OK, opening a can of worms, but, What is so Great about the General Lee?

[kikgas01]

There would still be fights.  If we support GL segregation they may as well just stay on the GL/DOH forums which already exist.

Post that on the front page of DC.COM and I am sure General owners won`t join and bother floks here.

[Ghoste]

Its hardly what I would consider clogged with GL threads though.

[Lennard]

You guys are missing the point, this is the point:

for and    

At least once a month someone on this forum thinks it's necessary to provoke General Lee owners / get opinions about The Dukes of Hazzard or the General Lee.

GIVE IT A REST!

Most topics about Dukes/General are opened with the intension to stir the pot/create friction although it will always be denied.  
Why can't we all get along? We all have interest in the same DODGE CHARGER.

[Ghoste]

There would still be fights.  If we support GL segregation they may as well just stay on the GL/DOH forums which already exist.

Post that on the front page of DC.COM and I am sure General owners won`t join and bother floks here.

I understand what youère saying and I understand how my post would be taken the way you are reading it.  Iève worded it poorly but my intent there was that segregating special interests within the board takes away from the general discussion of Chargers.  People will tend to stay in their personal interest areas and if you are going to do that, why bother having an inclusive Charger board, why not just have special interest forums

[Khyron]

wow.... why don't we just alienate people who do what they like with their cars... some of you guys are just jackass's. WTF give you the right to tell anyone what to do with THEIR car? Fraking morons.

Come at me with what I did with my car... you know... MY car.

Now concentrate your hate on the NEW chargers....

[JB400]

I agree.  That is why I posted a poll in putting a gl section in the mopar garage.  Post the build ups and general discussions where they are already.  If you own a charger or favor a charger, (no matter how it's painted) you should have the right to post here.

[kikgas01]

Khyron, there are NEW Chargers?
THIS IS FOR EVERYONE LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc

[tippytoe]

Personally, I don't care what you're doing with you're Charger as long as you're enjoying it and/or not letting it rot. Any steps taken to preserve these cars is a positive step in my mind.  In the end, the car isn't rotting in a field somewhere so it's all good!

I agree 100 % 

[Cooter]

 Most of the people that are here on the CHARGER....Plain Charger site....Just simple Chargers, are here because of that orange Charger. THIS and ONLY this IMO, is the true problem people have with the GL. Jealousy and the need for sh*t stirring disguised as a "Discussion"....


AGAIN, I ask the question.....

If so many here are "Tired" of all the GL bullsh*t, and think what you do with your own car is ok....Then, why do these type threads get to be 6 pages long? No resolve, just 6 pages of drama...Looks like to me, these threads would be shut down within the first three posts...Of course, that would make sense.

[Dino]

I don't think this has anything to do with jealousy.  It's not that hard to build a GL and it's a hell of a lot cheaper than restoring a car to stock specs. 

Of course there's a lot of drama, people feed on this shit.  Why do you think there's all this 'reality TV' drama going on?  People buy into it.  Maybe not you or me but a great chunk of peeps needs the drama for whatever messed up reason.

Personally, I don't give a damn what people do to their cars.  I accept the fact that a certain percentage of charger owners want to turn it into a GL and that's absolutely fine.  Sure I get bored to see another, and I would get just as bored seeing a bunch of chargers painted black with a vinyl top and magnums, sometimes it's nice to see something different.

There's nothing wrong here, there's no harm done and nobody died over it, it's just boring, nothing more nothing less.

If more GL's would be done right it would be much more fun but I can't stand the half assed hack jobs with spray bomb interiors any more.  Some members here have stunning GL's, JB's comes to mind.  Absolutely gorgeous. 

Hlpaq ruined much for me, every time I see a GL, I see a bondoed piece of crap, even if it's not. 

[Ghoste]

I still and never will believe that most of the people that are into Charger let alone the ones on this plain simple Charger site are into them because of the GL.  You DOH fans believe whatever you like but I think your credit extends further into casual fans of cars than it does the hardcore Charger fans.

[JB400]

I still and never will believe that most of the people that are into Charger let alone the ones on this plain simple Charger site are into them because of the GL.  You DOH fans believe whatever you like but I think your credit extends further into casual fans of cars than it does the hardcore Charger fans.

Maybe you ought to rethink about posting that.  There are quite a few diehard Charger fans (not thinking football) that love the Charger, that was introduced to it by DoH.  Not everyone had a brother that had one, or knew a guy down the street that had one, or seen one rumble by every once in a while.  If this is what you think, go wax a car and think about it.  Seems like some of these purists would rather lock these cars up in a warehouse,never to see the light of day,and let them rot to the ground in there.  In this case, I wouldn't consider these people hardcore Charger people either.

Hardcore Charger people are the ones driving their cars, enjoying them, and letting other people enjoy them, no matter how they're painted.  Casual fans are tire kickers with pictures on the wall.  Go wax a car and think about it.

