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What was the worst muscle car produced?

Started by 74Rallye, October 22, 2012, 06:20:08 PM

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74Rallye

October 22, 2012, 06:20:08 PM
OK, This is a ripoff of "the best muscle car" thread, but it could get interesting...

I would say the mid 70s Mustang, (remember the dressed up Pintos), except for the fact that I owned a Gremlin X. Worst handling car I ever owned! That car would swap ends just hitting a pot hole. Don't even ask about rain! 

TheGhost

#1
October 22, 2012, 06:43:16 PM
If we are going by the definition of Muscle car, I'd have to say the last of the GTOs in the mid 70s, 75 I think it was.  Nothing more than a Ventura wearing lipstick.
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#2
October 22, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
Anything with four doors. ::)



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#3
October 22, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
What about the 4cyl Ford Mustang II?   :eek2:
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#4
October 22, 2012, 08:10:24 PM
I would say the 70's amc matador. at least they are the ugliest.

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#6
October 22, 2012, 08:17:45 PM
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#7
October 22, 2012, 08:21:09 PM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on October 22, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
What about the 4cyl Ford Mustang II?   :eek2:

That was one of the mid '70s ones the OP was mentioning.

Firstly, I'll say that I don't think they intended it be a "muscle car".  Secodly, my wife had one of those when I married her, and other than being very under-powered, it was actually kinda fun to drive, very "go-cart" feeling.

The later ones (starting in 1975) had better engine options and there was even a Cobra II that was kinda decent.

At least it was a two door........    :icon_smile_cool:

DC_1

#8
October 22, 2012, 08:33:13 PM


I don't know that it's the worst muscle car because of the 413 power plant but it sure is up there on the ugly scale.........it's so ugly it's cool!!

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#9
October 22, 2012, 09:22:02 PM
The 'Ventura GTO' is actually a decent looking car, not nearly the worst thing GM ever did.   I think the late 70's Chevelle is one of the goofiest looking 'muscle cars' ever.   And if Camaros count, the ugliest one was also that late '70's incarnation too.   Bleh.
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#10
October 22, 2012, 09:38:07 PM
I'm a practical kind of guy and looks are secondary to function. I would have to elect the Chevrolet musclecars because of their fragile drivetrains. 9 inch brakes, diaphraghm clutches, weak 4 speeds, jumping jack rear suspensions and second rate rear ends. You could pound on a Mopar all day and they wouldn't break, try that with a Chevrolet and they would start wheelhopping and pretty soon break something. Fords would blow up but they wouldn't break the transmission or rearend so they were right between Mopars and Chevies in the toughness dept.

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bull

#11
October 22, 2012, 09:41:50 PM
Not sure if all these fit into the "muscle car" category but here's some of my least favorite:
Vega
El Camino
Fury
Gremlin
Rambler
Nova
Maverick
70-78 Mustang

Not too big on Darts and Dusters either... sorry.

JB400

#12
October 22, 2012, 10:35:06 PM
I agree with the late 70's Camaro. Camaro had cheesy graphics and no performance.  I'll also add the Pontiac Trans Am Turbo.  Cool looks no umph

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#13
October 22, 2012, 10:58:06 PM

Cooter

#14
October 22, 2012, 11:00:43 PM
Maverick? One here with 302 and 4-speed. Hauls ass.
Must II? Had one in High school. 302 4-speed. Hauled ass.


Now, you wanna talk about Late seventies Corvettes with their anemic 130 HP 350 "Vette" Motors, with automatics....
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#15
October 22, 2012, 11:08:52 PM
Quote from: kikgas01 on October 22, 2012, 10:58:06 PM

I don't know what your complaining about, this car is classy,

Brock Lee

#16
October 23, 2012, 02:48:01 AM
70's Mopar A bodies.

1974dodgecharger

#17
October 23, 2012, 03:09:08 AM
the 68 to 70 chargers were the worst muscle car produced in general by dodge/chrysler if anyone knows the history you will know that they didnt know what to do to keep up with the mustang and camaro so they kept redesigning the front face trying to get the right formula to win races.  They got to desperate that they brought a car called, 'dodge daytona' in 69 and tried to rob folks of winnings from ford and chevy, but no luck so they discontinued that model after one year on the race track.

They found the winning formula in the 80s shelby turbo with hits smaller engine, turbo, and quick off the line it won the hearts of millions in the 80s and won races, finally, and hitting the 0-60 mark in 12secs something that dodge/chrysler could not accomplish in the early models where hitting 17 secs was happy to them......

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#18
October 23, 2012, 03:53:58 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 23, 2012, 03:09:08 AM
the 68 to 70 chargers were the worst muscle car produced in general by dodge/chrysler if anyone knows the history you will know that they didnt know what to do to keep up with the mustang and camaro so they kept redesigning the front face trying to get the right formula to win races.  They got to desperate that they brought a car called, 'dodge daytona' in 69 and tried to rob folks of winnings from ford and chevy, but no luck so they discontinued that model after one year on the race track.

