Does anyone use light therapy?

[Dino]

This is for seasonal affective disorder (sad) aka the winter blues.

There are so many lamps out there it makes it hard to pick one so I thought I'd give it a shot here.

[Chryco Psycho]

I suffered very badly , far north of you so I moved to Panama , things seem a lot better here !!

[Alaskan_TA]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Mirror-Ball-LED-Projector-Halloween-Disco-Party-Light-Decoration-/160916545208?pt=US_Costume_Accessories&hash=item25775f9eb8

One of those with some music may help?

[Fred]

Is this for real?
I had no idea that such a thing as SAD existed. I mean bad weather can leave us all a little depressed at times but so much so that there's a name for it is news to me.
Excuse my ignorance please..........do you actually suffer depression throughout the winter months? and does this occur every winter? If so is it not possible for you to move to a state where the weather is more favourable?

[JB400]

I think there actually is.  To be honest, I've been known to leave christmas lights on a month or so after the holiday.  It just seems to brighten things up around here.  But, cabin fever has something to do with it as well.  It's no fun being stuck indoors all the time when it's gloomy outside for weeks at a time.

[Alaskan_TA]

We average 13 feet of rain here a year.

SAD / Cabin Fever, whatever you want to call it, it does exist.

[XH29N0G]

It's real. 

Unfortunately, I don't know about selecting lights so cannot help.

[djcarguy]

  Its very real and my girl has and uses light and says it helps.my brother moved to LasVegas and that helps him being out of Oregon and our months of clouds and rain.

    i talked to my doctor ,he said it works for some wiTH mild case depressions and winter blues..
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 SENCE THE LOSS OF OUR MOPAR BROTHER IVE BEEN THINKING OF A THREAD..  IF ANYONE IS SUFFERING FROM WINTER BLUES AND OR SADNESS AND LOSS OF MOTIVATION---------PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR DOCTOR----FAMILY ---OR FRIENDS.  THIS A VERY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT AND GET HELP IF ANY DARK AND BAD IDEAS ARE GOING THRU YOUR MIND... PLEASE I BEG, ASK HERE OR SOMEWHERE FOR HELP......

   MESSAGE OR PM,,ME OR SOMEONE ,PLEASE.  IT CAN BE A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH.........TALKING AND GROUP CAN HELP ALOT TOO.. I HAVE HAD BLUES AND DEPRESSED TIMES SINCE HIGH SCHOOL AND ON AND OFF MEDS, FOR 16 YEARS NOW,LOST JOBS AND WIFE OVER THIS STUFF...  

 SO PLEASE  IF IN DEPRESSED--LASTING BLUES STATE OF MIND ,,,ASK AND GET HELP....MANY PEOPLE WILL SAY SILLY THINGS LIKE ,GET OVER IT OR LONG TIME AGO GET PAST IT,SNAP OUT OF IT.  BUT THE MIND IS TRICKY AND YOU CAN NOT JUST WILL THINGS AWAY.  MANY PEOPLE ARE MORE UNDERSTANDING AND HELPFUL THESE DAY...

   IF YOU ARE CANCERNED,,FOR GOD SAKE ASK FOR HELP,HERE OR DOC AND FAMILY...THANKS FOR TIME,,DJ

[74bluecharger440]

Part of it is a lack of sunlight ,in winter  I go through so much vitamin D to offset the lack of It from the sun..

[Dino]

Yep it's real.  I don't have it too bad, some people can't even function properly in winter.  I do find myself being more down and have less energy during the winter months.  The problem is the lack of light.  With these short days I don't see much sun at all.  I'm not willing to move though, I love living here.  If I really really got depressed over the winters here then sure, but it's not THAT bad.  Besides I have a job and am going to college here.  I'm not willing to leave the University of Michigan health system either, it's too good to give up.

I've checked Amazon for these lamps and they really seem to help but I would've liked to have some first hand experience.

When I do find one I will post a review as it may help others as well.

