Is AMD (auto metal direct) producing charger bodies?

[Patronus]

Who cares? Friggin' Sally's I say. Anyone who complains is just jealous. Probably because they had to kneel in the shit and eat it in order to have such a prize as a minty 1969 Charger. I say again, who cares?

[UH60L]

I do have to say that people will complain about your car no matter what you do sometimes.  In the 4 years before the body shop that I drove the car to shows and cruise-ins, I would print out a flyer (8/12 x11 sheet of printer paper actually) that explained that the car was originally a 318 and all the things that I had done to the car since buying it (new carb, new wheels & tires etc etc).

I did that because I couldn't afford a fancy plastic sign (plus the details changed almost as often as the car shows came along, because I was working on it a lot..).

But, instead of people being happy that I wasn't trying to hide the origins of my car, they would just continue to point out "what was wrong" with the car, as though I were trying to fool someone.  Several pointed to the piece of paper on the window and asked if the car was for sell, so I pointed to the fancy plastic sign by the car next to me and asked "is that car for sale?".  They didn't get it.....

Some of them never will.....

[green69rt]

I've been lurking in the background on this and what I keep hearing is a real concern (hidden or maybe not) that there are cars out there that are not as advertised.  So what's new.  We all know or have personal experience with car that may not be as described.  Been going on since our old cars started going up in value.  It's really a buyer beware situation and there will be people trying to take advantage of less knowledgable souls to make an extra buck.

So restoration or rebody, I'm not worried about a name, the important thing is for us in the hobby to keep ourselves honest and watch out for those who are less so.  Pretty much all we can do.

[Lennard]

I do have to say that people will complain about your car no matter what you do sometimes.  In the 4 years before the body shop that I drove the car to shows and cruise ins, I would print out a flyer (8/12 x11 sheet of printer paper actually) that explained that the cars was originally a 318 and all the things that I had done to the car since buying it (new carb, new wheels & tires etc etc).

I did that because I couldn't afford a fancy plastic sign (plus the details changed almost as often as the car shows came along, because I was working on it a lot..).

But, instead of people being happy that I wasn't trying to hide the origins of my car, they would just continue to point out "what was wrong" with the car, as though I were trying to fool someone.  Several pointed to the piece of paper on the window and asked if the car was for sell, so I pointed to the fancy plastic sign by the car next to me and asked "is that car for sale?".  They didn't get it.....
Some of them never will.....

You don't owe nobody an explanation for anything! I am going to build MY Charger the way I want it and if you like it... fine, if not... kiss my ass and go cry somewhere else. Some people are to worried about other peoples opinion.

[Brock Lee]

We are talking about a hobby that has members that get spitting mad when they see an R/T emblem on a non-R/T car at a car show. Then whine it is "depreciates" their real R/T's presence because the average person can't tell the difference.

[JB400]

We are talking about a hobby that has members that get spitting mad when they see an R/T emblem on a non-R/T car at a car show. Then whine it is "depreciates" their real R/T's presence because the average person can't tell the difference.

We're in an elite club.  Unlike the Chubby and Flub guys with their Camaros and Mustangs.  There's a million of each of them and at least half are the alleged hipo models.

[Ghoste]

It was all a little more accepted before the great musclecar price spikes and former Chevy and Ford fans jumped on the bandwagon.  It was one thing to be a Mopar lover in say, 1985 and put an RT badge on your 318 car but it became quite a different thing when people who had formerly mocked you for your car tastes began to do it and sell them as real cars to other people who formerly mocked you.  I'd argue that was the jumping off point for a lot of the "purists" that seem to take a kicking from some around here.  Having hte knowledge to tell real cars from fake wihtout the guru became a hobby unto its own.

[1974dodgecharger]

Who cares? Friggin' Sally's I say. Anyone who complains is just jealous. Probably because they had to kneel in the shit and eat it in order to have such a prize as a minty 1969 Charger. I say again, who cares?

I personally dont give a rats end in the end..how I want to spend my money is how I want to spend my money, but I wont be a fool who parts his way with money. 

[1974dodgecharger]

We are talking about a hobby that has members that get spitting mad when they see an R/T emblem on a non-R/T car at a car show. Then whine it is "depreciates" their real R/T's presence because the average person can't tell the difference.

I once saw 10 R/T signs on a 70 charger 4 on his front grill, 4 in the rear bumper, and two on each door. He said he waned stickers printed it up to on his windows and some other stickers on his doors....he was one bad mamba jamba....

[Ghoste]

Was he trying to make a statement or did he think it looked good that way?

[charger_fan_4ever]

I've been seraching and searching as i thought i even posted in the original thread with the pics from the nationals.

I'm 99.9% sure there was a pic of a new 69 body all in the black primer back 2-3 years ago. Not sure if it was dynacorn or someonelse that was putting them together. It was out in front of a tent.

