Graveyard Carz

[r4daytona]

nvrbdn, thanks for appreciating the show for what it is, simply a guy trying to get a show going about mopars. C-stripes, glad you made it to the shop, it's pretty amazing the cars and facilities he has.  Mark is a decent guy despite what some may think.  I actually thought it was funny that Royal put him in his place with the paintballs! It is true though, he needs to try and appeal to a bit wider range of people that just "car guys", Thats why he has some of the non-car stuff.  I will glady take 6 minutes of a wedding or 10 mintues of paintball to see a show about mopars.  If people want to complain about little things like that, then maybe the show will get replaced by a show called "All Chevy all the time".  Yes I am a bit biased because thats my daytona and perhaps I may have the wrong thoughts about this, but when guys knock Mark and the way he does stuff, I take that as knocking the shop I chose and the way my car is going to be done. I've seen the work and the car is going to be awesome and I'm hoping to meet people at some shows and I'd be glad to let you take it for a drive.  I understand and can appreciate what some may think about the sponsor stuff but when someone donates or deeply discounts something like the Shopcrane or Metal building he has to give then a plug. I thought it was kind of interesting watching the crane be assembeled. I know when I do my final interview I will be thanking Coker, Napa, Classic tube, Retro Radio, Passion4Mopars(great stuff by the way), AMD, Metro Moulded parts and Legendary. All of these people helped make this happen. In fact, as of now, Legendary is going to fly out and do an install of a complete interior.  Now how can we not give them a thank you plug for that.  ACUDANUT, your right Mark did start this and it would be nice for an occasional post and I will glady tell him that.  Not that it is an excuse, but I know that they are starting to film season 3 and he is super busy.  I will though email him and call him to let him know.  He is very interested in feedback to make the show even better as is evident by this season being better than last.  Cudanut, what kind of cuda do you have? Prior to the daytona I had an AAR. had to sell it because I couldn't afford both.  I know it wasn't fastest, but I just liked the paint scheme, side exhaust, just a cool looking car. I'll have another one someday.

[mopar4don]

I agree!    

[C_stripes]

R4daytona

Mark and crew do excellent work and you should be proud to have them working on your Daytona, it's looking pretty good by the way. I actually shared a whole bunch of photos I took of an unrestored R4 Daytona with him for reference.


All the critics

I find it funny that all of the critics here say what they do, yet they have never tried starting their own show. Look at Top Gear for instance. It is listed as the most watched factual show in the world. Also the most watched automotive show in the world. Have any of you ever watched the first several seasons? They have changed a lot. TV shows have to grow and change to get into that nitch that pleases the most people. Give it time and give them support and it will be the best television show on.

[moparstuart]

R4daytona

Mark and crew do excellent work and you should be proud to have them working on your Daytona, it's looking pretty good by the way. I actually shared a whole bunch of photos I took of an unrestored R4 Daytona with him for reference.


All the critics

I find it funny that all of the critics here say what they do, yet they have never tried starting their own show. Look at Top Gear for instance. It is listed as the most watched factual show in the world. Also the most watched automotive show in the world. Have any of you ever watched the first several seasons? They have changed a lot. TV shows have to grow and change to get into that nitch that pleases the most people. Give it time and give them support and it will be the best television show on.

Top Gear UK is my favorite TV show  ( and those guys are a bunch of clowns )       Now the US version that thing is just a very poor wannabee copy train wreck .  


  C stripe it was great chatting with you and Mark on facebook last night i hope you get to continue to help mark research and search for original parts and document these awesome cars .

[duanesterrr]

I am by no means trying to be a critic.  I record the show and fast forward through the "entertainment" parts to get to the car parts.  Its was great seeing the Daytona taken apart and the Challenger being painted.  I like the show because I feel like I learn something every time even if I only watch 15 actual minutes.

[projectanimal]

Love Top Gear UK and agree that their show changed dramatically over the years.   Same thing, they do entertaining things but still provide some great info on cars!   

I had to rewind and watch the end of the last episode of GYC as I was laughing so hard about the slow motion shooting of Mark!   They all took some good hits!  Royal is a tough son of a bitch to rip up his hands and then still finish the day!   Probably smart that Daren skipped as you know they would have all ganged up on him ambush style...

R4daytona - It was great to see them unload and start to roll with your car!  Super jealous you're getting hooked up with A new interior!  Hope they show more of patching or switching panels!   

