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Is AMD (auto metal direct) producing charger bodies?

Started by chargerfan18, November 08, 2012, 03:53:36 PM

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chargerfan18

I was visiting another forum and found a thread about dynacorns new 1964-66 mustang bodies and saw that someone had posted something about AMD producing charger bodies. Can anyone shed some more light? (quote is below)

"There are several examples of this already. Dynacorn is the most popular. AMD will be offering 1968 and 1969 Charger bodies soon."

marshallfry01

I sure hope they start making the charger bodies, but I personally don't see it happening until the economy picks up. Just my  :Twocents:
1969 Charger 383/auto
1969 Charger R/T 440/auto (waiting to be restored)
1972 Chevelle SS clone 383 sbc
1959 Chevy Apache short bed stepside
1968 Charger (glorified parts car)
Yes, I know I have too many cars. My wife reminds me daily.

JB400

I'm sure it's probably in the works, but it hasn't happened.  I'm going to say it is at least 3-5 years away if it is on thier agenda

chargerfan18

Quote from: marshallfry01 on November 08, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
I sure hope they start making the charger bodies, but I personally don't see it happening until the economy picks up. Just my  :Twocents:

So do i!! If AMD doesn't cash in then hopefully dynacorn will since they're already building a challenger. Those charger bodies will probably sell real good thanks to the dukes of hazzard fans who love build those general lee replicas :)

marshallfry01

I think it would make restorations go much smoother, but then rebodies will be all over the place. That's what I would think anyway. I haven't heard about the dynacorn camaros being reboddied, but idk how any of that works.
1969 Charger 383/auto
1969 Charger R/T 440/auto (waiting to be restored)
1972 Chevelle SS clone 383 sbc
1959 Chevy Apache short bed stepside
1968 Charger (glorified parts car)
Yes, I know I have too many cars. My wife reminds me daily.

kikgas01

I agree about people making rebodies. There would be 45,000 original Hemi cars lol.

Dino

Dynacorn also does the Camaro right?  Does anyone have any first hand feedback on how these redone bodies are received?  They will look just as good as the real deal but man does it lose a lot of the romance.  I don't think I would be as impressed to see a brand new 2nd gen as I would a restored one that started turning into a rust bucket in the mid 70's. 

Anyway, it's pretty cool that companies are doing this and for those that mean well it will give you that option to build whatever you want without ruining the real dea,l but I have to play devil's advocate and say that you are going to start seeing rare chargers that were found in some ultra insulated barn somewhere in North Dakota.... ::)
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

70 Charger RT

I was at the 2012 SEMA show last week and checked Dynacorns booth.  They are making Challengers but I never heard about Charger being in the works.

Check out http://www.dynacorn.com/catalog.html
70 Charger R/T - 440/6
07 BMW 328iS
04 GMC SLE 2500 Diesel

chargerfan18

Quote from: Dino on November 08, 2012, 05:15:12 PM
Dynacorn also does the Camaro right?  Does anyone have any first hand feedback on how these redone bodies are received?  They will look just as good as the real deal but man does it lose a lot of the romance.  I don't think I would be as impressed to see a brand new 2nd gen as I would a restored one that started turning into a rust bucket in the mid 70's. 

Anyway, it's pretty cool that companies are doing this and for those that mean well it will give you that option to build whatever you want without ruining the real dea,l but I have to play devil's advocate and say that you are going to start seeing rare chargers that were found in some ultra insulated barn somewhere in North Dakota.... ::)

I would love to build a 69 charger the way i'd like it. Plus it's better to take a new shell and turn it into a general lee jump car instead of taking an original charger and jumping a big ramp with it. Thats my personal opinion though.

Dino

Quote from: chargerfan18 on November 08, 2012, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: Dino on November 08, 2012, 05:15:12 PM
Dynacorn also does the Camaro right?  Does anyone have any first hand feedback on how these redone bodies are received?  They will look just as good as the real deal but man does it lose a lot of the romance.  I don't think I would be as impressed to see a brand new 2nd gen as I would a restored one that started turning into a rust bucket in the mid 70's. 

Anyway, it's pretty cool that companies are doing this and for those that mean well it will give you that option to build whatever you want without ruining the real dea,l but I have to play devil's advocate and say that you are going to start seeing rare chargers that were found in some ultra insulated barn somewhere in North Dakota.... ::)

I would love to build a 69 charger the way i'd like it. Plus it's better to take a new shell and turn it into a general lee jump car instead of taking an original charger and jumping a big ramp with it. Thats my personal opinion :)

And I agree with that.  You would be one of the people that means well apparently.   :icon_smile_big:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

C928BRAN

if they did that, would it really be a 69 charger? wouldnt it be a 2000 whatever look-a-like? can you really call it a 69 charger?,and instead of our original chargers, being kind of rare, they will be all over the place, and that makes me think, it would drop the value of our cars drastically. :Twocents:

Daytona R/T SE

If they did make them, how many of you would be willing to fork over $15,000 -$20,000 for a bare shell with no VIN? 