[Ghoste]

I have thought about it, thats why I posted it.  Yes there are some there are also many that aren't.  Believe it or not there are quite a few of us that liked the car before the show came out.  Cooter's assertion is that MOST of the people who don't have a GL are only into Chargers because of the GL.  Is it possible?  Yes, it is possible.  But there is no way of knowing it and my opinion is opposite so that is what I stand by.  If you have evidence to the contrary post away.  You will post something for sure anyway so even if its just your opinion contrary to mine, have at it.
At no time however, should you delude yourself into thinking you might change my mind by offering nothing more than an opinion.
This is likely my biggest problem with the GL (the hokey culture that surrounds it would be second but that is nothing but a personal feeling on it), it baffles me that so many GL fans think that enarly everyone who likes the car does so because of the GL.  Just because it draws a crowd at a shopping mall doesn't mean that everyone who has a Charger bought it because of the show.  The recent poll in Mopar Muscle proves little either.  The editors "suspected" the GL influenced the poll and they are probably right.  But do you really believe that every one of those respondents owned a Charger and did so because of DOH?  Do you really believe that all of the repsondents even own a car?  Its a tenuous connection.
I hope this was thoughtful enough for you.

[RECHRGD]

I have thought about it, thats why I posted it.  Yes there are some there are also many that aren't.  Believe it or not there are quite a few of us that liked the car before the show came out.  Cooter's assertion is that MOST of the people who don't have a GL are only into Chargers because of the GL.  Is it possible?  Yes, it is possible.  But there is no way of knowing it and my opinion is opposite so that is what I stand by.  If you have evidence to the contrary post away.  You will post something for sure anyway so even if its just your opinion contrary to mine, have at it.
At no time however, should you delude yourself into thinking you might change my mind by offering nothing more than an opinion.
This is likely my biggest problem with the GL (the hokey culture that surrounds it would be second but that is nothing but a personal feeling on it), it baffles me that so many GL fans think that enarly everyone who likes the car does so because of the GL.  Just because it draws a crowd at a shopping mall doesn't mean that everyone who has a Charger bought it because of the show.  The recent poll in Mopar Muscle proves little either.  The editors "suspected" the GL influenced the poll and they are probably right.  But do you really believe that every one of those respondents owned a Charger and did so because of DOH?  Do you really believe that all of the repsondents even own a car?  Its a tenuous connection.
I hope this was thoughtful enough for you.

I agree with this Ghost....  I generally stay away from these GL posts but, it still drives me nuts when people want to reason that the popularity of the 2nd generation Chargers is due to some 1970's hillbilly TV show.  Sure, there will be some who identify with the car because of the show, but certainly not in the numbers that some GL owners seem to believe.  I'm older than most of the members here and was fortunate enough to buy my first 1968 Charger R/T off of the showroom floor.  When the '68 Charger was introduced, the public went crazy for it and nobody had ever heard of the DOH show.  It was marketed as a somewhat upscale gentlemans hot rod and fit the bill perfectly.  I'm not a hater by any means, but don't tell me that I'm jealous of people that own a GL.  If I was, then I'd own one.  I know there are plenty of great upstanding folks out there that own GL's, but there is a stereotype attached to the car that seems to draw people to it with two first names and missing teeth.  OK, I'll go back to my cave now.....

[HeavyFuel]

Just because folks stare at your car doesn't mean it's better.

Who do you think gets alot of attention at this gathering....c'mon, be honest....it's the pale chick.

I mean, really......WTF is she doing there?  Being herself, that's what.

Guess what?  She's a porn star....no really......she is.

So would I like to own a GL?   About as much as I'd like to be married to a porn star.  

Would I stare, and maybe drool a little if a nice GL rolled by my house?  Do I appreciate quality porn?  Hell yes.......to both!

So....from this point on, GLs will be known as the porn stars of the Charger world.

[JB400]

Now that you thought about it, we now agree.  (Yes, I know your last post was not in it's final draft.)  Yes, there will be those that are in to the Charger just for the General Lee,  but from what I've been reading on here, most were just introduced to the Charger by DoH.  They just wasn't old enough to get one off the showroom floor and the Charger was all but forgotten, except by those that owned them or knew about them.  All the car shows I get to go to, there are no chargers.  There's only one 73 SE that roams around and that's it.  I would have never known about the Charger if it wasn't for DoH.  I'd be driving a Camaro.

Now will I build a GL?  Have yet to be determined.  If I do, I'll build a stock looking one as well.  But, I've had more support to build a GL than not to.  Either way, my choice.

Also, I was in no mean trying to change your opinion.  Just giving you a chance to further clarify yourself before the hate mail comes in.  Glad you did

The only reason the pale chick gets the most attention is because she's in the middle, and wearing the most bikini.  I don't think she'd be the porn star, just the chick wanting the attention of a porn star.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

I'll take the 2nd turd cutter from the right please.

