Hagerty Insurance Valuation Website

[OldGuy]

Some of you might find this page helpful if you are trying to value your car.  This is from Hagerty Insurance, so they must put some legitimacy to the numbers.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

[Ghoste]

I don't know, they are able to put a value of 34k on a 69 Charger 500 with a 383?     But I do find their trend graphs very telling.

[triple_green]

this looks pretty accurate to me. I have been tarcking Charger pricies for 15 years and my graphs look very similar.

I have found, most people over grade the condtion of their cars when they look at this evaluation. (I'm sure I did).

[Cooter]

Was thinking the same thing.

[HeavyFuel]

Only 2 choices for '68?         Lame.

I suppose I could just put my specs into the '69 area, then add another $5K, 'cause '68s are better...... ........

[ACUDANUT]

Yea, lame.  It does not even have a 72 Charger Rallye option.

[67RedCharger]

That chart is really lame.  It didn't reflect any of the valuation prices made by my car appraiser, Don Nelson of Pleasant Garden, North Carolina who is associated with Certified Appraisers Guild of America at 2208 Brandon Station Rd zip code 27313, phone 336-674-3150.  He appraised my 1967 Charger in 2001 at $75,000.00, my 1959 Impala Convertable straight gear 348, tri-power car at $150,000.00,  both of my 1950 Studebakers at $50,000.00, my 1969 Chevrolet C10 pickup at $39,000.00 and they don't even have a listing for my 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Avenue, and Don Nelson appraised that car at $35,000.00   Don Nelson runs BIG BOYS TOYS business.

  ~ Don ~

[1974dodgecharger]

If you guys want I can appraise your guys cars also...depending how much you slip me I can add lots of value to it.


Whats it appriased at and what the market demands are two different things, but its fun to say, 'I have a XXX worth on my car' or just go with the old story of, 'well craig barret sold one identical to mine for 150k so mine is worth the same' 

[freddyd02]

I dont even see a section for a 69 with a 440.. 

[HeavyFuel]

I dont even see a section for a 69 with a 440.. 

It doesn't say it in the description....but that would be the R/T.

[ACUDANUT]

If you guys want I can appraise your guys cars also...depending how much you slip me I can add lots of value to it.


Whats it appriased at and what the market demands are two different things, but its fun to say, 'I have a XXX worth on my car' or just go with the old story of, 'well craig barret sold one identical to mine for 150k so mine is worth the same' 

Yea, me too. I will appraise any car worth 1K for 20K if you hire me. A 20k car would be 100K.

[Dino]

That chart is really lame.  It didn't reflect any of the valuation prices made by my car appraiser, Don Nelson of Pleasant Garden, North Carolina who is associated with Certified Appraisers Guild of America at 2208 Brandon Station Rd zip code 27313, phone 336-674-3150.  He appraised my 1967 Charger in 2001 at $75,000.00, my 1959 Impala Convertable straight gear 348, tri-power car at $150,000.00,  both of my 1950 Studebakers at $50,000.00, my 1969 Chevrolet C10 pickup at $39,000.00 and they don't even have a listing for my 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Avenue, and Don Nelson appraised that car at $35,000.00   Don Nelson runs BIG BOYS TOYS business.

  ~ Don ~

Those must be some rare cars. 

[Tilar]

That chart is really lame.  It didn't reflect any of the valuation prices made by my car appraiser, Don Nelson of Pleasant Garden, North Carolina who is associated with Certified Appraisers Guild of America at 2208 Brandon Station Rd zip code 27313, phone 336-674-3150.  He appraised my 1967 Charger in 2001 at $75,000.00, my 1959 Impala Convertable straight gear 348, tri-power car at $150,000.00,  both of my 1950 Studebakers at $50,000.00, my 1969 Chevrolet C10 pickup at $39,000.00 and they don't even have a listing for my 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Avenue, and Don Nelson appraised that car at $35,000.00   Don Nelson runs BIG BOYS TOYS business.

  ~ Don ~

Those must be some rare cars. 

I suspect there might be a little bit of mixed in with that.   

[67RedCharger]

Yes Dino, they made 15,500 67 Chargers and there are very few left that haven't been wrecked or left to rust away.  The 1959 Impala Convertable was a dime a dozen back in the early years of their life and they came with rubber floor mats in the car, and vinyl upholstery so that you could let it rain in the car, Duuuu!  Very few made it past the tenth year in existance.  The 1950 Studabaker was a very cheap car back in it's heyday, and as time progressed, didn't hold value very well and wound up being crushed by the know better folks, only to improve it's image in later years.