[Mike DC]

There is a difference between how indoor and outdoor light affects your mood.  Indoor light is way, way less bright and it's too yellowish.  Outdoor sunlight has much more of an impact on lifting your mood than anything indoors. 

 

[Dino]

There is a difference between how indoor and outdoor light affects your mood.  Indoor light is way, way less bright and it's too yellowish.  Outdoor sunlight has much more of an impact on lifting your mood than anything indoors. 

 

Correct, these lamps produce a very bright light at 10,000 lux though.  It's not like sitting in the sun by all means but apparently the stuff works.

[JB400]

Dj is right.  Ask for help on here   This is a support group.  Not only for fixing cars, but for life in general.   Don't be afraid to ask for help.

[Chryco Psycho]

Is this for real?
I had no idea that such a thing as SAD existed. I mean bad weather can leave us all a little depressed at times but so much so that there's a name for it is news to me.
Excuse my ignorance please..........do you actually suffer depression throughout the winter months? and does this occur every winter? If so is it not possible for you to move to a state where the weather is more favourable?

Very real & I suffered badly , Jeckle & Hyde , summer I was fine could not get sick , mid summer I would start to get depressed just having to think about winter , I spent as much as 6 months / year sick all the time in winter ! Our days in dec the sun would come up approx 8:30 am & go down approx 4:15 pm , if you worked in an office you were in the dark for about 3 months & the sun was barely over the horizon at mid day , further north is it much worse where you get to 24 hr darkness with twighlight for a bit . Temps as lows as -66 C*where I was often working . Nothing seemed to help , tried artificial light , prescription drugs , diet etc .
I tried for 30 years to move south to the US , finally gave up & moved to Panama , best thing I could have done Period !

[Dino]

Is this for real?
I had no idea that such a thing as SAD existed. I mean bad weather can leave us all a little depressed at times but so much so that there's a name for it is news to me.
Excuse my ignorance please..........do you actually suffer depression throughout the winter months? and does this occur every winter? If so is it not possible for you to move to a state where the weather is more favourable?

Very real & I suffered badly , Jeckle & Hyde , summer I was fine could not get sick , mid summer I would start to get depressed just have to think about winter , I spent as much as 6 months / year sick all the time in winter ! Our days in dec the sun would come up approx 8:30 am & go down approx 4:15 pm , if you worked in an office you were in the dark for about 3 months & the sun was barely over the horizon at mid day , further north is it much worse where you get to 24 hr darkness with twighlight for a bit . Temps as lows as -66 C*where I was often working . Nothing seemed to help , tried artificial light , prescription drugs , diet etc .
I tried for 30 years to move south to the US , finally gave up & moved to Panama , best thing I could have done Period !

Em and I are very happy it worked out for you Neal.

[Chryco Psycho]

Thanks , I had to do something , could not live where I was any longer

[2Gunz]

The color temperature of the sun is about 5700K...........

So if your serious about this I would start by changing your house light bulbs.

Normal incandescent bulbs are about 3200K, they look yellowish and are "dreary".

Florescent and LED bulbs can be found in the 5200K ish range. They are more blue/white and more "natural"

[djcarguy]

    DINO, i talked to my girl tonite. in her mid 20es she used the lite therapy and  working out and it helped her alot for a few years.20-30 minutes aday and her hubby got light at local home improvement place,does not remember brand.  well 2009 she is married and promotted at work,lots more stress and economy and hubby not getting much work.she got depressed and doc went with meds and she got lots better.

   well mid 2011 off meds to have a baby and was doing good,healthy gran baby girl in 2012. when it came time for her to go back ta work and stress, she got down stayed off meds for baby milk and all that. tonite she tells me she has been to doc and back on meds had a cold and it drained her so much.  her and hubby desided was time and got to doc and back on meds.

hope this may help,i knew of 2 others that used it but no longer in touch with them.all the best ta ya.dj ,rainytown

[Fred]

Part of it is a lack of sunlight ,in winter  I go through so much vitamin D to offset the lack of It from the sun..