[Homerr]

I watch the show, but it has turned into an infomercial this season. This episode they even went as far as to promote a paint ball company. I understand promoting companies will help with the show, but I don't need to see 5 minutes of complete dumbness while hanging a banner of the lift company...just promote it and be done with it. 

And the metal awning company, and Rockstar energy drinks.  To me the blatant advertising is more annoying than Daren.

In the first season I didn't mind the visits to the exhaust shop and engine builder, they are directly related to the car.  This other stuff is BS and if it continues I'll quit watching.   

[moparstuart]

Graveyard Carz
For any fans that missed the first three episodes of Season II on Velocity, they are replaying them tonight. Starting at 8:00 mp ET it's "Hey Charger", then at 9:00 it's "Six Pack To Go" and at 10:00 it's "Wet Paint"!

[ACUDANUT]

Mark at GYC started this thread, but never came back with any feedback. 

[Mopar Nut]

Love Top Gear UK and agree that their show changed dramatically over the years.   Same thing, they do entertaining things but still provide some great info on cars!   

There's a '68 Charger in Top Gear UK this Super Bowl Sunday on channel BBCAHD.

[C_stripes]

Stuart,

It was a pleasure, always fun talking to mopar guys.

I hope I can as well, I love tracking down cars, parts, and history. If you ever make it out this way, let me know and we'll have to meet for lunch or something.

[projectanimal]

Love Top Gear UK and agree that their show changed dramatically over the years.   Same thing, they do entertaining things but still provide some great info on cars!   

There's a '68 Charger in Top Gear UK this Super Bowl Sunday on channel BBCAHD.

Hamster (Richard Hammond) owns a 68 or 69 for a while!  There is a YouTube clips of him backing out of the set and driving away!  May e he's on here?!?!   

[Moparman01]

I know i'm a little late to this party (thread), but i have watched every episode of GYC since it came on the air, season 1 and all 3 shows so far on season II, i will continue to watch and support the show in future becuase it is Mopar based, something that's not common in automotive TV! However, there is definatly plenty of constructive criticism to be brought up towards the show, not nescisarily slamming the show, just pointing out some issues. Season 1 was pretty brutal, some of my Mopar buddies laughed and gave up on the show, it was bad let's face it. So far, season 2 has been alot better, not great, but better none the less. Still tho, fake "American Chopper" type of drama is just not nescisary, American Chopper beat the drama crap into the ground, it's old now!! Goofing around and busting each others balls is actually ok and i don't mind it, that's typically how a "shop" environment works, myself and co-workers at the machine shop i work for bust on each other all the time! It's all in good fun, nothing wrong there! But, some things just don't belong in a car building TV show, really what does a hay ride in a pumpkin patch have to do with building Mopars?? Nothing, and 10 minutes of it was way too much! Same thing with the paintball, cool sport, but not for car TV show! Do you think a paintball specific TV show is gonna go off track and show a segmant on a Mopar restoration?? LOL I don't think so! OK, if Mark wants to go off on other segmants non car related with his guy's, that would be fine for a minute or 2, but not 10 or 15!! What i would like to see, and i'm guessing the majority of the members here feel the same way, more about the cars histories, the cars dis-assembly process, why and how certain building tecniques are done and used, the body work, and re-assembly of the cars, things of that nature! When the son-in-law Josh was documenting all the assembly line markings on the rear end and suspension out of the Daytona, that was great, and something other guy's restoring old Mopars could learn something from! Honestly, i think of the old Boyd Coddington show "American Hot-Rod" as a great template for an entertaining car building TV show. It had everthing, yeah some stupid drama but not much, but it focused on the car builds and most of the steps involved in bringing a car back to life. Even when the crew left the shop for some "relaxation", it was always car related, like drag racing or the salt flats, or a big car show, not a pumpkin carving contest lol! Mark has an awesome knowledge of classic Mopars, i want to see more of that on the show! They do great work, no doubt, so let's see more of it, plain and simple!! The show is still pretty much in it's infancy, i hope it continues to get better in the future!

[67440chrg]

I think this seasons shows are better than lasts. I enjoy watching the show and am glad there is a show based on MOPARS. I know they are not popular but wondering if they get a chance to restore 1st gen Chargers. Keep making them and I will keep watching.

[TUFCAT]

I saw very little improvement from season #1.  

Mark and his crew seem like nice people but the producers obviously think this show should be made into a "Drama"!

I hoped it would evolve into a more serious show like "Dream Car Garage" and weave each car's unique history into the program.  

Unfortunately, its still a Mopar version of Boyd Coddingtons "American Hot Rod" and "Three Stooges" with typical mellow drama we've seen over and over again.