  ~ Don ~

[67RedCharger]

That chart is really lame.  It didn't reflect any of the valuation prices made by my car appraiser, Don Nelson of Pleasant Garden, North Carolina who is associated with Certified Appraisers Guild of America at 2208 Brandon Station Rd zip code 27313, phone 336-674-3150.  He appraised my 1967 Charger in 2001 at $75,000.00, my 1959 Impala Convertable straight gear 348, tri-power car at $150,000.00,  both of my 1950 Studebakers at $50,000.00, my 1969 Chevrolet C10 pickup at $39,000.00 and they don't even have a listing for my 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Avenue, and Don Nelson appraised that car at $35,000.00   Don Nelson runs BIG BOYS TOYS business.

  ~ Don ~

Those must be some rare cars. 

I suspect there might be a little bit of mixed in with that.   

Tilar, I will leave this remark for you to use for reference only.  Everyone else can decide from looking at these cars whether or not I am a BSter, or not.  Ghoste knows me very well, but I have been away for some time now.

http://www.moparts.org/moparts/picture/oldweb/dodson.html

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?fid/32/tid/204272/pid/1574535/post/last/#LAST

http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/rrow/2009/dodson070209/

http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/rrow/2009/dodson063009/

http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/rrow/2009/dodson062609/

[hatersaurusrex]

Good to know my 383  car is worth $31 more bucks than a 318 car for '68.  Now I can sleep at night knowing if I ever had to sell my 383 car I could literally get enough food to live for two more days on with the extra money I'd get.

[Tilar]

That chart is really lame.  It didn't reflect any of the valuation prices made by my car appraiser, Don Nelson of Pleasant Garden, North Carolina who is associated with Certified Appraisers Guild of America at 2208 Brandon Station Rd zip code 27313, phone 336-674-3150.  He appraised my 1967 Charger in 2001 at $75,000.00, my 1959 Impala Convertable straight gear 348, tri-power car at $150,000.00,  both of my 1950 Studebakers at $50,000.00, my 1969 Chevrolet C10 pickup at $39,000.00 and they don't even have a listing for my 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Avenue, and Don Nelson appraised that car at $35,000.00   Don Nelson runs BIG BOYS TOYS business.

  ~ Don ~

Those must be some rare cars. 

I suspect there might be a little bit of mixed in with that.   

Tilar, I will leave this remark for you to use for reference only.  Everyone else can decide from looking at these cars whether or not I am a BSter, or not.  Ghoste knows me very well, but I have been away for some time now.

Wasn't trying to hurt your feelings, but to see someone say anything from 1983 being worth much more than 20% of what you listed it at raises an eyebrow. And in my mind, the 67 Charger, while it is nice would have to have some extremely rare options to be worth 75k and not be a hemi. The pickup I can see and the Studebakers could be because I don't keep up with those. Again, not trying to hurt your feelings, just saying it as I see it.

[HeavyFuel]

they don't even have a listing for my 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Avenue, and Don Nelson appraised that car at $35,000.00   Don Nelson runs BIG BOYS TOYS business.

  ~ Don ~

You MIGHT get $35k for that car if it was the only one left on the planet....

[RangerDan440]

Im a certified appraiser with credentials from the AACA.  Im a military officer in my "real job" and not a dealer, body shop, insurance adjuster or associated with the car business in any way so I dont have financial interest in appraisals other than my fees, I just do it as a way to check out neat cars and make a little extra cash in my off time without having to get my hands dirty.

The Hagerty evaluation tool is just that, a tool and shouldnt be used as a be-all-end-all for a dollar amount value.  But that being said, Ive worked with the folks from Hagerty and they do keep on top of real-world collector car values and it is a good guide.  Collector cars is all Hagerty does so they are more in tune with our world than just anybody else out there.  

But if you really want a real dollar amount value on your car, either:
1)  list your car for sale and whatever someone offers you in cash is what its worth, or
2)  get an appraisal from a CERTIFIED (I cant stress that word enough) appraiser that will tell you the cold hard truth and not a super-inflated number you want to hear just to make you happy.  'CERTIFIED' means that they have actually completed a course and have been vetted by a professional organization other than themselves; for example an insurance company or governent body, otherwise any idiot can go out and call themselves an appraiser.  www.autoappraisal.com is a good place to start; they are a bit on the pricey side but you get what you pay for.

