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Is AMD (auto metal direct) producing charger bodies?

Started by chargerfan18, November 08, 2012, 03:53:36 PM

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RIDELIKEHELL

AMD POSTER BOY

1968 CHARGER R/T  http://www.youtube.com/user/ridelikehell73

Ghoste


Cooter

@ $16K for a SHELL, I can already hear "Holy sh*t!! WAY too much for what you get, there's one on EBay right now For $3500.00 that only needs Every panel AMD makes!"

Tell me again why a 2012 Charger that happens to "Appear" to be a 1969 Is any better of a deal than the guy asking big bucks for his original?



" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Dino

Technically if the chassis is original, patched or not, it's not a rebody.  But you'll have a hard time convincing anyone including yourself when you look at the finished product before primer.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

RIDELIKEHELL

AMD POSTER BOY

1968 CHARGER R/T  http://www.youtube.com/user/ridelikehell73

C928BRAN

i still have my original frame rails, roof, inner fender wells, and everything from the dash forward, i even have original doors. everything from the quarter panels back is new, except for the rear speaker panel

HPP

According to most states DMVs, it is still a '69 Charger.

Cooter

Quote from: HPP on November 09, 2012, 10:19:51 AM
According to most states DMVs, it is still a '69 Charger.

Not without swapping VIN numbers it ain't...And I believe swapping numbers onto a new replacement body might throw some red flags. We here in Va, have been through this with older 427 Engines in BRAND new Cobra bodies and trying to register them as 1966 Cobras.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

JB400

It's ok in OK, but it's still a work in progress in other states

Mike DC

  
IMHO titling the modern repro bodies does not need to pose any big issue.  If you can afford a $20,000 body shell then you can afford to buy another $500 hulk of an existing old car to legally take the identity of.

That's how they talked about the first Dynacorn Camaro shells when they came out.  They were describing the shells as just a gigantic replacement part for an existing car.  


Is this technically legal?  Probably not, but I think it should be.  I don't see anything immoral about it.  Just make a clause in the law that the title needs to identify that the body is not original from then on.  Like what many states already do with totalled/salvaged cars.  Problem solved.  The new body gets to live under vintage safety/emission rules, VIN swapping a Hemi car is still illegal (it must be legally declared on the title), and the added expense & difficulty is not very much for anyone involved.
 


charger_fan_4ever

Wasn't there a picture floating around here or moparts a couple years ago of a 69 dynacorn shell at the nats ?

Ghoste


charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: Ghoste on November 09, 2012, 03:07:33 PM
That sounds familiar.

Dunno if i'm losing it, but i'm pretty sure it was a convertible ?

JB400

Check this thread and see if that's the one.  I've seen another one the other day, but haven't found it yet :2thumbs:

Ghoste

I don't recall a Dynacorn Charger convertible shell.


Ghoste


JB400



wingcar

Quote from: HPP on November 08, 2012, 06:48:25 PM

FWIW, 1st generation Broncos have higher demand for complete bodies than Chargers.

Well, I guess that explains why they had a Broncobody on display at SEMA....never thought they were that popular..guess I was wrong  (and I almost made through the whole year without being wrong.....bummer) 
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

hatersaurusrex

Quote from: Ghoste on November 09, 2012, 06:37:33 AM
You have a rebody.

Totally don't agree.   If all you did was put outside sheetmetal and pans on it, then it's a rebuilt car that's bordering on rebody.    Sorry to those who disagree, but a rebody means 'I'm taking a totally different car and putting my driveline, interior, and 3 zillion trim pieces in it knowing good and well it's not the same car I started with.'    A heavy-rebuild is 'I've got to do major surgery and a total facelift, but this is the guts of the car I started with and will still be the same car when I'm done'.

