WTF !!!!Words can't describe,school shooting in Ct

[stripedelete]

The fact that the guns were registered to the mother throws a flag.   I wonder if it will come out that she bought them because her son could not (because of mental illness).  

Which goes to the last point:  parents need to start doing their job.

[Ram07]

Morgan Freeman's statement about these random shootings....

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you kn

ow the name of a single victim of Columbine? Distur
bed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."

[skip68]

The real issue is not gun control, it's these nutbags that reach for the guns.       It's impossible to get rid of guns.. bottom line is these nut bags will just make bombs or something else.   Besides, even if guns were banished from the U.S., how long would it be before there are 10,000 back in the country from Mexico or other areas?   a month? two months?  maybe only weeks because it will create a huge black market...  Only the bad guys will have them and that's not ok with me.   As long as the police feel the need to carry a gun, the public should have the right to own a gun.   We can't get rid of drugs, what the hell makes people think we can get rid of guns?  Like I said, only the bad guys will have the guns making us all "soft targets" in our homes......  

                     Sorry but this really is about a crazy sick son of a bitch that was hell bent on killing and would've done so regardless of his tools for the job. We will always have wars, murders and crazy SOB's that will hurt innocent people.  Be it with a gun, knife, stick, rock, axe, bomb ect. ect. ect.   Always have and always will since man has been on earth.   Stop blaming the weapons and start blaming the the SOB's with a screw loose.   Rant over.  

[skip68]

I agree with Mr. Freeman 100%.   The media keeps talking gun control and yet they should be bound by law to not mention the shooters name...  I don't know this person nor does anyone until now.  This makes these shooters a somebody.  In a way these reporters are loading the next gun by making the next guy see his name all around the world.   Where is their responsibility to the public.....   They make comments that these schools make the perfect soft target.    To me, these reporters are fueling the fire in these sick minds out there.   They admit that copycat guys are out there so this makes the reporters like a form of a gun.       I guess for us to blame the reporters is the same as the reporters or others blaming the guns.......  
               
 OK, now I'm done.............

[Tilar]

It all comes down to taking God and discipline out of everything from the schools to the homes to the court room.

Yes, because nobody ever killed anyone because of God ever.

There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

Whatever man. This isn't about an invisible guy in the sky. This is about a POS who decided it would be coool to take out a bunch of little kids. Then he took his own life. Yes I am outraged. Yes I am pissed. I wish there was a such thing as hell. Then he would burn like the little bitch he is.

I used to tell my kids that the only reason they couldn't see the trees outside was because that damn window was in the way.  I think there are a lot of people like that.

[hemi68charger]

I agree with Mr. Freeman 100%.   The media keeps talking gun control and yet they should be bound by law to not mention the shooters name...  I don't know this person nor does anyone until now.  This makes these shooters a somebody.  In a way these reporters are loading the next gun by making the next guy see his name all around the world.   Where is their responsibility to the public.....   They make comments that these schools make the perfect soft target.    To me, these reporters are fueling the fire in these sick minds out there.   They admit that copycat guys are out there so this makes the reporters like a form of a gun.       I guess for us to blame the reporters is the same as the reporters or others blaming the guns.......  
               
 OK, now I'm done.............

To add to this, the culture of "it looks so real" violent video games. This new teenage culture don't know how to handle it. There was a time when such video games were meant for military training I bet. Now, kids can flick on a switch, start killing "bad guys" (granted, the good guys don't look so good), live in some form of Hollywood induced utopia of a non-consequence nature. Some of those "kids" take it to the extreme. These children are a product of our surroundings and "pop-culture". Yes, I enjoy movies like Iron Man, the Avengers, etc. I would like to know the extent of this disturbed individuals participation on violent video games...... To them, picking up a gun on a video game and that of a real one and mimicking what they portray is a VERY thin line. They kill in the video game with no consequences, they think the same in real life.......

[elanmars]

It all comes down to taking God and discipline out of everything from the schools to the homes to the court room.

this isn't about your religion/obviously christian god, come on now, that's just plain silly and down right narcissistic on your part. If you SERIOUSLY believe that, then you must obviously believe it was god's plan? so what're you gonna do, pray about it?