[1974dodgecharger]

Good to know my 383  car is worth $31 more bucks than a 318 car for '68.  Now I can sleep at night knowing if I ever had to sell my 383 car I could literally get enough food to live for two more days on with the extra money I'd get.

lmao 

[1974dodgecharger]

do they value cars based on the market demand or do they do it because its based on 'popularity'.  

Question is 'how do they get the actual numbers'

The hagerty tool is great like you said, but you forget that they dont have sub options indicationg rust here, rust there, engine not running, customized stuff there, etc..

alot of sellers quote hagerty, but they quote that as a non running car from what I have seen (not all of course) and they will tell you, 'well once you get this fixed and running' so they go off those prices from the start.

For example I had one guy tell me about hagerty site his car was, 'No engine, tranny intact, two rims and tires, little rust, interior gone, had front seats, and he quoted me the hagerty condition 4 on me on a 68 charger he said I want roughly 18k and thats his lowest he will go based on hagerty website he told me.

Im a certified appraiser with credentials from the AACA.  Im a military officer in my "real job" and not a dealer, body shop, insurance adjuster or associated with the car business in any way so I dont have financial interest in appraisals other than my fees, I just do it as a way to check out neat cars and make a little extra cash in my off time without having to get my hands dirty.

The Hagerty evaluation tool is just that, a tool and shouldnt be used as a be-all-end-all for a dollar amount value.  But that being said, Ive worked with the folks from Hagerty and they do keep on top of real-world collector car values and it is a good guide.  Collector cars is all Hagerty does so they are more in tune with our world than just anybody else out there.  

But if you really want a real dollar amount value on your car, either:
1)  list your car for sale and whatever someone offers you in cash is what its worth, or
2)  get an appraisal from a CERTIFIED (I cant stress that word enough) appraiser that will tell you the cold hard truth and not a super-inflated number you want to hear just to make you happy.  'CERTIFIED' means that they have actually completed a course and have been vetted by a professional organization other than themselves; for example an insurance company or governent body, otherwise any idiot can go out and call themselves an appraiser.  www.autoappraisal.com is a good place to start; they are a bit on the pricey side but you get what you pay for.

[67RedCharger]

Im a certified appraiser with credentials from the AACA.  Im a military officer in my "real job" and not a dealer, body shop, insurance adjuster or associated with the car business in any way so I dont have financial interest in appraisals other than my fees, I just do it as a way to check out neat cars and make a little extra cash in my off time without having to get my hands dirty.

The Hagerty evaluation tool is just that, a tool and shouldnt be used as a be-all-end-all for a dollar amount value.  But that being said, Ive worked with the folks from Hagerty and they do keep on top of real-world collector car values and it is a good guide.  Collector cars is all Hagerty does so they are more in tune with our world than just anybody else out there. 

But if you really want a real dollar amount value on your car, either:
1)  list your car for sale and whatever someone offers you in cash is what its worth, or
2)  get an appraisal from a CERTIFIED (I cant stress that word enough) appraiser that will tell you the cold hard truth and not a super-inflated number you want to hear just to make you happy.  'CERTIFIED' means that they have actually completed a course and have been vetted by a professional organization other than themselves; for example an insurance company or governent body, otherwise any idiot can go out and call themselves an appraiser.  www.autoappraisal.com is a good place to start; they are a bit on the pricey side but you get what you pay for.

Thanks for your reply RangerDan,  I was not going to reply to the others words of encouragement regarding the valuation of my cars as it made no difference toward the value of my cars as they were appraised by Don Nelson, from Certified Appraisers Guild of America, and Hagarty respects his appraised values of my cars.  As for the 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Avenue value, the $50,000.00 value still stands if anyone wants to destroy any car with that sort of value then have at it, and they can test if Hagarty will just sit there and do nothing about it.  It is better to have a car appraised by a certified appraiser than to run into a problem with a "I thought attitude"  when it comes to collecting from an accident claim.  Get the thought verified by an appraiser from a member of Certified Appraisers Guild of America, and then you can have enjoyment of driving your collector car with ease of mind!

  ~ Don ~    67RedCharger

[Silver R/T]

Its as good as KBB, which is useless. It reflects "approximate" values which are nowhere close to real values of the cars.