Question about Zombies...the official zombie thread

[bull]

Why not a gun with titanium bullets? I mean who wants to get within two feet of a zombie just so you can use a crowbar on them? That makes no sense at all to me. Maybe I need it to be in context.

You'll eventually run out of ammo.  The other thing - zombies are attracted to noise.  Furthermore, in a full scale zombie-outbreak-pandemonium, you'll need a weapon that also doubles as a useful tool.  A crowbar works well as far as breaking into abandoned building, shopping centers, etc.  The book explains the whole scenario - it's pretty amusing.

Yeah, it's gruesome to get up close and bash a zombie's skull....but nobody said zombie killin' was easy.

I buy some of that but when there's 15 zombies coming at you a crowbar isn't going to get you very far.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

I am a huge fan of zombie movies, my fave are the Resident evil series( i own the prop used to carry the T-VIRUS in the 1st film), ive seen dawn of the dead(original and remake),The land of the dead,Night of the living dead(original, cant find remake and the 3rd remake was only released in 3d in only the states) also has anyone see Day of the living dead?? they are at my movie store but i wanna know if they are worth renting ,Anyone??? and yes the new tarantino flick is 2 movies in 1, 1st half is zombies,2nd half is mopars/kurt russle as a murderer psychopath)




LINK TO TRAILER FOR THE 3RD AND FINAL INSTALLMENT OF THE RESIDENT EVIL SERIES, RESIDENT EVIL: EXTINCTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O_hQI9HrTQ

[konigcharger]

As in almost all of the zombie flicks I've seen, the zombies keep whatever deformaties they had when alive. Thus you see zombies walking around missing limbs, with broken bones, etc. Since a zombie is not alive, then they have no way to heal themselves. 28 Days Later was a good version of a "zombie" type flick. Instead of the people becoming undead, they became infected with what was called "Rage" and tried to kill anyone close to them and eat them. "Rage" was a human created super "rabies" which got passed onto humans from a testing monkey.

Well I agree to a point, we're not talking about spontaneous regeneration of limbs but about basic functions. If someone is bed ridden, then attacked and bitten by a zombie then can get up and walk about (never saw a zombie in a wheel chair) then we can argue that some form of healing/repair has occurred...so there are therapeutic benefits of zombism.

68chagrwife...I'd think AIDS STDs COULD be passed because of the fundamental regeneration of dead cells/organs in the zombization process. Certinly it would be a mutated form of AIDS/STD but fearsome none the less.

i agree, zombies have to be at least on some molecular level life. the move, react, and generally act alive just no heartbeat, breathing, etc...

therefore it is my opinion cellular regeneration is possible. however without a constant blood supply a slow process.

also they don't react to painful stimulus (generally) therefore things like broken bones or arthritis would not keep them bedridden

     

[moparsuebear]

Hooray!!!! my Zombie post was resurrected....well kind of like a zombie would be!! how ironic!


I bought this on ebay...it was $85 but if it saves me from just one zombie attack it's worth it!

Ahhhhhhh, that explains the missing 85 bucks from our checking account that I could just not figure out!!!!! LOL  Hey Babe, only 52 more days and you'll be home!!! Woooooohooooooo!  Hope all of you reading this are feeling sorry for me that I've had to spend the past year without this awesome guy (akcharger)!!!!!

[68chrgrwife]

As in almost all of the zombie flicks I've seen, the zombies keep whatever deformaties they had when alive. Thus you see zombies walking around missing limbs, with broken bones, etc. Since a zombie is not alive, then they have no way to heal themselves. 28 Days Later was a good version of a "zombie" type flick. Instead of the people becoming undead, they became infected with what was called "Rage" and tried to kill anyone close to them and eat them. "Rage" was a human created super "rabies" which got passed onto humans from a testing monkey.

Well I agree to a point, we're not talking about spontaneous regeneration of limbs but about basic functions. If someone is bed ridden, then attacked and bitten by a zombie then can get up and walk about (never saw a zombie in a wheel chair) then we can argue that some form of healing/repair has occurred...so there are therapeutic benefits of zombism.