We have a big issue with vit D deficiency in this country too. Not for lack of sunshine though, but rather because we've all been told to cover up to avoid skin cancer.

[Fred]

Yep it's real.  I don't have it too bad, some people can't even function properly in winter.  I do find myself being more down and have less energy during the winter months.  The problem is the lack of light.  With these short days I don't see much sun at all.  I'm not willing to move though, I love living here.  If I really really got depressed over the winters here then sure, but it's not THAT bad.  Besides I have a job and am going to college here.  I'm not willing to leave the University of Michigan health system either, it's too good to give up.

I've checked Amazon for these lamps and they really seem to help but I would've liked to have some first hand experience.

When I do find one I will post a review as it may help others as well.

And here I am contributing to your plight by prattling on about our lovely weather all year round. I sincerely apologise.

[Dino]

Yep it's real.  I don't have it too bad, some people can't even function properly in winter.  I do find myself being more down and have less energy during the winter months.  The problem is the lack of light.  With these short days I don't see much sun at all.  I'm not willing to move though, I love living here.  If I really really got depressed over the winters here then sure, but it's not THAT bad.  Besides I have a job and am going to college here.  I'm not willing to leave the University of Michigan health system either, it's too good to give up.

I've checked Amazon for these lamps and they really seem to help but I would've liked to have some first hand experience.

When I do find one I will post a review as it may help others as well.

And here I am contributing to your plight by prattling on about our lovely weather all year round. I sincerely apologise.

I took no offense Fred, you're fine.   

    DINO, i talked to my girl tonite. in her mid 20es she used the lite therapy and  working out and it helped her alot for a few years.20-30 minutes aday and her hubby got light at local home improvement place,does not remember brand.  well 2009 she is married and promotted at work,lots more stress and economy and hubby not getting much work.she got depressed and doc went with meds and she got lots better.

   well mid 2011 off meds to have a baby and was doing good,healthy gran baby girl in 2012. when it came time for her to go back ta work and stress, she got down stayed off meds for baby milk and all that. tonite she tells me she has been to doc and back on meds had a cold and it drained her so much.  her and hubby desided was time and got to doc and back on meds.

hope this may help,i knew of 2 others that used it but no longer in touch with them.all the best ta ya.dj ,rainytown

Thanks a million Dj, much appreciated.  I think I'll consult my doc as well and see what alternative means she comes up with.  It's good to have options.

[djcarguy]

   YES I STRONGLY AGREE WITH GO TO THE DOC,AND THEY WILL HAVE UPDATED INFO AND PAMPLETS.. MAY HAVE SOME STRONG ?    ? TO ASK YA TOO .BUT DINO YOU DONT SOUND LIKE YOUR TOO BAD, BUT CAN BE BETTER.


   SLEEP IS A BIG FACTOR IN SARITONUN,,SP. AND CHEMICAL BALANCE IN BRAIN=====PROPER DIET AND DRINK?==  ONES ACTIVITY LEVEL===== OVER ALL FITNESS AND HEALTH=====  AND VIETAMINS AND SUN LIGHT??

    BEST TO ASK YA DOC.WHILE FAMILY AND FRIENDS CAN BE GOOD SUPPORT,TILL YA GET TO DOC .. THERE IS LOTS OF BAD INFO AND OLD WIVES TALES. SOME DONT KNOW AND GO TO THE OLD GET OVER IT,SNAP OUT OF IT.

  BEST BET IS A DOC,MY FAMILY DOC IS THE ONE WHO GOT ME STARTED ON A BETTER PATH.....  THE WINTER AND HOLIDAYS ARE BAD FOR ME OR WHEN INJURIED AND IN PAIN FOR LONG PERIODS. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TA YA ALL

[Dino]

   YES I STRONGLY AGREE WITH GO TO THE DOC,AND THEY WILL HAVE UPDATED INFO AND PAMPLETS.. MAY HAVE SOME STRONG ?    ? TO ASK YA TOO .BUT DINO YOU DONT SOUND LIKE YOUR TOO BAD, BUT CAN BE BETTER.