[Old Moparz]

I've been seraching and searching as i thought i even posted in the original thread with the pics from the nationals.

I'm 99.9% sure there was a pic of a new 69 body all in the black primer back 2-3 years ago. Not sure if it was dynacorn or someonelse that was putting them together. It was out in front of a tent.

You're thinking of "Mars Mopars" from down south who was converting Coronet & Satellite convertibles into Chargers with AMD parts.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,46405.0.html

[charger_fan_4ever]

I've been seraching and searching as i thought i even posted in the original thread with the pics from the nationals.

I'm 99.9% sure there was a pic of a new 69 body all in the black primer back 2-3 years ago. Not sure if it was dynacorn or someonelse that was putting them together. It was out in front of a tent.

You're thinking of "Mars Mopars" from down south who was converting Coronet & Satellite convertibles into Chargers with AMD parts.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,46405.0.html

Thank you now I will be able to sleep at night this week. Thought I was losing it for awhile there.

[Ghoste]

Yeah, that I remember.  Wonder if they ever sold many?

[JB400]

I'm sure the Coronet and the RR guys are pissed about that one.  Can't please one crowd without pissing off another one.  No convertible for me.  Where would you put the rebel flag

[TheGhost]

if they did that, would it really be a 69 charger? wouldnt it be a 2000 whatever look-a-like? can you really call it a 69 charger?,and instead of our original chargers, being kind of rare, they will be all over the place, and that makes me think, it would drop the value of our cars drastically.

Cheaper Chargers?  Deal.

[Dino]

Where would you put the rebel flag

Tempting...very tempting...     

[UH60L]

I do have to say that people will complain about your car no matter what you do sometimes.  In the 4 years before the body shop that I drove the car to shows and cruise ins, I would print out a flyer (8/12 x11 sheet of printer paper actually) that explained that the cars was originally a 318 and all the things that I had done to the car since buying it (new carb, new wheels & tires etc etc).

I did that because I couldn't afford a fancy plastic sign (plus the details changed almost as often as the car shows came along, because I was working on it a lot..).

But, instead of people being happy that I wasn't trying to hide the origins of my car, they would just continue to point out "what was wrong" with the car, as though I were trying to fool someone.  Several pointed to the piece of paper on the window and asked if the car was for sell, so I pointed to the fancy plastic sign by the car next to me and asked "is that car for sale?".  They didn't get it.....
Some of them never will.....

You don't owe nobody an explanation for anything! I am going to build MY Charger the I want it and if you like it... fine, if not... kiss my ass and go cry somewhere else. Some people are to worried about other peoples opinion.

I totally agree with you.  But, when I'm standing 5 feet from my car and some idiot starts talking shit about my car to his buddy, loud enough to make sure I hear it, I'm gonna school him a little, or at least ruin his day for him.  After one guy did that, I asked him if he read the flyer.  He said no, he thought it was a "for sale" sign.  I said, does it say "for sale" anywhere?  So then he finally reads it, and realises all the BS he was talking was for nothing.  He says, oh, ok, cool man, and he and his buddy walk off.

One of those useful things I learned in the army, never assume anything.  Car show "self proclaimed experts" should remember that...

I could care less if anyone likes my car or hates it, but if someone walks up to me and starts talking trash about my car, I'm at least gonna try to straighten them out (or make them look foolish...).  It's just my nature, I don't like being accused of something I didn't do....

[Cooter]

I think THAT'S the actual real problem. Nobody gives a rats ass if YOU don't like their car done their way, it's the fact that they begin to "Talk sh*t" is where many draw the line. Forums are no exception to this. Public opinion wins every time. When it's one on one, no one cares, but add in an audience, and you begin to some who can walk away and some who have to "School 'em a little"...

Think hearing the "self proclaimed" experts talk sh*t at a car show is bad with a plain jane Charger? Try it with a General Lee. Holy sh*t!
"The real GL didn't have door handles"....(WTF?)
"The "real" GL was a '69, this ones a 1968. I know by looking at the door handles (Meanwhile, they are staring RIGHT AT A 1969!?!)...
"That show tore up ALL THE CHARGERS! That's why we can't buy one now for the prices are so high!"
"Wonder if this one has the "Special Shocks" that the show car had like John S. Said it did?"


And on and on and on....

[Mike DC]

Think hearing the "self proclaimed" experts talk sh*t at a car show is bad with a plain jane Charger? Try it with a General Lee. Holy sh*t!
"The real GL didn't have door handles"....(WTF?)
"The "real" GL was a '69, this ones a 1968. I know by looking at the door handles (Meanwhile, they are staring RIGHT AT A 1969!?!)...
"That show tore up ALL THE CHARGERS! That's why we can't buy one now for the prices are so high!"
"Wonder if this one has the "Special Shocks" that the show car had like John S. Said it did?"

