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Question about Zombies...the official zombie thread

Started by AKcharger, February 11, 2006, 05:52:57 PM

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If you kill a zombie is it against the law? especially if it wasn't in self-defense

bull

Quote from: AKcharger on February 25, 2006, 11:21:43 PM
If you kill a zombie is it against the law? especially if it wasn't in self-defense

Naw, not if they're already dead. They might charge you with abuse of a corpse or something... :P

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greenpigs

Rob is safe, gotta keep one around + how many zombies can write songs like Thunder Kiss 65?
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dusterxhorrorx

as far as zombies infecting sick people. they would still be ZOMBIES... i think the only thing that might slow them down is the broken limb (mainly just legs tho) factor. As far as the whole being sick, AIDS, cancer deal... COM'ON they're ZOMBIES!!!! the living dead...
ok think about this... in day of the dead the figured out that they dont need any of they're organs to "servive" so therefore, if they were riddled with disease or cancer or whatever they would still attack with the basic "animal" instict of need.... see:


so yes, they would still be zombies, and perhaps even more potent... with the whole double whammy... they'd be super zombies.

oh man. hollywood should really pay attention to the random ideas like this and write NEW movies instead of just remaking everything else. =\

again.... i completely <3 this thread! <3


Old Moparz

Now I'm wondering about something else. If a zombie (No capital "z" as per stated) were to bite someone with a contagious disease, like AIDS, would they be able to carry that infection since they're dead? They carry whatever infectious dead zombie thing they already have, but aren't most diseases in need of a living host to be able to successfully be transmitted to another?

If they can carry something like AIDS and you were bitten, that would mean not only would you become a zombie, but also become the source of a possible epidemic. Infecting a healthy human who hadn't been in contact with another AIDS victim, an introvenous drug user, or perhaps someone who may have had a transfusion, is now a new category of victim.

Someone who may be saved or cured of zombie syndrome, wouldn't be rid of all their problems. Now you'd be carrying some other death sentence with a shorter life span than expected. There isn't a cure for a lot of these diseases that have been around for years, so I wouldn't expect the CDC or any other government agency to start pumping tax dollars into zombie related diseases.

Also, the insurance companies would use the infectious zombie as a loop hole to void your health coverage & deny your claim. Something along the line of illegal contact with a corpse? You'd have to import your drugs from Canada on the black market to be able to get & afford them. Try pushing all those telephone monkey buttons waiting to explain this one to a person at the insurance office. I bet they'll never have a number option for it. ::)
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AKcharger

Well here's another off-shoot of the intravenous drug user there Moparz... (who ever thought zombies could be so complicated?) If a zombie bit/ate a drug user who was WASTED or a drunk with like a .020+ Blood Alcohol level would the zombie also be stoned or are they immune to the effects of stimulants? And if they were susceptible to the effects how could you tell...they all kind of stagger around anyway and always seem hungry  ???

greenpigs

Quote from: AKcharger on March 05, 2006, 12:14:40 AM
Well here's another off-shoot of the intravenous drug user there Moparz... (who ever thought zombies could be so complicated?) If a zombie bit/ate a drug user who was WASTED or a drunk with like a .020+ Blood Alcohol level would the zombie also be stoned or are they immune to the effects of stimulants? And if they were susceptible to the effects how could you tell...they all kind of stagger around anyway and always seem hungry  ???

You answered your own question, brains are the only driving force, they must eat. So if chopping of an arm does little being drunk is nothing to them.
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Quote from: bull on February 13, 2006, 03:02:34 PM
DEAD ALIVE (1992)

Before he became a household name with The Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson specialized in strange, low-budget horror films, the most notable being this little gem. Besides introducing a whole new league of undead that could run, flip, make their severed body parts move on their own (including their lungs and intestines), and grow to ten times their original size, Jackson also introduced the zombie sex drive.

If you've seen the film, you know what we're talking about. For those of you who haven't seen the film, we'll let your imagination do the work for you until you go to your local video rental outlet (which we recommend doing as soon as possible).


holy sheit batman... my ex-wife must have been a zombie, because she was a DEAD F*** in bed. :D :D

of course only if Peter Jackson's version is true hehe
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bull

Has anyone seen "The Quick and the Undead" yet? I picked it up at the video store last night and am wondering what I'm in for. It looks like a western/zombie flick. Hopefully it's just bad enough to be good.