68chagrwife...I'd think AIDS STDs COULD be passed because of the fundamental regeneration of dead cells/organs in the zombization process. Certinly it would be a mutated form of AIDS/STD but fearsome none the less.

i agree, zombies have to be at least on some molecular level life. the move, react, and generally act alive just no heartbeat, breathing, etc...

therefore it is my opinion cellular regeneration is possible. however without a constant blood supply a slow process.

also they don't react to painful stimulus (generally) therefore things like broken bones or arthritis would not keep them bedridden

     

but without a heartbeat the blood couldn't go anywhere, thus no regeneration...

[AKcharger]

No No It's proven that Zombie hearts DO beat...but at 1/2 the normal speed (due no doubt to the zombization process) I think that helps to explain why they move so slow too...plus, you need a hydraulic pump (heart) to operate muscles. So if the heart didn't pump blood to the muscles they'd be immobile zombies

[konigcharger]

i have seen in lab two samples of heart tissue that was removed and it was still twitching even after the body had been autopsied (it was creepy as hell)

also blood is not made in the heart its made in the bones therefore a zombie could just over produce it to the point of saturation and there would be blood for regeneration kind of like an open circulatory open system between this theory and the fast that any good zombie would be covered in the blood of it victim means there would be blood for regeneration

[Old Moparz]

After re-reading this thread, I started to wonder about whether or not our government was prepared for a potential zombie crisis. They spend a lot of money on strange things, like grants awarded to install a window on the side of a cow so the digestion can be studied, so why not plan for a zombie crisis?

Here's what I found. The people of Pittsburgh show concern, but it turns out they are susceptible to zombies & just not prepared. Anyone worried about the readiness of where they live should contact officials soon. I know will be in touch with officials from Newburgh, NY.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41676

Study Reveals Pittsburgh Unprepared For Full-Scale Zombie Attack

PITTSBURGH
—A zombie-preparedness study, commissioned by Pittsburgh Mayor Tom Murphy and released Monday, indicates that the city could easily succumb to a devastating zombie attack. Insufficient emergency-management-personnel training and poorly conceived undead-defense measures have left the city at great risk for all-out destruction at the hands of the living dead, according to the Zombie Preparedness Institute.
Pittsburgh, a prime target of the undead.

"When it comes to defending ourselves against an army of reanimated human corpses, the officials in charge have fallen asleep at the wheel," Murphy said. "Who's in charge of sweep-and-burn missions to clear out infected areas? Who's going to guard the cemeteries at night? If zombies were to arrive in the city tomorrow, we'd all be roaming the earth in search of human brains by Friday."

Government-conducted zombie-attack scenarios described on the State Department's website indicate that a successful, citywide zombie takeover would take 10 days, but according to ZPI statistician Dr. Milton Cornelius, the government's models fail to incorporate such factors as the zombies' rudimentary reasoning skills and basic tool use.

"Today's zombies quickly learn to open doors, break windows, and stage ambushes," Cornelius said. "In one 1985 incident in Louisville, a band of zombies was able to lure four paramedics and countless law-enforcement officials to their deaths by commandeering an ambulance radio and calling for backup."

ZPI researchers noted that tens of thousands of Pittsburgh citizens live in close proximity to a cemetery. This fact, coupled with abnormally high space-radiation levels in eastern Pennsylvania and ongoing traffic issues in the East Hills and Larimer areas, led Cornelius to declare the likelihood of a successful evacuation as "slight to impossible."

"The designated evacuation routes would be hopelessly clogged, leaving many no choice but to escape by foot," Cornelius said. "Add a single lurching zombie into that easily panicked crowd and you've got a nightmare scenario."

Cornelius' model shows that after the ensuing stampede, "the zombie could pick and choose his victims," and predicts the creation of hundreds of new undead "in a single half-hour feeding frenzy."

Pittsburgh's structural defenses are particularly inadequate. The city's emergency safe houses, established by a city ordinance in the early '70s, lack even the most basic fortifications for zombie invasion.


Pittsburgh residents participate in a zombie-preparedness training exercise in 1998.

"Under the ordinance, wooden tool sheds and rusty station wagons are classified as adequate shelter," Cornelius said. "But once dozens of zombies hungering for living flesh begin pounding on the walls and driving their half-decomposed fists through the windows, sheds and cars quickly give way."