Just reach into your glovebox and pull out some screen-shot photos from the TV episodes or merchandise that show the details of the car.  It shuts up the "experts" most of the time.  They may still not admit they were wrong entirely, but they will usually admit that your way was right in some of the episodes.  And being proven wrong about one thing will usually make them less insistent about other things.

As for the Dukes wrecking all the Chargers, just say this:  "Chrysler produced 170,000 Chargers during those two years.  The TV show wrecked a couple hundred.  Do the math."  


Or ignore them.  Works just as well.  

[Patronus]

I think THAT'S the actual real problem. Nobody gives a rats ass if YOU don't like their car done their way, it's the fact that they begin to "Talk sh*t" is where many draw the line. Forums are no exception to this. Public opinion wins every time. When it's one on one, no one cares, but add in an audience, and you begin to some who can walk away and some who have to "School 'em a little"...

Think hearing the "self proclaimed" experts talk sh*t at a car show is bad with a plain jane Charger? Try it with a General Lee. Holy sh*t!
"The real GL didn't have door handles"....(WTF?)
"The "real" GL was a '69, this ones a 1968. I know by looking at the door handles (Meanwhile, they are staring RIGHT AT A 1969!?!)...
"That show tore up ALL THE CHARGERS! That's why we can't buy one now for the prices are so high!"
"Wonder if this one has the "Special Shocks" that the show car had like John S. Said it did?"


And on and on and on....

Nice, dats some funny stuff. Let me ask, do you think it's worse for the purists? I mean with a resto mod with shiny paint I don't catch much of the idiots. They come by and kneel by the front clip, comb their hair, and then look around. Maybe mumble over the fender tag. I think if someone asks I will tell them it's a brand new AMD body.

[Cooter]

Nice, dats some funny stuff. Let me ask, do you think it's worse for the purists?

Well, It's certainly not limited to the General Lee "Purists", but "Purists" in General as they all kinda are acting like they are some sort of "Purist", be it factory stock, or General Lee, DMCL Charger, or any other high profile car.

For the most part, I think the real problem is Jealousy. People see YOUR car creating a fuss like a piece of candy dropped in the middle of an ant hill, and they tend to want some of that 15 mins. of fame for themselves. They will say and do just about anything to rob you of it too. I have seen it first hand, and been on the other side of the coin as well. Let's say you've put in 7 years on a rust bucket Charger doing it the hard way. You FINALLY get it to the cruise night/car show/whatever, and some douche parks RIGHT BESIDE you in his Ebay, "buy it now" Hemi Cuda he just dropped $100 large on, Steadily exclaiming how "You can't build one of these cars for that!" (As if that's supposed to make it better or something?)

All of a sudden, all your hard work goes right down the tubes as the general public are suckers for a pretty face. Your car gets looked over for some high dollar "Ringer"...Most folks get my "Speech" when they ask "So, What did you do to this car? Did you build it or?..."
MANY are surprised when I tell them I built it and when I show the pics, they are amazed. Many tend to think it's just another "Ebay Ellen"...
Sucks on both sides of the fence. But, the problem comes in when you begin to open your mouth. Sure, I'll b*tch to my CLOSE friends about it, but for be for me to start a war right in front of the guy and his car. Even in the public's eye, you will be a Jealous douche for that sh*t.

If your car has a repop body, so be it..I mean who's the one in the wrong here, the guy who spent countless hours buying $16K worth of labor on a rusty shell, or the guy that just bought a brand new, rust free, shell?
Sure, the "Purists" will look at the repop bodies as a "Rebody" which IMO, is the same thing as the way i look at "Buy it now" cars at a car show...
IMO, the repop bodies are a grewat thing just like reopop anything, but it's when they are abused to say the car is "Real" and huge money is involved, some tend to think that's their time to crush on seller's of these types of cars. As if a repop 426 Hemi hasn't been dumped into a Slant 6 Cuda body and tried to be pawned off as an "original" Hemi cuda? Sure it has, but the buyer of said Cuda HAS TO DO HIS/HER HOMEWORK.

[JB400]

You can't win either way.  But your still a winner though, you have a charger, more than likely, they don't.   The only opinion that matters, is yours.

[Brock Lee]

I stopped doing car shows with a General Lee 7 years ago just because of the a-holes it attracts. You know the "vietnam soldier" story you hear about every other old car rotting in yard? With the GL it is "My father was a stuntman/mechanic on the Dukes of Hazzard and your car is wrong because XXXX". 

[BrianShaughnessy]

As far as I know.... NO.

But I emailed Mike at AMD.   See what he says.

Hi Brian,



Sorry I was in Taipei when you sent this.



As of now, we have no plans to make any complete bodies. We may look at the situation in the future.



Thanks,

Mike

OK folks...  FYI,  if anybody ever watched Musclecar and saw the dude with the Javelin or watched the Charger build on Chop Cut Rebuild and saw the dude talking about the parts from AMD... well that's Mike....  that's who I call when I order stuff from AMD.