Where is the line?  Of course it's hard to say but I don't think replacing all the outer panels means the person has a whole new car.   Hell if I were to roll my 2004 Ford pickup and in turn have to replace all the body panels and put a new bed on it, noone in their right mind would say say 'oh, now you have a 2012 Ford pickup'.  It's still the same truck.   However, If I went out and found a similar pickup and then stripped mine down and transferred all those parts to it, then yeah, I've got a whole new truck.    If I went to ford and said 'hey sell me a whole new NOS frame, cab, and bed, and I'll graft the rest on' then yeah, I've rebodied it.
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Mike DC

       
These days the only thing separating a "resto" from a "rebody" is whether the replacement panels went onto the project car's unibody already welded together or not. 


Install two dozen panels, one at a time, all cut from the same donor car = resto.   

Install two dozen panels, all at once, as a single huge chunk of the donor car = rebody.


1974dodgecharger

yup chargers are not all that popular, but when one sees one its like a unicorn!!!!!

Broncos, camaros, mustangs are way popular because those are 'feasible' to the average income guy out there. You can get a runner bronco for 8k or so, but to get a running 2nd gen charger for that much is rare and I have only seen one and I posted it awhile back for 7k complete runner!
Quote from: wingcar on November 09, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: HPP on November 08, 2012, 06:48:25 PM

FWIW, 1st generation Broncos have higher demand for complete bodies than Chargers.

Well, I guess that explains why they had a Broncobody on display at SEMA....never thought they were that popular..guess I was wrong  (and I almost made through the whole year without being wrong.....bummer) 

1974dodgecharger


then you will have some fools out there that took their vins off and put it on the rebody and claim 'ALL ORIGINAL' and demand buco bucks!!! 


Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 09, 2012, 02:46:27 PM
 
IMHO titling the modern repro bodies does not need to pose any big issue.  If you can afford a $20,000 body shell then you can afford to buy another $500 hulk of an existing old car to legally take the identity of.

That's how they talked about the first Dynacorn Camaro shells when they came out.  They were describing the shells as just a gigantic replacement part for an existing car.  


Is this technically legal?  Probably not, but I think it should be.  I don't see anything immoral about it.  Just make a clause in the law that the title needs to identify that the body is not original from then on.  Like what many states already do with totalled/salvaged cars.  Problem solved.  The new body gets to live under vintage safety/emission rules, VIN swapping a Hemi car is still illegal (it must be legally declared on the title), and the added expense & difficulty is not very much for anyone involved.
 



UH60L

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 09, 2012, 07:32:21 PM
yup chargers are not all that popular, but when one sees one its like a unicorn!!!!!

Broncos, camaros, mustangs are way popular because those are 'feasible' to the average income guy out there. You can get a runner bronco for 8k or so, but to get a running 2nd gen charger for that much is rare and I have only seen one and I posted it awhile back for 7k complete runner!
Quote from: wingcar on November 09, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: HPP on November 08, 2012, 06:48:25 PM

FWIW, 1st generation Broncos have higher demand for complete bodies than Chargers.

Well, I guess that explains why they had a Broncobody on display at SEMA....never thought they were that popular..guess I was wrong  (and I almost made through the whole year without being wrong.....bummer) 

I drove my '69 charger home from Utah for $7100.00......off of ebay......in 2004.   Now, technically it was a complete running car, but.....it had front seats out of hyundai, all the seat belts were in the trunk, the exhaust was a single pipe off the 440 that was cut off midway with no muffler, turn signals didn't work, horn didn't work, the aft tranny mount was broken, the gas tank leaked, and there was a tick in the motor.

But I drove it all the way from Salt Lake City to Salem Oregon for $7100.00.  (I don't think the seller thought it would make it all the way here, and he sounded shocked when I called him the next day and told him that, not only did we make it, but we got 22 MPG on the way!)  It actually ran surprisingly well and it was an uneventful trip all things considered.

By the way, I lost the info on the seller, so if anyone on here sold a white '69 charger to a guy in Oregon back in 2004, let me know.  That guy had a lot of muscle cars and classic cars, corvette, monte carlo, roadrunner, el camino, (and 9 more chargers according to him!!!)