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Started by Charger454, October 14, 2012, 09:40:03 PM

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Charger454

It doesn't matter what decade your discussing, the overall scheme of things rips one another off. But it's interesting how the different countries still remained their own character. Simple yes, manufacturers catered to the interests of the local clientel. Nonetheless, interesting.

Even seen here in the first 30seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBSd2QvY7wQ&list=FLTq3Bl1SqxqvquQHJRog_kw&index=41&feature=plpp_video

Oh, and the 67-68 GTO's possibly inspiring the 68-70 recessed rear window.
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JB400

I have no idea what your saying, but as said before, 67 and 68 GTO's do not under any circumstances look the same.  I think you need to look at the 66 GTO, it's the same car as a 67 except for minor diffs. 68 GTO looks like a Chevelle and it was that styling that led to the 71 mopar bodystyle

Lennard


hatersaurusrex

The recessed window on the 2nd gens actually was a compromise.  One side wanted a fastback, but it was too expensive to produce the package tray, so they trade off and did the sail panels.   The story about it is on allpar somewhere.   I could care less if

And it's pretty obvious the Cuda/Challenger were a copy.  In fact, the 'Pony Car' forumla basically dictated that styling.   Mustangs and Camaros had already been using it for 4 or 5 years before the e-body was designed.
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Patronus

Impala aint got nothin' on that Charger.  :icon_smile_blackeye:
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lukedukem

Quote from: Patronus on October 14, 2012, 11:56:23 PM
Impala aint got nothin' on that Charger.  :icon_smile_blackeye:
Curves and I great smile

yeah, she got a big bottom
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1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
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Patronus

The more I look at them - the Chrysler boys just did it right.  :coolgleamA:
Honestly, neither one of those Chevys does anything that the lines of a Mopar do to me.
I would rather walk.
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JB400

Sounds like we're comparing apples to basketballs to me.

charger01

Quote from: Charger454 on October 14, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
It doesn't matter what decade your discussing, the overall scheme of things rips one another off. But it's interesting how the different countries still remained their own character. Simple yes, manufacturers catered to the interests of the local clientel. Nonetheless, interesting.

Even seen here in the first 30seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBSd2QvY7wQ&list=FLTq3Bl1SqxqvquQHJRog_kw&index=41&feature=plpp_video

Oh, and the 67-68 GTO's possibly inspiring the 68-70 recessed rear window.

I also believe the mustang inspired the camaro.  It was the first pony car right?  Not sure where all this is going though.

68X426

They all have 4 wheels.  :slap:



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JB400

Barracuda came out first.  Mustang was in the limelight.  That's why we have pony cars instead of fishy cars.

Fred

As I said (in the thread that's gone missing)
Chevy had an idea.................. Dodge had a vision.


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

JB400

Quote from: Fred on October 15, 2012, 01:26:36 AM
As I said (in the thread that's gone missing)
Chevy had an idea.................. Dodge had a vision.
And Ford followed suit

Fred

Linen or wool blend?


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Fred

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 15, 2012, 12:59:47 AM
Barracuda came out first.  Mustang was in the limelight.  That's why we have pony cars instead of fishy cars.

There's something very fishy about that.  I smell a rat.


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

JB400

Quote from: Fred on October 15, 2012, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 15, 2012, 12:59:47 AM
Barracuda came out first.  Mustang was in the limelight.  That's why we have pony cars instead of fishy cars.

There's something very fishy about that.  I smell a rat.
What did you do, put a bb Chevy under the hood of your charger?

Fred

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 15, 2012, 01:46:12 AM
Quote from: Fred on October 15, 2012, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 15, 2012, 12:59:47 AM
Barracuda came out first.  Mustang was in the limelight.  That's why we have pony cars instead of fishy cars.

There's something very fishy about that.  I smell a rat.
What did you do, put a bb Chevy under the hood of your charger?