They found the winning formula in the 80s shelby turbo with hits smaller engine, turbo, and quick off the line it won the hearts of millions in the 80s and won races, finally, and hitting the 0-60 mark in 12secs something that dodge/chrysler could not accomplish in the early models where hitting 17 secs was happy to them......
I'm ready for the hate mail on this one.  For the record, I disagree. :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:

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#19
October 23, 2012, 04:04:17 AM
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#20
October 23, 2012, 05:29:47 AM
I don't know if I cold pick a worst but I did always wonder about things like 67 Camaros with monoleaf rear suspension or 389 GTO backed with a 2 speed automatic and braked with 9 inch drums.

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#21
October 23, 2012, 07:32:31 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 23, 2012, 03:09:08 AM
the 68 to 70 chargers were the worst muscle car produced in general by dodge/chrysler if anyone knows the history you will know that they didnt know what to do to keep up with the mustang and camaro so they kept redesigning the front face trying to get the right formula to win races.  They got to desperate that they brought a car called, 'dodge daytona' in 69 and tried to rob folks of winnings from ford and chevy, but no luck so they discontinued that model after one year on the race track.

They found the winning formula in the 80s shelby turbo with hits smaller engine, turbo, and quick off the line it won the hearts of millions in the 80s and won races, finally, and hitting the 0-60 mark in 12secs something that dodge/chrysler could not accomplish in the early models where hitting 17 secs was happy to them......

Based on your theory I have a couple of questions for you. Why are the 2nd gen chargers bringing so much money today? If the grilles are so bad, why are they bringing around $1,000 complete?(you said no one liked grilles in my thread) Dodge always sold fewer cars than Ford and Generic motors. IT had nothing to do with the body style, trust me.

Ghoste

#22
October 23, 2012, 07:49:52 AM
He's kidding.

cdr

#23
October 23, 2012, 08:46:17 AM
1981 turbo t/a was really terrible,but i think the worst was 1981 vett,had one brand new,took it to the track & it ran mid 16s,,,it drove like crap & fell apart,big giant plastic POS
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#24
October 23, 2012, 09:28:54 AM
Volare's make me natious. Especially the kit cars with bushwhacker flares.
71-3 mustangs are pretty awful too.

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#25
October 23, 2012, 09:53:59 AM
1980 Z-28

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#26
October 23, 2012, 10:30:19 AM
For me in the "muscle car" years -  1964-1972 I would have to say nothing strikes me as more ugly than the 1970-1972 Mercury Cyclone...   something about the grille just makes me want to never own one.
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#27
October 23, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
Muscle: Mid
Pony: Small

now wondering, the question is about the worst, not the ugliest... why ppl answer the ugliest ?
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#28
October 23, 2012, 11:03:06 AM
69 Charger with a six banger.  Doesn't get any worse than that.
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#29
October 23, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: Dino on October 23, 2012, 11:03:06 AM
69 Charger with a six banger.  Doesn't get any worse than that.

69 grill & six banger i will agree,but both are fixable  :yesnod: :icon_smile_big: :nana: :smilielol: :smilielol:
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#30
October 23, 2012, 11:13:44 AM
Quote from: cdr on October 23, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: Dino on October 23, 2012, 11:03:06 AM
69 Charger with a six banger.  Doesn't get any worse than that.

69 grill & six banger i will agree,but both are fixable  :yesnod: :icon_smile_big: :nana: :smilielol: :smilielol:

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#31
October 23, 2012, 11:41:32 AM
A "Pony" car can certainly be a musclecar. Musclecar= Small/mid/large body with the biggest damn engine offered by a perticular manufacturer.

"Worst" musclecar can mean a bunch of different things to different people. Like ugly, weak, poorly built,etc...
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#32
October 24, 2012, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on October 23, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
Muscle: Mid
Pony: Small

now wondering, the question is about the worst, not the ugliest... why ppl answer the ugliest ?

Because looks are always part of the equation. It may be a subjective category but it's still a consideration.

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#33
October 24, 2012, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: cdr on October 23, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: Dino on October 23, 2012, 11:03:06 AM
69 Charger with a six banger.  Doesn't get any worse than that.

69 grill & six banger i will agree,but both are fixable  :yesnod: :icon_smile_big: :nana: :smilielol: :smilielol:

That's why we're seeing 68 grills on 69 chargers.  There's an easy fix right there!  :icon_smile_big:


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#34
October 24, 2012, 11:59:16 PM
Quote from: TheGhost on October 22, 2012, 06:43:16 PM
If we are going by the definition of Muscle car, I'd have to say the last of the GTOs in the mid 70s, 75 I think it was.  Nothing more than a Ventura wearing lipstick.

I agree here. Pontiac still had the Trans Am though.
Ford? The Mustang didn't qualify since it was 4 cyl and V6 for a few years.
AMC? The last of the Javelins had really funky styling.
Buick, Olds.... Nothing there. Chevy had the Camaro and the Vette. They were slow but they handled well.
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