Hemi Daytona Beaten Like a Rented Donkey

[Aero426]

Great footage from St Jovite, Mont Tremblant Quebec road course.   Love the smoke off the front tars. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlCk5KoCDF8

[maxwellwedge]

Doug - That was awesome. Any of our French speaking members want to translate some of the more interesting points? Taber-slack! 

[Aero426]

From Moparts:

Since I am sick in bed and cannot do much work today, I will translate most of what was said.

:47 " The Charger hits 60 mph in 6 sec thanks to good tires which have good adherence"
:54 " The motor is conceived for competition and is not that good for street use as it displays irregular slowing down"
1:02 " Engine also overheats easily as it hit 250 degrees during our tests here at Mont Tremblant"
1:15 " With a weight of 3675 lbs, the Daytona is not ready to flip over and the road handling is not great on the twisted circuit. It leans enormously in the curves"
1:30 " We lose traction on the next curve as the car has very bad understeering"
1:43 " Best lap we did was 2:15 which is pretty poor for a car with 425 hp.I must say though that the engine is much more comfortable at high revs.It can easily rev at 6000
and would be great on the highways"
2:23 " at 60 mph the car took 149 feet to stop during our breaking test"
The rest is basically describing the same dialogue but during a test lap. He mentions the smoke coming out of the fender traps. He says that the rear
spoiler is basically useless except at very high speeds.He hits 120 mph on the straight part of the circuit which makes it the fastest car he has tested to date on that track.
The disc brakes are not great as the car is quite heavy.
At the end he says that unless you are considering becoming Cale Yarborough or a drag racer he sees little reason to purchase a Daytona. Car cost $7000 and he suggests you buy a 383 or 440 instead.
The chalkboard says that the fit and finish is poor. The car is too big and the engine is capricious to adjust but it is a good engine.On the plus side it says the tranny is good along with acceleration and top speed.
Jules

[r4daytona]

Cool video. that thing has more lean to it in the turns than my one legged friend.

[tan top]

wow , awesome  stuff ,

never seen that before  , thanks for posting the link  
  wonder what the vin # &  color combo it is ?  tan interior  maybe  ??   i spy  chrome shift knob & a rear window defogger ,  guessing  it was/is  a Canadian ordered one    

[BB1]

Tires Tires Tires 

[maxwellwedge]

wow , awesome  stuff ,

never seen that before  , thanks for posting the link  
  wonder what the vin # &  color combo it is ?  tan interior  maybe  ??   i spy  chrome shift knob & a rear window defogger ,  guessing  it was/is  a Canadian ordered one    

Hard to see the VIN on the list but it may be car 397.....looks like 414639?

[nascarxx29]

 Re: Street driven daytonas owned by nascar drivers whereabouts?




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    Not a Nascar driver but Jacques Duval was a racecar driver in Quebec at one time or another. He tests cars every year and publishes an annual book on his findings/opinions entitled "Le Guide de l'auto". In the 1970 edition he tests a daytona which he claims was the personal car of Mr. Savaria. The following is the picture from that article


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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,33772.msg368693/topicseen.html#msg368693

[WINGIN IT]

Awesome , thanks for posting Doug. 
And thanks to whoever translated.

I think the car definitely looks metallic colored, dare I say bronze metallic???

[Ghoste]

He looks a little pissed off in that photo.

[WINGIN IT]

He looks a little pissed off in that photo.

Well other than the obvious - because he's french...
it's probably because he's pissed he didn't get a 4 speed, 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Doug - That was awesome. Any of our French speaking members want to translate some of the more interesting points? Taber-slack! 

I think he might have said that it handled like a greased pig.   

[Troy]

I bet you don't see too many guys drifting in a Hemi Daytona these days...

Troy

[Aero426]

I bet you don't see too many guys drifting in a Hemi Daytona these days...

Troy

Before they became commodities.... 

[Montreal Wing Car]

He looks a little pissed off in that photo.

Well other than the obvious - because he's french...

Hey! I resemble that remark, tabarnak!  

Great translation, Doug, does not sound like it's from Google?

The car is T5 Bronze, it's 414638.
Story is that it burned to the ground in the seventies and disappeared along with all tags, but that the wing is still around here...

Ben

[Aero426]

Ben, the translation was from Jules, the Wiperman on Moparts.   I am not that smart.

I show that 414638 still exists.  It is a V2 car,  the one without the nose and wing but with the braces in the trunk. 

[moparstuart]

Ben, the translation was from Jules, the Wiperman on Moparts.   I am not that smart.

I show that 414638 still exists.  It is a V2 car,  the one without the nose and wing but with the braces in the trunk.  

he is a member here  , that would be cool if this was his car .  