   SLEEP IS A BIG FACTOR IN SARITONUN,,SP. AND CHEMICAL BALANCE IN BRAIN=====PROPER DIET AND DRINK?==  ONES ACTIVITY LEVEL===== OVER ALL FITNESS AND HEALTH=====  AND VIETAMINS AND SUN LIGHT??

    BEST TO ASK YA DOC.WHILE FAMILY AND FRIENDS CAN BE GOOD SUPPORT,TILL YA GET TO DOC .. THERE IS LOTS OF BAD INFO AND OLD WIVES TALES. SOME DONT KNOW AND GO TO THE OLD GET OVER IT,SNAP OUT OF IT.

  BEST BET IS A DOC,MY FAMILY DOC IS THE ONE WHO GOT ME STARTED ON A BETTER PATH.....  THE WINTER AND HOLIDAYS ARE BAD FOR ME OR WHEN INJURIED AND IN PAIN FOR LONG PERIODS. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TA YA ALL

Yeah I'm not too bad, I don't get into deep depressions but it's enough to way me down and the people around me which is worse. 

People, including me, tend to think that their problems are not important enough because others have it worse.  Well theirs may have started as little problems as well so whatever it is, get it taken care of.

Good posts dj.   

[djcarguy]

   WEll 1 other thing is to keep real pictures with ya,been doing it so long i forgot till at bar sunday watching races.
keep pics of cars,kids,any think good and happy.real pics,if stressed or moody,find a spot an go thru them slowly,touch and lok at them afew times. it always calms and centers me,phone pics may work ,dont know never had a CELL TRACKing DEVICE and sure dont want or need calls inpublic.. i want to break cells when morons use them and talk loud around me in public...

    also do a search here---depression--or--anxiety,some info ..........beware under depression is alot bout 2nd gen hoods and doors,hit me as funny the other night,did not know 2 gens had so much incommin with depression,hahahaha

 get a small copy joke book and keep in car,can pull over and forget bout stress ,just laugh your head off for few minutes and freck out other people ,,,,guy laughing in car???   hav aa goood en,dj

[Mytur Binsdirti]

This is for seasonal affective disorder (sad) aka the winter blues.

There are so many lamps out there it makes it hard to pick one so I thought I'd give it a shot here.

While everyone around here complains about winter, I found something to do that's fun in the winter; snowmobiling.

[JB400]

This is for seasonal affective disorder (sad) aka the winter blues.

There are so many lamps out there it makes it hard to pick one so I thought I'd give it a shot here.

While everyone around here complains about winter, I found something to do that's fun in the winter; snowmobiling.

That is one thing some people have a hard time doing, making winter or rainy days fun.  I for one, don't mind them.

[Fred]

This is for seasonal affective disorder (sad) aka the winter blues.

There are so many lamps out there it makes it hard to pick one so I thought I'd give it a shot here.

While everyone around here complains about winter, I found something to do that's fun in the winter; snowmobiling.

That is one thing some people have a hard time doing, making winter or rainy days fun.  I for one, don't mind them.

I love to curl up in a comfy chair, good fire burning in the wood heater, with a good book or a code breaker or crossword puzzle. I especially love it when it's foggy outside. As long as it doesn't last for more than a day or two.
Mrs. Fred

[stripedelete]

"Bring out... The Comfy Chair!!!!"

[Dino]

Actually I don't hate winter as so many do and love sitting by the fireplace.  I don't care for snowmobile's or any of that though, saw to many mangled bodies at the hospital because of those things as well but I digress, I just don't care for it.

The problem I, and others, have is not the lack of activity in winter but the lack of light.  That's it.  I have plenty to do to keep me busy and in fact don't have enough spare time to do what I would like.  But I need the friggin' light.