[tsmithae]

Was I the only one that winced a little as they lifted that daytona by its roof with a forklift? I can only imagine that shifting and having a fork go through the roof skin... Also, I think I saw only about 10 minutes about the cars and the rest was advertisements.  

[twodko]

I just watched the first two episodes of season #2.

I saw very little improvement from season #1.  

Mark and his crew seem like nice people but the producers obviously think this show should be made into a "Drama"!

I hoped it would evolve into a more serious show like "Dream Car Garage" and weave each car's unique history into the program.  

Unfortunately they're still making a Mopar version of Boyd Coddingtons "American Hot Rod" with all the typical mellow drama we've seen over and over again.


Ya see what I'm sayin'!

[r4daytona]

MoparmanO1, thanks for the suggestions/input. You're right, the show is still developing and improving and Mark is more than happy to listen to input that is rational and constructive like yours, as is seen by the improvements people are talking about this Season.  I think you have to admit though some of it is a little picky ex: there was a comment about the two guys going to get a u -joint .... so what!  I go to the store with my friends sometimes to get stuff AND take the part to make sure I'm given the right one!   Let the show grow and develop before people cut it down, or better yet, perhaps they can shell $$$$$$$$$ and hire all the people and make their own show.  I can't even imagine how much Mark has invested in this and people complain about a few minutes of non car stuff. I timed the non car stuff I saw so far in the last three shows: 2 minutes about cabinets, total of 10 mins on paintball, 3-4 in the pumpkin patch, 7 mins. on the blaster and 6 mins on the crane. Oh, and less then 1 min hanging the banner. Commercials or not, I thought the crane and blaster were pretty cool.   So he's letting people see a little of his life, big deal. I'd glady take that over seeing british guys talk about cars I won't buy and can't relate to or Wayne showing me foreign cars I can never afford. I watch those shows and there's stuff I don't like, but I take it for what it's worth. As far as "drama" goes and this is my opinion only, I think drama is American Chopper lawsuits and throwing chairs through windows, or drunk chicks from the Jersey Shore getting in fist fights or The Real Housewives and their Botox talking about how much their shoes cost and getting in an fight because they didn't get invited to a certain party. As i've said, I know I'm biased but people really need to lighten up! Constructive criticsm is no problem, but some are just a little bit picky, IMHO. 

[moparstuart]

The show has mopars in it so I'm happy!

thank god someone has enough sense around here to get it .
  I hope these other clowns are happy watching the other 20 all chevy automotive related shows on TV    dumb asses  

I'll say it again     

[projectanimal]

Well said R4daytona....
Great comparison with what real drama is with the other "reality" shows..    Mark should cut back on the Botox.  
Drama is the wrong word to use for this show....
The crane and blaster box were cool to see as well as useful tools for the trade!  

[nvrbdn]

  ok, i will have to admit right here that every time i take any part off i take it with me. i have had too many times where i come home with the wrong part because of an employee reading the wrong line on a computer. my son works the counter at NAPA, and i even make him match my parts for me before i leave.

         hey, there was a NAPA commercial. wonder if i will get paid

[GOTWING]

Never
Any
Parts
Available

i ALWAYS have bad luck in this place

[duanesterrr]

The thing that irks me the most is I am looking at a perfectly restored car... and all I hear from Mark is that the people working there are complete morons.  There is obviously a lot of talent in that shop and it is not just the one guy.

I can't wait to see the wing cars finished.

[r4daytona]

You're right, there is alot of talent there. However it is true, Josh is learning, like we did at that age, Royal and Mark are friends from High School and Royal is very smart, Daren knows a little about alot I'd say.. also very talented.  But my best friend is WAY smarter than I am, in fact he built the tranny that is going in the car and I call him alot worse than a moron!  Just his style of humor.  If I can afford it I may actually go there in April to work on it.  That would be pretty cool but may make the finished product "surprise" a bit anti-climactic I think.

[Moparman01]

That's awesome r4daytona that it is your Daytona featured on the show, i can't wait to see them get into that car a little more! Like i said, i don't mean to bash the show, i know it's still in development basically and hopefully us Mopar fans can help shape the show as it goes! I would just like to see more about the cars, ya know more meat and patatoes and less veggies LOL, I love it when Mark rattles off all the option codes off the top of his head, that's cool! I'm a big fan of the history behind the cars, most old Mopars have a great story to tell, with Mark being heavy into that as well it would be great to see more of that too, kinda like they did with the totalled '71 6BBL 'Cuda!!