Help me value this car please

[RCKSTR]

Hey Guys

Im looking at buying this car. Id like to get honest "what you would pay for it" prices. I think its priced a little high. Opinons please!

Heres what I know about it.

Its not a real R/T, its an XP29 car. It was born a 383 2bbl 727 car. It still has original engine but 4bbl on it now. The 727 was replaced with an A-833. The steering wheel, pedals, shifter, and mirrors are not second gen charger. The seat and seat belts are not B body. The paint job sucks. Its peeling in the jambs, and the underhood/engine compartment werent painted. The rear valance has had the seams filled in. Both door panles need to be replaced. The grille trim is mangled. Drivers door looks like its sagging. Im sure there is a lot more so feel free to add to the list.

Thanks guys!

[Ghoste]

10k?

[moparstuart]

10k?

10 to 12 k   

[RCKSTR]

10k?

10 to 12 k   

Asking price is more than double...

[NHCharger]

Asking price is more than double...

Up here you could probably get 14-15. 25k?? he has to stop watching the BJ auctions.

[kikgas01]

Asking price is more than double...

Up here you could probably get 14-15. 25k?? he has to stop watching the BJ auctions.

You said BJ!

[greenpigs]

Some of the panels fitment leave something to be desired.

[skip68]

My honest opinion is the $16-18K range.   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

10k?

10 to 12 k   

Asking price is more than double...

You listed a bunch of negatives, but no positives. Save yourself the hassles & get one of these instead..... 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Challenger-2dr-Cpe-R-T-Gift-all-ages-16-/190769048572?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c6ab8abfc

[Ghoste]

10k?

10 to 12 k   

Asking price is more than double...

Its a 383 two barrel car thats been well boogered up and has a bunch of problems that can be be seen in the photos.  I hate to imagine what lurks under the skin.

[RCKSTR]

10k?

10 to 12 k  

Asking price is more than double...

You listed a bunch of negatives, but no positives. Save yourself the hassles & get one of these instead.....  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Challenger-2dr-Cpe-R-T-Gift-all-ages-16-/190769048572?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c6ab8abfc

If I was looking to buy a new challenger, I would be on a forum for new challengers wouldn't I? Not a very helpful reply.
Everyone here knows the positives of a 69 charger.

[Ghoste]

Have you been able to look at the car in person?

[skip68]

I'm changing my original quote to $14k +-

[JB400]

I'm changing my original quote to $14k +-

Politican

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Everyone here knows the positives of a 69 charger. And when haggling, you don't point out its positives.

Wel then, tell us what all the positives are that are going to outweigh the laundry list of negatives.

[JB400]

Everyone here knows the positives of a 69 charger. And when haggling, you don't point out its positives.

Wel then, tell us what all the positives are that are going to outweigh the laundry list of negatives.

How about that it's a fairly complete 69 Charger in running condition.  Everything wrong with it is just cosmetic but will still let him enjoy the car until he gets the funds and parts together to get it the way he likes it.

[69rtse4spd]

If he can get it for the right price, enjoy it as you fix it. How many of us have started with worst.

[Ram07]

I gotta tell ya, from a guy looking to buy....this is where is site is really handy....no matter what you are looking for! Be it a daily driver, or show....the guys on here really know their stuff....always willing to share the info so someone like me will not get screwed over.

Me....I looked at the pics...noticed the steering wheel was wrong...thats about it...did a post about a white one not long ago....was told what to watch out for from the egal eyed friends....not much to report on that one...just told to stay away!

A big thank you for that!

[kikgas01]

Mine is kind of a heap, but will drive it anyway any chance I get...

[Ram07]

the powers that be told me about a shoddy looking frame rail patch...little peice of metal welded here...undercoating under the trunk but not the floor boards...looked fishy...so...stayed away!

[69charger2002]

Hey Guys

Im looking at buying this car. Id like to get honest "what you would pay for it" prices. I think its priced a little high. Opinons please!

Heres what I know about it.

Its not a real R/T, its an XP29 car. It was born a 383 2bbl 727 car. It still has original engine but 4bbl on it now. The 727 was replaced with an A-833. The steering wheel, pedals, shifter, and mirrors are not second gen charger. The seat and seat belts are not B body. The paint job sucks. Its peeling in the jambs, and the underhood/engine compartment werent painted. The rear valance has had the seams filled in. Both door panles need to be replaced. The grille trim is mangled. Drivers door looks like its sagging. Im sure there is a lot more so feel free to add to the list.

Thanks guys!

So you think it's priced high. what is he asking for the car?