[Marck]

As others have mentioned, I also have to take vitamin D to get by in the winter.. I've struggled to keep my self motivated and have had no energy at all when it was dark outside when I left for work, and dark outside when I Got off work.. I've had theese issues for years, but finally went to the doctor last year, and he found out that my vitamin D level was extremely low, less than 1/10 of normal.. It has really helped me enjoy winter season more..

[Fred]

  But I need the friggin' light.

Life without light...........I don't think I could handle it.

[Fred]

As others have mentioned, I also have to take vitamin D to get by in the winter.. I've struggled to keep my self motivated and have had no energy at all when it was dark outside when I left for work, and dark outside when I Got off work.. I've had theese issues for years, but finally went to the doctor last year, and he found out that my vitamin D level was extremely low, less than 1/10 of normal.. It has really helped me enjoy winter season more..

Good to hear you've pulled through it alright Marck 

[djcarguy]

 Its very real and my girl has and uses light and says it helps.my brother moved to LasVegas and that helps him being out of Oregon and our months of clouds and rain.

    i talked to my doctor ,he said it works for some wiTH mild case depressions and winter blues..
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 SENCE THE LOSS OF OUR MOPAR BROTHER IVE BEEN THINKING OF A THREAD..  IF ANYONE IS SUFFERING FROM WINTER BLUES AND OR SADNESS AND LOSS OF MOTIVATION---------PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR DOCTOR----FAMILY ---OR FRIENDS.  THIS A VERY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT AND GET HELP IF ANY DARK AND BAD IDEAS ARE GOING THRU YOUR MIND... PLEASE I BEG, ASK HERE OR SOMEWHERE FOR HELP......
              HAPPY HOLIDAYS,WITH HELP THINGS CAN GET BETTTER..   
   MESSAGE OR PM,,ME OR SOMEONE ,PLEASE.  IT CAN BE A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH.........TALKING AND GROUP CAN HELP ALOT TOO.. I HAVE HAD BLUES AND DEPRESSED TIMES SINCE HIGH SCHOOL AND ON AND OFF MEDS, FOR 16 YEARS NOW,LOST JOBS AND WIFE OVER THIS STUFF...  

 SO PLEASE  IF IN DEPRESSED--LASTING BLUES STATE OF MIND ,,,ASK AND GET HELP....MANY PEOPLE WILL SAY SILLY THINGS LIKE ,GET OVER IT OR LONG TIME AGO GET PAST IT,SNAP OUT OF IT.  BUT THE MIND IS TRICKY AND YOU CAN NOT JUST WILL THINGS AWAY.  MANY PEOPLE ARE MORE UNDERSTANDING AND HELPFUL THESE DAY...

   IF YOU ARE CANCERNED,,FOR GOD SAKE ASK FOR HELP,HERE OR DOC AND FAMILY...THANKS FOR TIME,,DJ

[plum500]

Some promising technology... http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/142086-new-plastic-light-bulbs-are-cheap-bright-shatterproof-and-flicker-free

[djcarguy]

       I have tv,computor box or radio on pretty much 24\7 as disttraction and something to spare me from the time alone and the neverending things my mind races on and on about.  i can not just say bed time and turn everything off and go to sleep.  my mind just focuses on things and races away keeping me up. i sleep in the recliner to keep back and knees bent and alined from side loads or twist.so i leave tv on and finally just drift off . well ya all hangin and find stuff that works for you..

Well heres to a happy holiday and bettttttttter new year

[The70RT]

I'm glad you guys got it all figured out. I never teally thought sbout it except for the light beer.....i went dark over the last couple years 

[HeavyFuel]

The problem I, and others, have is not the lack of activity in winter but the lack of light.  That's it.  I have plenty to do to keep me busy and in fact don't have enough spare time to do what I would like.  But I need the friggin' light.

Bingo.

You gotta have light.....and a little heat wouldn't hurt either. 

Today's sunlight where I live:  Sunrise  8:19 AM  / Sunset  4:54 PM.


Thankfully my office window is on the south side of the building, and the sun shines right on my desk.  It helps alot.