[HeavyFuel]

Now that you thought about it, we now agree.  (Yes, I know your last post was not in it's final draft.)  Yes, there will be those that are in to the Charger just for the General Lee,  but from what I've been reading on here, most were just introduced to the Charger by DoH.  They just wasn't old enough to get one off the showroom floor and the Charger was all but forgotten, except by those that owned them or knew about them.  All the car shows I get to go to, there are no chargers.  There's only one 73 SE that roams around and that's it.  I would have never known about the Charger if it wasn't for DoH.  I'd be driving a Camaro.

Now will I build a GL?  Have yet to be determined.  If I do, I'll build a stock looking one as well.  But, I've had more support to build a GL than not to.  Either way, my choice.

Also, I was in no mean trying to change your opinion.  Just giving you a chance to further clarify yourself before the hate mail comes in.  Glad you did

The only reason the pale chick gets the most attention is because she's in the middle, and wearing the most bikini.  I don't think she'd be the porn star, just the chick wanting the attention of a porn star.

You missed my point. 

And she is a porn star.......Christine Young.

[JB400]

Point taken again  As far as her name, I didn't know.  I don't pay attention to names   What's her name again

[Cooter]

I agree with this Ghost....  I generally stay away from these GL posts but, it still drives me nuts when people want to reason that the popularity of the 2nd generation Chargers is due to some 1970's hillbilly TV show.  Sure, there will be some who identify with the car because of the show, but certainly not in the numbers that some GL owners seem to believe.  I'm older than most of the members here and was fortunate enough to buy my first 1968 Charger R/T off of the showroom floor.  When the '68 Charger was introduced, the public went crazy for it and nobody had ever heard of the DOH show.  It was marketed as a somewhat upscale gentlemans hot rod and fit the bill perfectly.  I'm not a hater by any means, but don't tell me that I'm jealous of people that own a GL.  If I was, then I'd own one.  I know there are plenty of great upstanding folks out there that own GL's, but there is a stereotype attached to the car that seems to draw people to it with two first names and missing teeth.  OK, I'll go back to my cave now.....

Obviously, your frustration has clouded your thinking here. "Cooter" didn't say EVERYBODY, he said MOST were influenced by DOH. Like it or not.

This is proven each time i read a post about how someone came up to your Charger at a show and asked "When are you gonna paint it orange?"

[RECHRGD]

I agree with this Ghost....  I generally stay away from these GL posts but, it still drives me nuts when people want to reason that the popularity of the 2nd generation Chargers is due to some 1970's hillbilly TV show.  Sure, there will be some who identify with the car because of the show, but certainly not in the numbers that some GL owners seem to believe.  I'm older than most of the members here and was fortunate enough to buy my first 1968 Charger R/T off of the showroom floor.  When the '68 Charger was introduced, the public went crazy for it and nobody had ever heard of the DOH show.  It was marketed as a somewhat upscale gentlemans hot rod and fit the bill perfectly.  I'm not a hater by any means, but don't tell me that I'm jealous of people that own a GL.  If I was, then I'd own one.  I know there are plenty of great upstanding folks out there that own GL's, but there is a stereotype attached to the car that seems to draw people to it with two first names and missing teeth.  OK, I'll go back to my cave now.....

Obviously, your frustration has clouded your thinking here. "Cooter" didn't say EVERYBODY, he said MOST were influenced by DOH. Like it or not.

This is proven each time i read a post about how someone came up to your Charger at a show and asked "When are you gonna paint it orange?"

And posts like cooters' is exactly why I stay away from GL posts.  No class......  Good bye....

[Ghoste]

How do you make the leap of faith that someone walking up to a Charger owner at a car show and asking when it will get painted orange is proof that most of the people on this forum are here because of the GL?  Thats ridiculous.  The only way to apply that logic would be that most of the people here are going to everyones car shows to make a point of asking all the non GL-ified Charger owners (who also must be on the site in order to make the required post about the event) when they are painting it orange.
Sorry but I just can't buy that. 

It doens't matter in any event because I am as likely to change your mind as you are mine.

[Ghoste]

Now that you thought about it, we now agree.  (Yes, I know your last post was not in it's final draft.)  

No, it was in its final draft and shouldn't really have needed further explanation but I complied anyway and took your bait.

[Mike DC]

  
I think the majority of people who ask a Charger owner "When you gonna paint it like the GL?" are just making conversation.  Maybe some really want to see it happen but a lot of them are just talking.  



When it comes to GL owners defending the TV show as the source of the Charger's popularity, many of them are doing exactly that - defending their beloved car from criticism it is receiving.  

I have yet to see a GL at a show with a signboard on the front that says "The General Lee, the source of the '69 Charger's popularity!"

[hemi68charger]

Mickey Mouse started off as a normal "mouse"..... Now he's an national icon, similarly with the GL and the pop culture sitcom of the "Dukes of Hazard". To each their own. I would never own one with my limited financial means. But, if I had a Jay-Leno bank account, I'd own one.. The GL is plain cool.... Period......... Now, if one doesn't agree, see the passage "Freedom of choice"....