[odcics2]

Color change, too...   

[tan top]

 like the other guys say , lots wrong  ,  no where enough pictures that show what the car is like ,   

[tippytoe]

How about that it's a fairly complete 69 Charger in running condition.  Everything wrong with it is just cosmetic but will still let him enjoy the car until he gets the funds and parts together to get it the way he likes it.

This is why I would put a value of 14-15k (as long as the car is solid & not rotten underneath).  You would definately want to see it in person first.

BTW: If it was mine, the bench seat would have to go. Never cared for them in a second gen Charger.

[F8-4life]

@ Over 15k your a smuck, under 12k your a winner... anything inbetween and your in reasonable market value imo.

[Patronus]

You'll pay $15K fully knowing its complete, yet falling apart. I wouldn't touch it, the paint's falling off! And that mirror..    
Is any of this an overseas deal? Cause then $20K ain't chit.

[1974dodgecharger]

Based on only those picks and when i look at pics Im so very gracious...i say 16k, but as forum members have said (they always bring me down to earth) its more a 12k to 14k car due to the members mentioned.

Im gonna be an 'ass' to say this, but im gonna say this is your car and you plan to sell it and you just getting some opinions on price.  Alot of the forum members do this and you seemed lik you got a little personal when someone mentioned a pretty low price in the postings.

[RCKSTR]

Its really close to me in canada, was originally an iowa car. Asking price is 25k, won't go lower than 20, I'm trying to tell him he's nuts but he's coming back with "its an iconic car and there aren't maby left" bla bla. I want him to see the car for what it is. BTW its on a used car lot. Was a bankrupty seizure.

[Cooter]

Its really close to me in canada, was originally an iowa car. Asking price is 25k, won't go lower than 20, I'm trying to tell him he's nuts but he's coming back with "its an iconic car and there aren't maby left" bla bla. I want him to see the car for what it is. BTW its on a used car lot. Was a bankrupty seizure.

Then, sounds like as long as there's one willing to pay the full monty @ $20K, you have one of two choices here....

1. Walk away without your Charger.

2. Pay the piper and buy it cause seller knows he'll sell it sooner or later. There's one born every minute, and do you feel like being that "one"?

[RCKSTR]

Everyone here knows the positives of a 69 charger. And when haggling, you don't point out its positives.

Wel then, tell us what all the positives are that are going to outweigh the laundry list of negatives.

It is a complete, running car. It is a driving project essentially that can be put back to a proper car while enjoying it.Plus its within 500 miles of me, there aren't too many drivers for sale in canada. For me, that's the biggest positive

[RCKSTR]

Based on only those picks and when i look at pics Im so very gracious...i say 16k, but as forum members have said (they always bring me down to earth) its more a 12k to 14k car due to the members mentioned.

Im gonna be an 'ass' to say this, but im gonna say this is your car and you plan to sell it and you just getting some opinions on price.  Alot of the forum members do this and you seemed lik you got a little personal when someone mentioned a pretty low price in the postings.

Its not my car, in the first post I mentioned I'm interested in buying it. I want honest opinions so I don't overpay for it.

[1974dodgecharger]

Based on only those picks and when i look at pics Im so very gracious...i say 16k, but as forum members have said (they always bring me down to earth) its more a 12k to 14k car due to the members mentioned.

Im gonna be an 'ass' to say this, but im gonna say this is your car and you plan to sell it and you just getting some opinions on price.  Alot of the forum members do this and you seemed lik you got a little personal when someone mentioned a pretty low price in the postings.

Its not my car, in the first post I mentioned I'm interested in buying it. I want honest opinions so I don't overpay for it.

seems seller is 'NUTS' already...then again your talking canadian dollars and I dont know its value well.

I say m ove on man...if he wont budge at all and let it sit there and 6 months later the guy probably email you back with his tail betwen his legs....they usually do.

[skip68]

better have a look at the quarter panels and under the car first.   

[Ghoste]

I was going to ask if its in Canada, you're in Alberta, right?

[RCKSTR]

I'm in BC but the car is only 6 hours away. He's had it all summer and couldn't sell it. I'd be a serious buyer at 15K but convincing the salesman is the hard part

[Ghoste]

Yeah, its been on Kijiji for a long time.

[1974dodgecharger]

I'm in BC but the car is only 6 hours away. He's had it all summer and couldn't sell it. I'd be a serious buyer at 15K but convincing the salesman is the hard part

as all members have told me 'SHOW HIM CASH IN A PICTURE' then see what he saids.