Federal Undead Management Agency spokesperson Dr. Sheena Aurora downplayed the ZPI report, arguing that zombies move slowly and can be easily overpowered. Aurora advised citizens to look over their shoulders frequently, adding that a large shopping mall can serve as a "long-term, even fun" refuge from zombies.

Such assertions alarm zombiologist Olivier Baptiste, who calls FUMA's information "hopelessly outdated."

"Dr. Aurora's claims are based on decades-old zombie models," Baptiste said. "Widely released evidence from recent years clearly shows that zombies can run just as fast, if not faster, than a living human."

Added Baptiste: "That FUMA trains its field agents to shoot zombies in the torso, rather than the head, demonstrates just how out of touch the government is."

Evans City, PA Police Chief Gino Fulci said zombie preparedness comes down to training on the local level.

"Children need to be taught from preschool that they might have to put a bullet between the eyes of their own undead mother," Fulci said. "'Destroy The Brain' banners should be hung above the entrances of schools, churches, and town halls everywhere."

Cornelius recommends that Pittsburgh residents prepare a "go-bag" containing a Glock 17 pistol and 50 rounds of ammunition. If leaving the house is not an option, Cornelius advises residents to barricade all first-story doors and windows, and have at least one method of suicide prepared, should zombies successfully breach the home.

[Drache]

Zombie Infection Simulator!

http://kevan.org/proce55ing/zombies/




Zombie Survival Guide

http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/zombiesurvivalguide/

[bull]

That second link brings up some questions I have about zombies. How do they distinguish between the living and the dead? When they see another human in the distance how can they tell if it's a source of food or just another zombie because they seem to be able to tell right away?

And why don't zombies carry guns? If they are capable of doing all the same things they could do when they were alive why don't they just shoot and disable their victims rather than rely on their numbers to overwhelm them?

And do the victims have to be eaten alive or are they edible if only recently dead?

[Drache]

As allot of movies explain, zombies only carry the most basic and primal of brain functions although in the movie "Land of The Dead" I think it is where they have a zombie who learns and teaches others how to fire guns!

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

that 1 zombie in resident evil carrys an axe well more drags then carrys but yes they only have basic functioning the gun thing was kinda weird in land of the dead where the lead zombie fires the gun and the other zombie actually starts shooting and actually kills sum1 but after that theres no more developing of their brainskills

[AKcharger]

So punk...you REALLY own that prop? Mucho Cool, that must have been a few bucks

Zombie simulator was cool

That second link brings up some questions I have about zombies. How do they distinguish between the living and the dead? When they see another human in the distance how can they tell if it's a source of food or just another zombie because they seem to be able to tell right away?

And why don't zombies carry guns? If they are capable of doing all the same things they could do when they were alive why don't they just shoot and disable their victims rather than rely on their numbers to overwhelm them?

And do the victims have to be eaten alive or are they edible if only recently dead?

Wow, good questions, I guess they excreate some kind of zombie pheromones to deter zombie-on-zombie consumption

[68chrgrwife]

So punk...you REALLY own that prop? Mucho Cool, that must have been a few bucks

Zombie simulator was cool

That second link brings up some questions I have about zombies. How do they distinguish between the living and the dead? When they see another human in the distance how can they tell if it's a source of food or just another zombie because they seem to be able to tell right away?

And why don't zombies carry guns? If they are capable of doing all the same things they could do when they were alive why don't they just shoot and disable their victims rather than rely on their numbers to overwhelm them?

And do the victims have to be eaten alive or are they edible if only recently dead?

Wow, good questions, I guess they excreate some kind of zombie pheromones to deter zombie-on-zombie consumption

well, they are dead they probably stink so bad that other zombies can smell their "friends" a mile away.....if you don't smell then you are alive and need to be eaten.  Kinda like predator where he can't see you unless you are alive (heat signature).  so I would assume if you make yourself smell bad then they wouldn't attack you (like arnold covering himself in mud to hide the heat signature).

[bull]

So punk...you REALLY own that prop? Mucho Cool, that must have been a few bucks

Zombie simulator was cool

That second link brings up some questions I have about zombies. How do they distinguish between the living and the dead? When they see another human in the distance how can they tell if it's a source of food or just another zombie because they seem to be able to tell right away?