I really don't get some religious people sometimes and I can tolerate a lot but seeing this kind of nonsense repeatedly (I live in the south after all) the past few days, on my facebook feed and even religious people in the media saying a lot of the same has me completely irked...there's families completely devastated and I have no idea how they have the strength to go on when something this horrible happens and ya'll gotta make it about you, the invisible man and long haired socialist free healthcare givin' hippie nailed to a cross you worship. It's so tacky and lame.

Like someone said earlier, read some history, it's not like a lot of useless killing wasn't done "in his name"....

[elanmars]

double post, my bad.

[Tilar]

It all comes down to taking God and discipline out of everything from the schools to the homes to the court room.

this isn't about your religion/obviously christian god, come on now, that's just plain silly and down right narcissistic on your part. If you SERIOUSLY believe that, then you must obviously believe it was god's plan? so what're you gonna do, pray about it?

Don't be a fool. That's not what I said at all.  Taking the death penalty out of the courts have had a direct impact on how daring people are in their criminal actions. Taking prayer and God out of the schools have had a direct impact on children and by default the people that are adults now and raising children. Most of these adults have done completely away with discipline other than taking away things like the kids phones or grounding them so they have to stay in their bedroom with nothing to do but watch their TV or play on their computer. Oh how rough that must be.  Whether you like it or not, that is fact.

[Tilar]

The fact that the guns were registered to the mother throws a flag.   I wonder if it will come out that she bought them because her son could not (because of mental illness).  

Which goes to the last point:  parents need to start doing their job.

You got that right!

[chargerboy69]

Morgan Freeman's statement about these random shootings....

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you kn

ow the name of a single victim of Columbine? Distur
bed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."

According to Snopes this statement was not made by Morgan Freeman.

[Indygenerallee]

It sounds to me from the reports the killer had a serious complex (which killer does not?) It's horrific in every aspect but when you get down to the nitty gritty nothing will EVER stop whack jobs from killing innocent people no matter what you do! Banning gunsl, violent video games, movies, TV will not work! Also I agree the media needs to keep their damn mouth shut, heck they had the killers brother pictured everywhere saying he was the killer. I smell a lawsuit coming.

[bull]

It all comes down to taking God and discipline out of everything from the schools to the homes to the court room.

this isn't about your religion/obviously christian god, come on now, that's just plain silly and down right narcissistic on your part. If you SERIOUSLY believe that, then you must obviously believe it was god's plan? so what're you gonna do, pray about it?

Don't be a fool. That's not what I said at all.  Taking the death penalty out of the courts have had a direct impact on how daring people are in their criminal actions. Taking prayer and God out of the schools have had a direct impact on children and by default the people that are adults now and raising children. Most of these adults have done completely away with discipline other than taking away things like the kids phones or grounding them so they have to stay in their bedroom with nothing to do but watch their TV or play on their computer. Oh how rough that must be.  Whether you like it or not, that is fact.

I believe what is meant here is that when people stopped believing in something more important and authoritative than their own wants and needs, things started falling apart in the US during the past 50 years. You can believe in God or not but when you look at what was taught, and believed, there's not much you can say to refute it: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

[Chargen69]

Morgan freeman is a bleeding heart liberal, there is no way he made that statement

[Charger-Bodie]

It all comes down to taking God and discipline out of everything from the schools to the homes to the court room.

this isn't about your religion/obviously christian god, come on now, that's just plain silly and down right narcissistic on your part. If you SERIOUSLY believe that, then you must obviously believe it was god's plan? so what're you gonna do, pray about it?

Don't be a fool. That's not what I said at all.  Taking the death penalty out of the courts have had a direct impact on how daring people are in their criminal actions. Taking prayer and God out of the schools have had a direct impact on children and by default the people that are adults now and raising children. Most of these adults have done completely away with discipline other than taking away things like the kids phones or grounding them so they have to stay in their bedroom with nothing to do but watch their TV or play on their computer. Oh how rough that must be.  Whether you like it or not, that is fact.