[Aero426]

Stuart, your dad said it was 414639.   Dat probably be the one.

[moparstuart]

Stuart, your dad said it was 414639.   Dat probably be the one.

  he had disowned me   

[hemigeno]

Ben, the translation was from Jules, the Wiperman on Moparts.   I am not that smart.

I show that 414638 still exists.  It is a V2 car,  the one without the nose and wing but with the braces in the trunk. 

roberts car he is a member here  , that would be cool if this was his car . 

It is the one that Doug mentioned which was spied/photographed years ago with the wing braces but without the wing, and it is 414638 - but it's original colors are T5 with a tan interior.  I won't mention the owner's name, because he's declined in the past to reveal that info which is certainly his prerogative.  He's well aware of his car's connection to the posted video, and was even kind enough to send me a copy of it a while back (I stink at YouTube and could never have posted it myself).  I think his wife is French Canadian, but regardless she's already translated the narrative for him.  A few other people on this site already know him and his car's story too 

[moparstuart]

Ben, the translation was from Jules, the Wiperman on Moparts.   I am not that smart.

I show that 414638 still exists.  It is a V2 car,  the one without the nose and wing but with the braces in the trunk.  

he is a member here  , that would be cool if this was his car .  

It is the one that Doug mentioned which was spied/photographed years ago with the wing braces but without the wing, and it is 414638 - but it's original colors are T5 with a tan interior.  I won't mention the owner's name, because he's declined in the past to reveal that info which is certainly his prerogative.  He's well aware of his car's connection to the posted video, and was even kind enough to send me a copy of it a while back (I stink at YouTube and could never have posted it myself).  I think his wife is French Canadian, but regardless she's already translated the narrative for him.  A few other people on this site already know him and his car's story too  

[Patronus]

I bet you don't see too many guys drifting in a Hemi Daytona these days...

Troy

Thats what I thought, SO cool to see someone grab some wheel in one. Thanks for posting!!

[maxwellwedge]

wow , awesome  stuff ,

never seen that before  , thanks for posting the link  
  wonder what the vin # &  color combo it is ?  tan interior  maybe  ??   i spy  chrome shift knob & a rear window defogger ,  guessing  it was/is  a Canadian ordered one    

Hard to see the VIN on the list but it may be car 397.....looks like 414639?

Was I right about it being #397? Very hard to read that part of the list.....VIN especially

[maxwellwedge]

Stuart, your dad said it was 414639.   Dat probably be the one.

  he had disowned me   

[hemi68charger]

Tres Bien !!!  Fantastique !!!

[Beep Beep Dave]

Here's a link to those pics, Robin sent them to me years ago:

http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/carsinbarns33.html

Dave

[NYCMille]

Jesus - front tires are almost folding off the rims...

[1970Moparmann]

Tres Bien !!!  Fantastique !!!

Troy, is that you in the video? 

[Highbanked Hauler]

 maybe its just me but those rivets for the vin. tag don't look like factory at least not compared to mine.

[Beep Beep Dave]

maybe its just me but those rivets for the vin. tag don't look like factory at least not compared to mine.

I would agree with that.

Dave

[moparstuart]

Stuart, your dad said it was 414639.   Dat probably be the one.

  he had disowned me   

daddy please take me back   

[hemi68charger]

Tres Bien !!!  Fantastique !!!

Troy, is that you in the video? 

Man, I'm old, but not THAT old......... I'd have to be in my 70's to be in that one...... 

[moparstuart]

here is what Galen said about it on facebook

   Galen Mopar In April of 2006 the owner brought the car, 9B414638 to my location. I did a full inspection on the car. Did Michel say he knows where the block is? Oh, but it is a warranty block. There is more to know about the car, the owner may share the whole story when it is finished.

[nascarxx29]

Odd dash rivets
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,34276.0.html

[1970Moparmann]

Tres Bien !!!  Fantastique !!!

Troy, is that you in the video? 

Man, I'm old, but not THAT old......... I'd have to be in my 70's to be in that one...... 

Troy, didn't mean to insult you..... Just talking about the driving style.

[mauve66]

amazing what they would try on those old skinny tires back then

[Ghoste]

No kidding huh?  And they were likely glad to have such state of the art tires instead of what was available only a few years earlier.

[70Sbird]

amazing what they would try on those old skinny tires back then

Skinny Whitewall tires at that!

[Mike DC]

  
(Sorry, I didn't realize this was a 3 week old thread.)

             
Curb weight - am I the only one who thinks 3675 lbs is pretty low?  For a Daytona with an iron-head Hemi?  Plenty of stock-bodied 440 cars weigh more than that.