[67_Dodge_Charger]

I noticed that I am happier when the sun finally breaks through the clouds here in Missoula.  We are hit with inversions most of the winter, but I can drive out of town into a different valley and the sun will be shining on the bright white snow.  It really cheers me up and then it is back to the gray winter skies of Missoula. 

I try to keep busy during the winter months and my job keeps me outside most of the winter.

[djcarguy]

    HAPPY HOLIDAYS YA'ALLS.  HANGIN AN ENJOY THE SEASON ONLY FEW MORE DAYS TILL WE GET A SHOT AT A BRAN NEW YEAR,LUCKY 13,,2013 THE TWENTY THIRTEEN,WOOHOO   WHAT GREAT AND WONDERFUL THING WILL THE NEW YEAR BRING??

  WELL  OOOOH CAPS SORRY ,,, heres to it will, all beee beeeetter next year and   merry festavas day ta ya alls.   thats enoff a dat......

[djcarguy]

    HAPPY HOLIDAYS YA'ALLS.  HANGIN AN ENJOY THE SEASON ONLY FEW MORE DAYS TILL WE GET A SHOT AT A BRAN NEW YEAR,LUCKY 13,,2013 THE TWENTY THIRTEEN,WOOHOO   WHAT GREAT AND WONDERFUL THING WILL THE NEW YEAR BRING??

  WELL  OOOOH CAPS SORRY ,,, heres to it will, all beee beeeetter next year and   merry festavas day ta ya alls.   thats enoff a dat......

[djcarguy]

    I know its been a long time,but with that time of year again??  saw this an hoped it may help  people out with ideas to deal with the season..

    heres to ya all an hoping we all do well headed into the dark season..  an holidays racing up on us again,,oh boy?

    take care and stay warm an healthy,out there...lattter DJ in the rainy cloudy oregon,,all fog lately

[burnout.dawg]

I would be very interested to know if light therapy really works. Its only October and I'm already feeling the effects of the dwindling daylight. It's going to be one hell of a long winter...sigh.
DJ...I've given up on drug therapy. Got tired of being a pharmaceutical guinea pig searching for the right medication. Either the side effects have been unbearable or my system builds up a tolerance. Too expensive.
Someone mentioned vitamin D...think I'll give that a try as well.

Thanks to all of you for being here. Love the playfulness and funnies. I know as long as I can still laugh...I'm doing okay 

[polywideblock]

geez you guys do it tough   , thoughts to you       if anything we get to much light its getting light at 4:30am and don't get dark till 8- 8:30 pm .  gotta love daylight saving      finally figured out that's why i'm missing everyone again ,i'v been moved forward a hour   

[burnout.dawg]

I might have to consider moving to Australia. Would you consider a roommate? 

[Fred]

Thanks to all of you for being here. Love the playfulness and funnies. I know as long as I can still laugh...I'm doing okay 

Even if we have to pin a name tag on you.

[Fred]

geez you guys do it tough   , thoughts to you       if anything we get to much light its getting light at 4:30am and don't get dark till 8- 8:30 pm .  gotta love daylight saving      finally figured out that's why i'm missing everyone again ,i'v been moved forward a hour   

That's right and I think this weekend America's been moved back an hour as well so it will get even worse.

Love daylight savings, could live with it all year round. I don't know why they keep giving and taking. They should just let it stay put. would save an awful lot of clock resetting.

[Fred]

I might have to consider moving to Australia. Would you consider a roommate?  

I've got a bunkhouse with plenty of top bunks available. The bottom ones are mine.
Bring MoparNut with you, (I have two fists)

[JB400]

geez you guys do it tough   , thoughts to you       if anything we get to much light its getting light at 4:30am and don't get dark till 8- 8:30 pm .  gotta love daylight saving      finally figured out that's why i'm missing everyone again ,i'v been moved forward a hour   

That's right and I think this weekend America's been moved back an hour as well so it will get even worse.

Love daylight savings, could live with it all year round. I don't know why they keep giving and taking. They should just let it stay put. would save an awful lot of clock resetting.