AKcharger

Hooray!!!! my Zombie post was resurrected....well kind of like a zombie would be!! how ironic!


I bought this on ebay...it was $85 but if it saves me from just one zombie attack it's worth it!


konigcharger

yep... i got one of those too mine looks a little different though  :icon_smile_big:

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Drache

Ah the return of the most awesome thread ever!  :icon_smile_big:
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I saw "The Quick and the Undead" and it wasn't too bad. Not a single well-known actor in the bunch and come to find out it was an independent, straight-to-video movie that takes place in the future where the state is paying bounty hunters to collect the pinky fingers of zombies. In this one the zombie code is that you have to kill the fresh ones first (because their muscle structure is more intact so they can move faster) and then pick of the older more rotten ones later. The main character crosses into a bounty gang's territory and gets in trouble so it turns into a revenge plot with a zombie sub-plot. The script was a little goofy at times and the acting wasn't all that great but it turned out to be a pretty good B-grade horror flick overall.

Next up I'm going to see "Land of the Dead" I think. Anyone seen that one?

68chrgrwife

Quote from: Orange_Crush on February 11, 2006, 06:59:39 PM
That's usually the kind of question I ask after a few good hits on the waterpipe.

And Andrew...that's about the most disturbing avatar I've ever seen.
man i was thinking the same thing aboutthe avatar....
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68chrgrwife

Quote from: Dale The Bold on February 13, 2006, 02:19:46 PM
Many of the zombie rules are up to the individual film.  Most of them are standard, but in Romero's universe, anyone who dies becomes a zombie, so it's not so much of a virus as it is something that has happened to the world.  The Night of the Living Dead, which started it all, had something fall from outer space that affected the dead (and recently deceased).  Getting bitten by a zombie, however, just meant you were dying sooner.  Later interpretations took on the "virus" aspect.

As far as the wounded becoming zombies, someone with a broken leg would be able to walk as a zombie.  The reason is, first of all, they feel no pain.  Secondly, being a zombie means you're motivated by the extreme desire to eat the flesh of the living, that desire is enough to make you drag your decomposing corpse across a mile of salty asphalt if that's what it takes.  And even the zombies who were physically intact upon zombification often decompose to the point where they are in worse shape than someone who was injured.  I would like to see someone who spent many years in a wheelchair become a zombie that instinctively uses the wheelchair to get around.

Zombie movies need to focus more on the stench of rotting flesh.  If it were real, people would be vomitting all the time just from the stink rising above the city.  In "Land of the Dead," however, they do refer to the dead as "stenches."

I was having a conversation just last night with someone about the notion of a "zombie plague."  Since it's so often looked upon as a virus, I thought of a different take on the zombie movie genre.  What if the zombie virus was an STD?  And what if zombies didn't pursue the living to feed on them, but instead to have sex with them (and spread the zombie virus)?  That's infinitely more horrifying, I think.  The idea of a street full of walking corpses is nasty enough, but it's way worse if their sole desire is to gang-rape you with their rotting genitals.  And all it would take is sexual contact to infect their victims.  Try having that image run through your head while you sleep tonight.

great now i really am going to have bad dreams...of zombies trying to get me, instead of hubby getting killed....
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68chrgrwife

you would think that if a zombie bit someone with aids or something they wouldn't get it or be able to transmit it to someone else because they are dead...their blood is dead...thus it is unable to reproduce the virus...only a thought.

In resident evil, they were trying to use the t-virus to cure a disease that would help his daughter and himself.  it made zombies though and that "creature".  I have seen a few zombie movies (not really into them) and agree that everyone has their own set of "rules".  Just like vampire movies.  Some say a stake in the heart, some say silver bullets and others are cut their heads off.  Some can be in sunlight as long as they cover themselves.  Also, when they die they can either "blow up" into ash or wither up and die, or just lie there.  To be infected you need to be bit..others you need to be bit and then fed from your attacker their blood....anyway jsut thought I'd write and state these things.  It is obviously up to the producer of the film.  and since the same darn people keep doing the same work...we keep getting the same crap.
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Drache

Here's a list of all the zombie movies... well most maybe....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_zombie_films
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Quote from: AKcharger on February 11, 2006, 05:52:57 PM
OK you might be able to tell it's a boring rainy Saturday from this question:

My son and I were watching a zombie show on FX and were wondering; If a zombie goes into a hospital and bites (infects) the patients in that hospital will they be "cured" enough to go out an eat brains and stuff or would they be just a bunch or sick/injuried zombies?

