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How rare is a 68 charger rt 440 4speed dana 60

Started by RT440A833, December 04, 2012, 03:44:57 PM

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RT440A833

Im just wanted to know how rare these cars actually are as im having trouble finding out about how many have roughly survived. I own a true surviver car which i've had for the last 4 years and im just trying to put together as much information about these cars as possible for my own records. Any info would be a great help!
68 Charger RT 440 4speed dana 60 3:54 no.s matching

Troy

I just saw the number the other day but I don't remember it exactly. It's just over 2,700 though. The Dana came standard on an R/T with a 4-speed so that part wouldn't make it rarer than any other R/T 4-speed. However, I'm not sure what the breakdown was between the 4.10 and 3.54 gearing. It seems that I see more 4.10s. The blue is a reasonably rare color as well (mine has a white top :D ).

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

F8-4life

The correct answer is, rare enough for you to feel damn good just even lookin at it/.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Troy on December 04, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
However, I'm not sure what the breakdown was between the 4.10 and 3.54 gearing. It seems that I see more 4.10s.

Troy


Troy, a 4:10 ratio was not available until '69 so ALL of the 68 four speeds had 3:54s
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

ACUDANUT

Are you sure about that.
Also, What is a " Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 2,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Troy

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on December 04, 2012, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: Troy on December 04, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
However, I'm not sure what the breakdown was between the 4.10 and 3.54 gearing. It seems that I see more 4.10s.

Troy


Troy, a 4:10 ratio was not available until '69 so ALL of the 68 four speeds had 3:54s
Wow! Really? I am obviously misinformed then. I thought I had done a lot of research - but, in my defense, it's easier to find information on 1969 models. I just checked one of my favorite fender tag decoder sites and see that 4.10 is no longer listed. Hmmm.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

lloyd3

Check out the post discussing "how many Chargers remaining" just up the page from this one. I also have the model year/driveline combination you have, and my guess was 5,000 to 7,000 total non-clone R/Ts remaining in good, driveable condition. How many of those that are 4-speed/Dana 60 cars would be significantly less than half of that, so.....2,500?  My R/T is UU-1 with C6B interior and black vinyl top and stripe.

68hardchargerrt

I have done some research on this exact model/combo, and there originally were 2,743 68 Charger R/T 440 - 4 speed Dana cars built.  This number comes directly from Chrysler Historical and I have the letter dated back to 1986 confirming this.  I will try to scan it in and post it here as soon as I can so we can all see it.

Greg. :cheers:
"If you ain't breaking stuff, you ain't driving it right"  Carroll Shelby

68hardchargerrt

Here is the letter with the production figures for 1968 Charger R/Ts.  Hope this helps. :cheers:
"If you ain't breaking stuff, you ain't driving it right"  Carroll Shelby

Mytur Binsdirti

Being that the R/T is a performance car, I wouldn't have thought that the differential between 440 automatic & 4 speed R/T's would be that great.  :shruggy:  Hemis were not that big of a spread.

lloyd3

With attrition, that 2743 number is much less now, probably less than half.  So maybe 1500 examples still in good shape? 1200 wouldn't surprise me.

fc7_plumcrazy

Quote from: RT440A833 on December 04, 2012, 03:44:57 PM
Im just wanted to know how rare these cars actually are as im having trouble finding out about how many have roughly survived. I own a true surviver car which i've had for the last 4 years and im just trying to put together as much information about these cars as possible for my own records. Any info would be a great help!

I am curious. Is your car QQ1?
I do have a QQ1 blue car with blue interieur, black top and stripe. 4-speed car and a survivor, too with only the drivers side fender repainted

Carsten

RT440A833

Thanks for the help, i've got most of that information thats been posted through all the books i've bought and read over the years. I was more after how many genuine factory manuals were roughly left numbers wise. I know that would be nearly impossible  to put a figure on but i thought i'd put it out there. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on those Chryser Historical build break down sheet.
My car is QQ1 paint code with delete strip and a black top and interior, it is a console car with the full metal finish console, it has a rear defroster, delete bonnet indicators, the steering wheel is the metal 3 spoke with the timber finish and was also ordered with the magnum rims with whitewall tyres. I have the build sheet and every part is orginal and matches the build sheet. I also have all the original paperwork and books that came with the car and every reciept for everything that was ever done on the car from 1968 through to 2005.
68 Charger RT 440 4speed dana 60 3:54 no.s matching

fc7_plumcrazy

thanks for the info.
Does it have original paint or has it been repaintet in the past?

Carsten

RT440A833

It has 99per cent of its paint on the outside of the body, the paint had to be touched up on the rear scuttle panel due to rust. The engine bay has been repainted because the battery exploded not long before i bought the car. The acid stripped right throuh the old paint, the previous owner managed to save the engines paint from any real damage. The under side of the bonnet hasnt been resprayed and the acid has pretty much taken most of the paint of that.
68 Charger RT 440 4speed dana 60 3:54 no.s matching

fc7_plumcrazy

sounfds similar to mine :2thumbs:
I have some minor rust trough on the lower quarters and leave it like that becuase I don't want to touch it. Mine hasn't gotten any touch ups despite the DS front fender which had a fender bender in 1972. Mine has the stripe and is a console 4-speed

Carsten

OldGuy

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on December 04, 2012, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: Troy on December 04, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
However, I'm not sure what the breakdown was between the 4.10 and 3.54 gearing. It seems that I see more 4.10s.

Troy


Troy, a 4:10 ratio was not available until '69 so ALL of the 68 four speeds had 3:54s

3:54's were stock from the factory on four speeds.  4:10's were available in 1968  - probably had to special order them.  My 1968 R/T 440 with the 3 speed 727 auto trans that I bought from the original owner had 4:10's - even showed on the window sticker.  Bought the car from him in 1969.
"I can tell by your sarcastic undertones, rude comments and total lack of common decency, that you and I could be best friends".

69CoronetRT

Quote from: OldGuy on December 10, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
3:54's were stock from the factory on four speeds.  4:10's were available in 1968  - probably had to special order them.  My 1968 R/T 440 with the 3 speed 727 auto trans that I bought from the original owner had 4:10's - even showed on the window sticker.  Bought the car from him in 1969.

Numerous gear ratios were available dealer installed through the performance parts catalog. I'd love to see a picture of the window sticker showing the option code and price.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.