Our Daylight Savings isn't until next weekend.

[JB400]

I might have to consider moving to Australia. Would you consider a roommate?  

I've got a bunkhouse with plenty of top bunks available. The bottom ones are mine.
Bring MoparNut with you, (I have two fists)

A word of the wise, you better watch out when Fred is on the bottom

[djcarguy]

  Any one trying light therapy this winter??  here it does help some with winter blues an seasonal winter limited sun time of yr.  my girl said it helped her for few yrs along with exercise an diet.  me an her also been on doctor ordered meds from time too time.

     Hoping we all enjoyed or survived the big holiday an soon we get a new year ,,to work on an try to make a better yr for r-selfs an are loved one.  hold -on an please bee strong it can an will get better ,if we talk an ask for an get the right support an help.

    just ask an bee open to help an we can support each other an family an friends .we will all bee better off working together an bee happyer..take care an god bless us all.   iam looking forward to 2014,got some bills paid off ,kids are grow an its my time an turn,, for me an my cars to have some fun.. all my best wishes an support to ya all..

     happy holidays an to alot better NEWYEAR  20 14 AN 2015  IAM PLANNING FUN AN CAR TRAVEL.DJ DARTONA

[71 SE3834V]

I keep telling myself "The days are getting longer now."

I've often thought I suffered from this. I don't know if it's the lack of light or just the cold as I suffer from head to toe with arthritis in just about every joint in my body. I've been told I have the back of a 70 yr old, (I'm 53) no offense to any 70 yr olds out there. I've seen a pain control doc once a month for about 5 yrs or so now. Some days I get so down cause I'm having a hard time continuing to do the things I like to do like hunt, fish, work on my cars and continuing to do what I do for a living (work on power equip.). I'm currently looking for another line of work, after being self employed for 25 yrs, that wouldn't be so hard on my body.
Pressing on....

[A383Wing]

so you got one of those little 3-point Chrysler scooters Ghoste was asking about?

[hatersaurusrex]

I never got the winter blues until this year.   I had lived right on the beach in Florida since 2010, then this summer moved back to TN.  As soon as it started getting cold and dreary I started getting depressed and lethargic.   I figure that's gotta be what's causing it.

[djcarguy]

HAPPY NEW YEAR  hope an pray we all made it an are making plans for a better or great new year..
  I find it helps to plan an mark stuff on the calender ta have stuff too look forward too an remind us to fallow thru an make some fun an enjoyable things happen in tne new year..

  HAPPY NEW YEAR AN ALL MY BEST TO US ALL 2014 AN 15 I PLAN TO GET TO A FEW BIG MOPAR SHOWS AN SEE LOTS OF WING CAR..     PLAN AN ENJOY,,.   DJ OUT WEST

[djcarguy]

  i think its worth aread . global warming or ice age we all could use a little help sometimes. take care an stay warm an healthy guys an gals.  iam still working an focusing on having a better year in 2014. hit a few walls in january ,but really trying to get out of house if sun is shining in afternoon for short drive an look for old cars.  got out old 25-30 year old address -phone book an getting in touch with some old mopar contacts get to say hi an shoot the bull.  seems several of us were aware of the wrecked daytona in eugene an keeping tabs on it. not finding much bout other wrecked wing car in valley,but did get info on the guy with a wing on top his ram charger.


    well did i distract ya an get ya thinking on more interesting stuff for a few minutes.call a old buddy an relive some old car memories an storys.. have a better day an maybee a few plans for the car summer just few weeks to nascar an few months to summer car shows..  take care an stand or sit in car if sunny out,,it helps me..DJ

[stripedelete]

got out old 25-30 year old address -phone book an getting in touch with some old mopar contacts get to say hi an shoot the bull.  seems several of us were aware of the wrecked daytona in eugene an keeping tabs on it.

    well did i distract ya an get ya thinking on more interesting stuff for a few minutes.call a old buddy an relive some old car memories an storys..

Good for you!

That's all about looking out instead of in and having some laughs.  It really does help.