Fuel at home

[bull]

Since I'm several miles from the nearest gas station that carries non-ethanol gas I'm looking to get a fuel tank for home to fill with 92 octane. I suppose with the right setup I could use simple gravity feed or if not maybe something that has a hand pump. Any suggestions? I'm guessing between 10-20 gallon capacity would suffice.

[JB400]

I assume you live out in the country somewhere?  Have you checked the rules and regulations?  We don't have many, simply put because of farm country, but some areas I'm sure have some kind of regs.

[Ghoste]

Are you sure a 20 gallon tank is all you need Bull? 

[JB400]

Good point, a charger has a 19 gallon tank.  That would be one tank full.  Or are you thinking of adding a couple gallon to the vehicle until you got to town and then fill up?

[68X426]

How do you get a fill up for your at-home 20 tank? Does someone deliver in your area? At what cost?

Do you take the at-home tank to town to fill up? That sucker would weigh 130 pounds or so, how do you safely move it, fill it, and put back in place?

I know ranchers with tanks, but they are 500 gallons diesel, permanently installed, and they arrange for a delivery cycle. Much like propane. 

http://abovegroundfuelstoragetanks.com/

[bull]

I don't live in farm country, I live in hippie country where real gas is evil and Prius is the mighty messiah.

What I was thinking of was a portable tank that I could hoist into the back of my pickup, fill at one of the few non-ethanol stations around here and then hoist back onto a rack on my RV pad. It would be a sort of backup plan because once the Charger has a full tank I could just drive to one of these stations during my outings.

The nearest non-ethanol pump is 11.6 mi. away but it's at a marina so I'd have to carry a gas can 1/2 mi. down a ramp and over to the dock - not too practical. The second nearest place, and the closest with a drive-up pump, is 17.2 mi. and then there's one more that's 19.2 mi. away.

[JB400]

I think your best bet would be to get a trailer made for lawnmowers and put your tank on that.  Save a lot of work putting it in the back of a truck.

[bull]

I'll probably just run non-ethanol as much as I can and super E10 to fill the gaps. As far as I know, as long as I don't run E10 all the time there shouldn't be any long-term damage to the carb or fuel-related parts.

[Ghoste]

I have seen portable fuel tanks in about the size you mention with a hand pump on them so that option does exist.

[Cooter]

Yeah, a friend tried that "Tank at home" when fuel was lower priced. Didn't use as much as he thought he would be and filled a 55 Gal drum. Just in case you  know?

Fuel was good for varnish bout the time he got to the bottom of barrel.

[stripedelete]

When gas prices spike fuel dock/marina prices go "whack".   Having our boats at our homes gives me and my neighbors and opportunity to fuel from our docks with cheaper gas.  We have spent a few beers coming up with a quick, efficient, delivery system (without storing fuel on our property).  

Some solutions:  1) barrel and crank pump. 2) barrel and crank mounted on trailer. 3) Square tank and crank in the bed of your truck - like excavators have for their equipment.  I just got rid of one with lifting rings, which fits in well with your hoist solution.  4) Approved plastic fuel tank w/ wheels and crank.

Whether it's safety or effort, there are drawbacks to all these solutions.   Except one.  Duel fuel tanks in your truck.  But, the secondary tank is not hooked into you fuel system.   During the week, when you are passing by, or near, your fuel source, fill your second tank whether your Charger needs it or not.  When you need it you have it.  If it's going to be a big week end make sure the charger and the truck are full.  

There's a couple options for transfer.  I like the idea of a valve at the bottom of the tank with barbed nozzle/spout.  Just get your truck higher than you Charger and open the valve.  Another way would be some type of high output electric (automotive) fuel pump mounted inside the tank.  It might take a while , but,  it would be just flipping a switch.

I'm not an expert on fuel cells, so, I'm not sure what it would take to make it happen safely.  But, having seen your build thread, I bet you could get it to work.


 



   

[A383Wing]

we found a "gas caddy" at local swap meet...it has wheels and a pump to pump the fuel back onto cars or trucks that have a bad fuel pump. And the tanks are always full when you have to change the pump in fuel tank

Bryan

[Old Moparz]

If it's only a 20 gallon max that you want to store, why reinvent the wheel? Just get four of the 5 gallon gas cans & be done with it. You can rotate them so they don't gum up by pouring one into whatever vehicle, then fill it, move it to the end of the line & do the same to the next can of gas. Other than having them take up a little more room than one 20 gallon can, they will be easier to move.

[Chatt69chgr]

Back in the day, I used to help my buddy take 4 55gallon drums over to the cheap gas place 25 miles away and fill them.  We rolled them out of the back of the pickup truck onto a ramp he had made.  He had a spigot on each one with a hose.  Just back up the car and let gravity fill the car's tank.  With that much gas around, there is a definite safety issue.  He lived in the country and there were no regulations back then. 

With all this said, for just 20 gallons, I'd do what has been suggested and get 4 jerry cans and be done with it.  Gas does go bad so rotating the stock is a must.   I'd store the cans away from your house and shop for safety's sake.

[bull]

 

[Ghoste]

And try not to store them out in the sun either.

[67_Dodge_Charger]

Ranchers around where I grew up had three tanks setup in the shady side of the shop.  One gas, one diesel, one 30W oil.  They had a local distribution center fill their tanks twice a year to fill up ranch trucks and tractors.  The tanks were 300 to 400 and set on a sturdy stand.  I would only keep one tanks worth of fuel for the Charger at home and plan to fill the 5 gallon jugs when you plan to drive. Robert

[polywideblock]

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