  

I rarely look at these links, but obviously, this guy doesn't know a darn thing about our cars.  Special ordered with turn signal holes in the hood and a 383 4bbl. A clueless idiot looking to sell to a clueless buyer.  Do some damn research.

[1974dodgecharger]

Emailed seller he told me these GLs r special order direct from dodge.  He is a flipper for sure does not know a lick of these cars


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Have a look at this thing..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-/221168256228?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item337ea7c4e4

What the hell is this guy on? Thats a 5K charger. "Price will go up the more I do to it" Thats gonna be a $75k car after he gets it running and his precious turbine wheels on it  

I rarely look at these links, but obviously, this guy doesn't know a darn thing about our cars.  Special ordered with turn signal holes in the hood and a 383 4bbl. A clueless idiot looking to sell to a clueless buyer.  Do some damn research.
[/quote]

[Cooter]

There is a place but the kicker is no one wants to go....think about if the person complains about this place why has he or she not left.....hahhahahahaha

It never ceases to amaze me...This place of all places should be happy these cars aren't selling for peanuts. Yet, everybody here wants them for nothing... Maybe there is a place like Ghoste describes? Maybe that place is reallity, and all the tire kickers are living in an alternate reallity as almost every ad I see posted here seems to have that universal theme. Still asking what folks here consider too much. Maybe the folks here are the Lowballers??? Maybe they should leave?

[F8-4life]

If you guys think this site has it bad you havent been around the internet much... this site is that utopia compared to some others Im on.

[F8-4life]

And also dont confuse someones internet "post" with actual reality or some die hard opinion...people play around on the internet, thats just how it is. Then others get upset because of the bs..Ive been on both sides of it adnd their is literally no winner. The problem is people take things personally thru their own veiwpoint when they read something but guess what...maybe the other poster, posted his thoughts in a general sense, or in response to someone else entirally. NObody really cares much about some random guys opinion on the web, the problem starts when said opinion clashes with our own

[Cooter]

If you guys think this site has it bad you havent been around the internet much... this site is that utopia compared to some others Im on.

MOPARTS....

[Ghoste]

I don't care whether these cars are worhtless or priceless as long as I can still play.  I do however have a huge problem with people wanting giant money for pos or advertising them with bs like "this GL was special ordered from Dodge".  Lets just say that Abraham Lincoln was a muslim and Osama Bin Laden was actually Elvis Presely getting his revenge on the US for getting rid of his pal Nixon.  One lie is as valid as the next.

[Dino]

One lie is as valid as the next.

It is?  Tss and here I am inventing believable lies.

[Ghoste]

That takes work Dino, just make up any old thing.  Whatever it takes to sell the car.

[Dino]

I think the best way to sell a car for a lot of dough is to make a huge dent in the car and claim it resembles Jesus or whoever it was they found on that piece of toast several years back.  If you can get $28K for a piece of Jesus toast you should be able to make a few hundred grand on a Jesus car!

[Ghoste]

Elvis stains on the interior are good too, not as good as Jesus toast but not bad either.

[Cooter]

You gotta admit, Somebody got paid for that "Jesus toast". Why not get paid for a bogus car? I mena, one born every minute right? Don't hate the Playa' and all that jazz.

[RCKSTR]

You gotta admit, Somebody got paid for that "Jesus toast". Why not get paid for a bogus car? I mena, one born every minute right? Don't hate the Playa' and all that jazz.

If you are unaware, sure. Or if you do know, be an honest person and not f**k people.