And why don't zombies carry guns? If they are capable of doing all the same things they could do when they were alive why don't they just shoot and disable their victims rather than rely on their numbers to overwhelm them?

And do the victims have to be eaten alive or are they edible if only recently dead?

Wow, good questions, I guess they excreate some kind of zombie pheromones to deter zombie-on-zombie consumption

well, they are dead they probably stink so bad that other zombies can smell their "friends" a mile away.....if you don't smell then you are alive and need to be eaten.  Kinda like predator where he can't see you unless you are alive (heat signature).  so I would assume if you make yourself smell bad then they wouldn't attack you (like arnold covering himself in mud to hide the heat signature).

I guess. But how to you distinguish the smell of a live human when the air is filled with zombie stench? It would be like trying to find a pig that doesn't stink among a whole herd of them. Maybe it's visual. Maybe they look for the ones that are pink instead of green or gray and aren't stumbling around aimlessly. Maybe if there's a zombie outbreak I'll paint myself gray and stumble around like an idiot. When in Zombieville do as the zombies do.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

yeah i do own it, and no it wasnt cheap but very cool and functional

[bordin34]

The Zombie spoof movie "Shawn of the Dead" answers this question. In the movie they have to walk across a street crowded with zombies. To do this they walk with a limp like zombies and make zombie noises. They go unnoticed.

[bull]

The Zombie spoof movie "Shawn of the Dead" answers this question. In the movie they have to walk across a street crowded with zombies. To do this they walk with a limp like zombies and make zombie noises. They go unnoticed.

I just saw it tonight. I give it The ending was great how they showed what they did with some of the "surviving" zombies. Some were employed doing menial tasks such as gathering shopping carts, others became a source of entertainment on zombie game shows, etc. Very funny. And that Kate Ashfield is a real cutie.

[AKcharger]

I must watch this.


Hey could fish be zombies? and if they were how could you tell all they do is swim around and eat? For that matter what about any zombie animals...especialy cows, I mean if there is any animal just waiting to be zombieized it's a cow!

[old man]

Okay after all this I have ordered the books " World War Z and Zombie Survial Guide". I have also checked all my ammo and have figured out I don't have enough. See what you all have done to me. Now I'm planning for the zombie revolution. As long as they don't try to drive my cars I think I can deal with it.

[Ponch ®]

well, they are dead they probably stink so bad that other zombies can smell their "friends" a mile away.....if you don't smell then you are alive and need to be eaten.  Kinda like predator where he can't see you unless you are alive (heat signature).  so I would assume if you make yourself smell bad then they wouldn't attack you (like arnold covering himself in mud to hide the heat signature).

you might have inadvertently stumbled onto the answer. Dead Zombie = cold. Tasty living human = warm.

[68chrgrwife]

yeah I got some brains in my head...just don't like using them..don't like putting others to shame with my "smarts"  LOL

[bull]

well, they are dead they probably stink so bad that other zombies can smell their "friends" a mile away.....if you don't smell then you are alive and need to be eaten.  Kinda like predator where he can't see you unless you are alive (heat signature).  so I would assume if you make yourself smell bad then they wouldn't attack you (like arnold covering himself in mud to hide the heat signature).

you might have inadvertently stumbled onto the answer. Dead Zombie = cold. Tasty living human = warm.

So zombies are actually really picky eaters? How would that equate to us? Coffee maybe? Most people will absolutely refuse to drink cold coffee (which is like one zombie eating another) but hot coffee is adored and highly sought after? Is it against zombie etiquette to eat another zombie? Do they consider that cannibalism whereas eating the living is not? So many questions.

[Ponch ®]

  Is it against zombie etiquette to eat another zombie? 

yes, unless they're lesbian zombies.

[bull]

  Is it against zombie etiquette to eat another zombie? 

yes, unless they're lesbian zombies.

But zombies never seem to have time for recreational activities. They are so single-minded in their quest for the next meal.

Which brings up another issue. Don't they realize they should conserve their food source? I mean if they gobble up all the living without giving them time to reproduce the'll run out of food. Then what? They should organize their thinking and eat all those who are either unwilling or incapable of reproducing first while giving the rest time to have more kids. The first zombie smart enough to start a people ranch would rule the zombie world.