Dino

I would probably have to be registered as a new car but that would mean you would have to register and insure it as a modern car as well.  I don't think there is any way to call it a 69.

Value wise it can go either way.  Original Chargers would still cost less than having to build one from scratch with a Dynacorn body.  There is also the romance factor which is huge in the classic car world.  As fun as it would be to drive a modern car that looks exactly like the real deal, it's still isn't the real deal.  I don't think you could warm me over to go that route.  Besides, can you imagine hunting down all the parts to complete it?

Those that only care what the outside looks like, stock wise, would have a somewhat easier time as they can bolt in an interior from something else.  That 70 Charger, Punishment comes to mind.  A dynacorn body would be absolutely perfect for a build like that.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

1974dodgecharger

yup you are correct at least in AZ it is. I know someone who did the rebodie on a mustang complete body kit by dynacor and he built it up himself and had to register it with a new car status not a old car status.

Then again who is to know if its a rebody? They start to take VINs off their old cars and put on a rebody and viola...
Quote from: Dino on November 08, 2012, 05:51:18 PM
I would probably have to be registered as a new car but that would mean you would have to register and insure it as a modern car as well.  I don't think there is any way to call it a 69.

Value wise it can go either way.  Original Chargers would still cost less than having to build one from scratch with a Dynacorn body.  There is also the romance factor which is huge in the classic car world.  As fun as it would be to drive a modern car that looks exactly like the real deal, it's still isn't the real deal.  I don't think you could warm me over to go that route.  Besides, can you imagine hunting down all the parts to complete it?

Those that only care what the outside looks like, stock wise, would have a somewhat easier time as they can bolt in an interior from something else.  That 70 Charger, Punishment comes to mind.  A dynacorn body would be absolutely perfect for a build like that.

BrianShaughnessy

As far as I know.... NO.

But I emailed Mike at AMD.   See what he says.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

HPP

All the concerns about vins, titling, registering, rebodies, etc have all been address with the Camaro and Mustang versions already out there. Dealing with Chargers would be no different. I'd also say that having all these new versions of Camaros and Mustangs has done little to nothing to impact the value of the orginals, so thinking Chargers would be impacted differently is also false.

However, AMD and Dynacorn look at this not just from a passionate point of view as car lovers, but from a practical finacial position and also with a legal licensing reference. Unfortunately, Chargers are not high enough up the financial priority list for them to step out on that ledge to take on the legal aspects. Perhaps they should have done the Charger instead of the Challenger, but, it hasn't happened that way and the Challenger body has been so severely slammed by so many, I'd be suprised if they have even sold enough to recoup the initial investment.

FWIW, 1st generation Broncos have higher demand for complete bodies than Chargers.

chargerfan18

I must say that some of the dynacorn based builds are really nice. Then again i am a big fan of the pro touring & restomod trend in the classic car community.

Mopar Nut

That would be good news for all of the 68 and 70 Charger owners. They could buy the best muscle car produced, a 69 Charger. :nana:
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

Mike DC

                               
I don't see how the existence of reproduction body shells would do anything to increase fraudulent Hemi cars.  

You can commit just as much fraud with a decent used 318 shell right now, and for a lot less money than a repro shell would cost.  How does the new shell option make it any easier or more likely to happen?  Those shells would be damn near $20,000 apiece.  

And I'm sure it would still be possible to pick out a new one from an original one if you know these cars well enough.  They can't make even the simplest reproduction parts without some detail turning out different from the originals.  There's no way in hell a modern reproduction company is gonna make an entire body shell without some visible differences from the original.  Not if you know where to look.





C928BRAN

if you think about it, they pretty much make every panel to a 69 charger, its just a matter of putting it together, then you have the shell, but if you priced all the individual parts to do that, you could probably buy a good used original charger. :Twocents:

Brock Lee

There are still a number of pieces that join these things together they do not make yet. Over time they will fill in the gaps and offer a full body.

Lee A

I have a question if i had my real 69 Charger restored with amd parts i need alot i mean alot i got put in a new trunk floor,front floor,roof skin,both doors, both fenders,both quarters,hood,trunk lid,front valance,both back panel for tail lights and reverse lights, rocker panels in and out would my car be considered a new 2012 car or still a 69 after its done though it will never rust again in my life time or my little guys
1968 Dodge Charger 440
1969 Dodge Charger 383

JB400

Ghoste will tell you you have a new charger or a rebody.  I say you still have a rebuilt 69.  I think that falls into your own opinion of what you have.  But, like I said, I prefer the term rebuilt.

tan top

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 09, 2012, 03:01:32 AM
Ghoste will tell you you have a new charger or a rebody.  I say you still have a rebuilt 69.  I think that falls into your own opinion of what you have.  But, like I said, I prefer the term rebuilt.


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  it will always be a re-body  :yesnod: :Twocents:
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