Is $10k too much for a 1969 Charger 500

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/3405587196.html

For sale I have a 1969 Dodge Charger 500, (True 500). This car is very rusty and needs quaters, trunk floor, frame rails, and tail light panels. It is a rolling chassy. There is no engine or transmission currently in it. I do have a clean title in hand.
Please NO EMAILS, If you are interested please call Tom at 573-898-5039. Thanks for looking.

[DrHemi]

Bet it came out of Lake Lloyd

[bill440rt]

His pictures leave little to be desired. Doesn't make for a good selling point.
But $10K is good for a project '69 500 for sure.

[Patronus]

That is a very rare auto, Id love to have it.

[Ghoste]

I'm afraid to click on the link for that much.

[Cooter]

"For sale I have a 1969 Dodge Charger 500, (True 500). This car is very rusty and needs quaters, trunk floor, frame rails, and tail light panels. It is a rolling chassy. There is no engine or transmission currently in it. I do have a clean title in hand.
Please NO EMAILS, If you are interested please call Tom at 573-898-5039. Thanks for looking. PICTURES COMING SOON

Key words::: cummins ram dually dart swinger mopar big block small block hot rod mud truck mudder monster truck race car drag."

We have a winner. This one will sell fast for sure.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

You lied! At 10 grand, it's a deal, but 10.5 is totally out of the question!!!  

[Back N Black]

Great re-body candidate??

[69 OUR/TEA]

Looks like it was dragged from a swamp !!!

[Dino]

I thought 500's were R/T's, guess not!

[bill440rt]

I thought 500's were R/T's, guess not!

They started life as R/T's, but had the standard "arrow" emblem at the rear with the 500 emblem at the right corner.

[Dino]

I thought 500's were R/T's, guess not!

They started life as R/T's, but had the standard "arrow" emblem at the rear with the 500 emblem at the right corner.

So they still have the R/T drivetrain and suspension and such, just not the emblems?  Any particular reason why it was done that way?

[Ghoste]

From a powertrain and running gear point of view they were the same as the RT so it was easiest to take an RT off the line and send it over to Creative to have the aero package installed.  In the very earliest part of the program the intention was for them all to be Hemi cars as well so that may also have something to do with it.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

I thought 500's were R/T's, guess not!

They started life as R/T's, but had the standard "arrow" emblem at the rear with the 500 emblem at the right corner.

So they still have the R/T drivetrain and suspension and such, just not the emblems?  Any particular reason why it was done that way?

The VIN is the key; 500's (and Daytonas) start off with XX29 vs. XS29 (for the R/T). As to my speculation for the reasoning as to why it was done that way.........

































because they were never intended to be R/T's.  

[charger_fan_4ever]

After restoring a car that needed all the panels in the future I would shell out more for a better body to start with. Mind you 500's are scarce. There is one in the aero section for ~$18k. Body is in better shape a red car.

When your down to changing framerails its getting $$$ and time consuming.

The car in question was posted in the for sale section and in the aero for over a month now. I believe someone said there is no fender tag or buildsheet also no drivetrain. I don't think its going to sell like a hotcake in this day and age. People look at the car and say thats going to cost atleast $50k to get back on the road.

There were a few early C500's that left with XS29 on the Vin #.

[XS29LA47V21]

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,96656.0.html

yeah that lasted a wk and sold, so clearly the price was completely to high.... 

White stripe on green car is not that bad.
I would hope it will not become a parts car, but looked very rusty and some of the parts are "priceless" to the guys building Daytonas and other 500 owners.  I hope it is saved somehow without a full rebody. 

Sincerely,
Peter Pan

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I thought 500's were R/T's, guess not!

They started life as R/T's, but had the standard "arrow" emblem at the rear with the 500 emblem at the right corner.

So they still have the R/T drivetrain and suspension and such, just not the emblems?  Any particular reason why it was done that way?

Yes, because it was not an R/T

[bakerhillpins]

There were a few early C500's that left with XS29 on the Vin #.

Yea, that threw me for a loop the first time I saw a XS29 with an A11 package on a tag.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

You lied! At 10 grand, it's a deal, but 10.5 is totally out of the question!!!  

I would probably negotiate a bit lower than the $500 I've already discounted in my mind, but...  

[skip68]

I'd say around $7,500'ish.   

[Ghoste]

I thought 500's were R/T's, guess not!

They started life as R/T's, but had the standard "arrow" emblem at the rear with the 500 emblem at the right corner.

So they still have the R/T drivetrain and suspension and such, just not the emblems?  Any particular reason why it was done that way?

Yes, because it was not an R/T

Or,   is it an RT with a conversion package

[Dino]

See, they should've called it an R/T 500.  It would be priceless right about now.   

[skip68]

Those R/T 500's bring in serious dollars.   

[bill440rt]

Especially when they have 440 HEMI'S!!

[Dino]

440 hemi is nothing!  Mine has the double sided translucent windows AND the power headliner.  Now that is value right there!   

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I thought 500's were R/T's, guess not!

They started life as R/T's, but had the standard "arrow" emblem at the rear with the 500 emblem at the right corner.

So they still have the R/T drivetrain and suspension and such, just not the emblems?  Any particular reason why it was done that way?

Yes, because it was not an R/T

Or,   is it an RT with a conversion package

It's not an R/T, does not have an R/T VIN or badges, etc. Heck, they probably would not have built the car, if only the Daytona could have been built sooner...

[Ghoste]

Ah, but what about the early ones that DID have an RT vin

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Ah, but what about the early ones that DID have an RT vin

Then I'd say they pulled cars from the line, or from a pool of cars already built, converting them to C500s. Maybe an an engineering validation exercise? Today, they would build an "XP" (as in experimental, not like an XP29.... tag) VIN car for pilot cars. Back then, pilot cars wore regular VINs

[F8-4life]

In the notion of rarity, yea its worth 10k. But only to those chasing a 500. And Im guessing most of those guys are smart enough to start with something better. So in reality no its not worth 10k... for it to be worth that another has to be ready to hand over the pile of $$$.

[Ghoste]

Thats basically right.  They pulled RT`s from the line to have converted at Creative and they were pulled in batches.  The earliest cars still had the regular RT vin up on the dash but as the program got going they got the XX tags out onto the assembly line floor for them.  

[Dino]

Hey!!  Maybe there really is a c500 with R/T badges then!   

[69_500]

Thats basically right.  They pulled RT`s from the line to have converted at Creative and they were pulled in batches.  The earliest cars still had the regular RT vin up on the dash but as the program got going they got the XX tags out onto the assembly line floor for them.  

Going to have to correct this. The early 500's are XX on the dash. The only thing is they are also XS on the fender tags. Until November then they are XX everywhere. Now there is a handful of exceptions that are XS on the dash too but they are exceptions and are not in a batch just single mistakes scattered throughout the entire run.

[Ghoste]

My bad Danny, I was thinking it was the other way around and the fender tags had the correct XX.  Thanks.