The things that make you go "hmmm"

AK

I don' think they'd be sick/injured zombies, they should be able to do normal zombie stuff. The way I see it, a zombie is a scientifically impossible condition. If it's supernatural, as I believe it is, then physiology is not relevant.
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ds440

Has no one here read "The Zombie Survival Handbook?" 

It's a must read. :yesnod:

It claims the best weapon against a zombie attack is a titanium crowbar.  I have yet to find one made of titanium.  There are a handful of other useful tips as well. :icon_smile_cool: 


Anyone ever read "World War Z?"  Same author (Max Brooks - Mel Brooks' son).  This is a very, very important topic.... :angel:
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bull

Quote from: ds440 on March 08, 2007, 04:02:14 PM
Has no one here read "The Zombie Survival Handbook?" 

It's a must read. :yesnod:

It claims the best weapon against a zombie attack is a titanium crowbar.  I have yet to find one made of titanium.  There are a handful of other useful tips as well. :icon_smile_cool: 


Anyone ever read "World War Z?"  Same author (Max Brooks - Mel Brooks' son).  This is a very, very important topic.... :angel:

Why not a gun with titanium bullets? I mean who wants to get within two feet of a zombie just so you can use a crowbar on them? That makes no sense at all to me. Maybe I need it to be in context.

Also, anyone seen Doom or Resident Evil? I believe those both qualify as zombie flicks. Also, one of the two Rodriguez/Tarantino flicks coming out is supposed to be a zombie flick, with Mopars no less!

Drache

As in almost all of the zombie flicks I've seen, the zombies keep whatever deformaties they had when alive. Thus you see zombies walking around missing limbs, with broken bones, etc. Since a zombie is not alive, then they have no way to heal themselves. 28 Days Later was a good version of a "zombie" type flick. Instead of the people becoming undead, they became infected with what was called "Rage" and tried to kill anyone close to them and eat them. "Rage" was a human created super "rabies" which got passed onto humans from a testing monkey.
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Quote from: 1 of 74 on March 08, 2007, 04:08:07 PM

Why not a gun with titanium bullets? I mean who wants to get within two feet of a zombie just so you can use a crowbar on them? That makes no sense at all to me. Maybe I need it to be in context.


You'll eventually run out of ammo.  The other thing - zombies are attracted to noise.  Furthermore, in a full scale zombie-outbreak-pandemonium, you'll need a weapon that also doubles as a useful tool.  A crowbar works well as far as breaking into abandoned building, shopping centers, etc.  The book explains the whole scenario - it's pretty amusing. ;)

Yeah, it's gruesome to get up close and bash a zombie's skull....but nobody said zombie killin' was easy. :icon_smile_tongue:
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AKcharger

Quote from: Drache on March 08, 2007, 04:20:23 PM
As in almost all of the zombie flicks I've seen, the zombies keep whatever deformaties they had when alive. Thus you see zombies walking around missing limbs, with broken bones, etc. Since a zombie is not alive, then they have no way to heal themselves. 28 Days Later was a good version of a "zombie" type flick. Instead of the people becoming undead, they became infected with what was called "Rage" and tried to kill anyone close to them and eat them. "Rage" was a human created super "rabies" which got passed onto humans from a testing monkey.

Well I agree to a point, we're not talking about spontaneous regeneration of limbs but about basic functions. If someone is bed ridden, then attacked and bitten by a zombie then can get up and walk about (never saw a zombie in a wheel chair) then we can argue that some form of healing/repair has occurred...so there are therapeutic benefits of zombism.

68chagrwife...I'd think AIDS STDs COULD be passed because of the fundamental regeneration of dead cells/organs in the zombization process. Certinly it would be a mutated form of AIDS/STD but fearsome none the less.