I believe what is meant here is that when people stopped believing in something more important and authoritative than their own wants and needs, things started falling apart in the US during the past 50 years. You can believe in God or not but when you look at what was taught, and believed, there's not much you can say to refute it: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

Very well said Curtis. My thoughts exactly

[71green go]

Dont know if these numbers are correct...but if so, whats up?

[JB400]

How many of those are gang related?  How do those numbers compare to traffic fatalities?

[71green go]

I just want to say thank you to this Forum for allowing the topic top be discussed, it is being done calmly without attacking anyone Else's opinion.....I have no answers, I have my thoughts and opinions about gun control.......
I was just visiting the  third gen charger forum which I have been a member for many years, and see for Just mentioning the words gun control I have been stripped of my forum privileges without a word being said to me.......That is censorship, but it is the privelage of the forum owner to operate it the way he wants to control people........I am glad this community exists
God bless the families throughout the world where children are the victims of violence....

[skip68]

Yeah, I saw some of those numbers on some website and it said lots of the shootings were police and justifiable citizens for self defense.   The number is still huge and more needs to be done but getting rid of guns will never happen.  It's impossible and I for one won't give up mine.   Crazy people do stupid things.  Whether it's a idiot with a gun or a drunk behind the wheel.  I believe more innocent people die per year from drunk drivers than guns.   Do we blame the car?    We need to try and make sure less irresponsible people get behind the wheel and get a gun.  

[lloyd3]

This whole situation is gutwrenching. I can't imagine what these families are going through. What is even worse is that certain politicians (and their friends in the media) will use this unspeakably horrific event to simply further their own ends. They will bludgeon us with this tragedy and attempt to use it to overturn or circumvent the 2nd Amendment.

[bull]

Dont know if these numbers are correct...but if so, whats up?

They should compare those numbers to Afganistan, Syria and Mexico. I know there were more than 15,000 gun-related deaths in Mexico in 2010. By the way, Israeli citizens are armed to the teeth due to their unfriendly neighbors so that should tell you something about self defense. Not sure how many are killed by bombs and rockets though.

There were 32,000+ traffic fatalities in the US in 2011, according to a site I was looking at a while ago.

The number is still huge and more needs to be done but getting rid of guns will never happen.  It's impossible and I for one won't give up mine.     

The only guns they'll be able to get are the ones owned by those who obey the law.

[Tilar]

If they make a law saying I have to give mine up, that will be one I will not obey under any circumstances.

[charger_fan_4ever]

Such a tragedy.

As said previously a lot of kids now days are brought being taught no values. I believe this all started going downhill when religion was taken out little by little until now they are changing names of holidays to not offend anyone.
Parents need to take away the xbox with call of duty and replace it with family bible studies. Play some board games with your kids take them outside to play. Don't let them get corrupted in this society as it is far to easy.

Not all but lots of parents "cast away" their kids. Let them dwell in their rooms isolated with these violent games. Its a breeding ground for monsters especially with all the media coverage these freaks obtain in such cowardliness acts.


Its sad it has come to this but i think schools should have an armed guard during school hours.

[Back N Black]

Such a tragedy.

As said previously a lot of kids now days are brought being taught no values. I believe this all started going downhill when religion was taken out little by little until now they are changing names of holidays to not offend anyone.
Parents need to take away the xbox with call of duty and replace it with family bible studies. Play some board games with your kids take them outside to play. Don't let them get corrupted in this society as it is far to easy.

Not all but lots of parents "cast away" their kids. Let them dwell in their rooms isolated with these violent games. Its a breeding ground for monsters especially with all the media coverage these freaks obtain in such cowardliness acts.


Its sad it has come to this but i think schools should have an armed guard during school hours.

Really armed guards in school? we don't need more guns. 

[resq302]

Why not?  An armed security guard or Special Class 2 police officer who is allowed to carry certainly would be a benefit.  Lets face it, it would reduce the amount of casualties by having security there who is armed and knows how to use it and also would be able to directly radio for back up should something go down.  Also, wouldn't you think someone who is planning something like this would give it a second thought knowing that someone might be there who would shoot back?