[Cooter]

Funny, when I had mine up for sale, I got the same "your crazy" sh*t too...Yet, It's been pulled down for almost 3 months i guess now, and I'm STILL getting phone calls asking is it for sale....

[JB400]

There is more than one 69 Charger for sale, scout around unless you just want this one.  But, the seller is crazy, but how crazy are you?

[Ghoste]

Funny, when I had mine up for sale, I got the same "your crazy" sh*t too...Yet, It's been pulled down for almost 3 months i guess now, and I'm STILL getting phone calls asking is it for sale....

Still getting calls, and yet, still unsold.

[1974dodgecharger]

Funny, when I had mine up for sale, I got the same "your crazy" sh*t too...Yet, It's been pulled down for almost 3 months i guess now, and I'm STILL getting phone calls asking is it for sale....

Still getting calls, and yet, still unsold.

Its equivalent to ebay where the final bid is the winning bid, but you then soon realize the winner does not pay.  Yet then we quote those prices to try sell our own cars......then it gets put back up 1 month later to some new folks searching.

[Cooter]

Funny, when I had mine up for sale, I got the same "your crazy" sh*t too...Yet, It's been pulled down for almost 3 months i guess now, and I'm STILL getting phone calls asking is it for sale....

Still getting calls, and yet, still unsold.

By MY Choice though..Huge difference.

[Ghoste]

There are certainly a few ways of looking at it.  We can price an item for sale and if no one is willing to pay that we can assume they are all stupid buyers, or if it sells quickly we might assume it was priced too low making us a stupid seller.  As buyers we can also color an items price however we want.  At the end of the day, whatever an item sells for is what it was worth at that moment in that situation and not a cent more.  If its unsold, then it wasn't worth that price to that group of potential buyers.  Its an old addage but its still true.

[Cooter]

Actually, I got tired of the "The economy means you need to sell me your ride cheap because that'show it is right now", People. Nothing wrong with MY economy, so therefore, I'll hold onto it until we recover and sell it for three times what people seem to "Think" it's worth right now. I remember watching the first musclecar rise, I'll watch it agian. I was Mopar BEFORE it was "Cool".

[Ghoste]

Provided your potential buyers agree with your fair market assessment of course. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

He's had it all summer and couldn't sell it.

That tells you something right there.

I'd be a serious buyer at 15K but convincing the salesman is the hard part

Even worse; it's at a used car lot. I'd walk and continue your search elsewhere. I understand that there's not too many left in your neck of the Arctic Circle, but a good car is worth travelling for.

[Ghoste]

a good car is worth travelling for.

That is some fantastic advice right there!

[charger_fan_4ever]

Get one from down south.

There is noway i'd pay $20k for that car. After you pay $20k for it and it requires all the same work as a project in a box you will have a torn apart $20k project XP car.

[RCKSTR]

Thanks guys! Love this forum! I'm walking away at $15k. You're right, there are a lot of cars in the south, I don't mind a nice weeks vacation going to get the right car,or if the car is solid I'd fly in and drive home.

[six-tee-nine]

Go over there with 15K in your pocket and tell him it's your final offer. Show him the cash and tell him if he says no you'll walk away.
If he WANTS to sell it he'll think twice before answering. If he does say no be hard on yourself and actually walk away. (You still have a chance that he changes his mind before you reach your carif he sees you mean it).

If a seller knows you instanly fell in love with what he has for sale he'll never drop his price because he knows you'll pay in the end.
If your attitude says "actually i dont care but if the price is right i might just buy you junk" your chances improve in most cases

[RCKSTR]

@ Over 15k your a smuck, under 12k your a winner... anything inbetween and your in reasonable market value imo.

Salesman said he just sold it, $24,000. I'm calling bullsh** and its still there in the spring. Either way I've moved on looking for another one!

[Ghoste]

Personally I agree with you.  Even if he is telling the truth though, you still made the right decision.

[1970Moparmann]

Personally I agree with you.  Even if he is telling the truth though, you still made the right decision.

I agree.  Keep your eyes open and buy what fits your needs/wants that is in your budget.

[1974dodgecharger]

@ Over 15k your a smuck, under 12k your a winner... anything inbetween and your in reasonable market value imo.

Salesman said he just sold it, $24,000. I'm calling bullsh** and its still there in the spring. Either way I've moved on looking for another one!

so after one year some shmuck comes out of the woodwork to buy his car hahaahahhahah......all sellers are like this that cant sell their car.  All of a sudden you give him a price and then he saids NO then you tell him why and then he saids, 'SOLD TO SOMEONE FOR A HIGH PRICE' hahahahahhaha