No, this rat's running for election.  He   goes by the name of "other"


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Charger454

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 14, 2012, 11:27:15 PM
67 and 68 GTO's do not under any circumstances look the same.  

68 GTO looks like a Chevelle and it was that styling that led to the 71 mopar bodystyle

Yeah sorry, brain fart. And your also right about the 71 Charger styling compared to the 68 GM stuff. That 1/4 window is exactly like it. But...so is a Gremlin!

The discussion is about the cars overall shape, or peices here and there. I'm not claiming that the entire Impala looks like a Charger. It's overall design from the side bares a similarity. And the window shape is spot on. Theres elements from GM in Mopar. Likewise, that's probably a two-way street.  

Yeah, I'm primarily a GM guy. But I'm still not bias. Afterall, just look at the contents of my garage gentleman. You'll quickly see I got much love for BOTH.  :cheers:
I have no "sense of entitlement". I only deserve what I've got off my ass to earn!

69finder

He's right, they all are the same, and I would like to add another car to make the point.



See, same!  Good observations OP!   :2thumbs:

Charger454

Quote from: 69finder on October 15, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
He's right, they all are the same, and I would like to add another car to make the point.



See, same!  Good observations OP!   :2thumbs:

The only observation here is that either your just being disrespectful or you TOTALLY didn't comprehend what the thread is about.

Also, you may want to thank the OP for having already stated that different countries had completely different designs...as stated in the very FIRST post. Here it is now:

"But it's interesting how the different countries still remained their own character. Simple yes, manufacturers catered to the interests of the local clientel."

Good observation!  :2thumbs:

I have no "sense of entitlement". I only deserve what I've got off my ass to earn!

skip68


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skip68

I understand what you're saying Charger454.   I think it's just the look of the times.  Just like when the cars had tail fins.   :yesnod:
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Charger454

Quote from: skip68 on October 15, 2012, 09:59:53 AM
I understand what you're saying Charger454.   I think it's just the look of the times.  Just like when the cars had tail fins.   :yesnod:

EXACTLY! I'm just intrigued with the history of how the manufacturers borrowed original ideas and twisted them into their own. I know the same is seen in music. God knows I've ripped off Pantera countless times when writing a song! LOL

Check this out. Was just reading about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_bottle_styling

I'd like to hand a welder and a bunch of metal to a guy on a deserted island that's never seen a car and tell him to make one...just to see what he designs. LOL

PS: Sorry for the big words. Sometimes my kompreehension is better than my spelling.
I have no "sense of entitlement". I only deserve what I've got off my ass to earn!

skip68

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1974dodgecharger

Believe it or not I do see alot of the resemblance if you guys dont you must be blind.....

4 wheels-check
windows-check
headlights-check
transmission of some sorts-check
engine of some sorts-check
trunk-check
hood-check
guages inside vehicle-check
steering wheel-check
a body covering all this stuff-check

Yup they are all the same to me........

Back N Black

Mopar has  always been riding the coat tails of Chevy and Ford.  :naughty: :stirthepot:

stripedelete

What you're pointing out is correct, but, it is not a new revelation.  Chrysler generally followed General Motors styling lead from the late 40's on up.
Second generation Charges and the 66 GTO are a great comparison.   However, in that case, Chrysler got it right.    

Charger454

Quote from: stripedelete on October 15, 2012, 10:34:57 AM
What you're pointing out is correct, but, it is not a new revelation.  Chrysler generally followed General Motors styling lead from the late 40's on up.
Second generation Charges and the 66 GTO are a great comparison.   However, in that case, Chrysler got it right.    

You know, I've been a car-guy my entire life and ironically...I never really paid attention, or caught on to it untill a few years ago. LOL I was at an ice cream joint sitting down eating an icecream cone and looked back at my 65 Impala and I seen that 1/4 window and it hit me like a ton of bricks! LOL Ever since then, I've been more and more intrigued with playing "Where's Waldo" by seeing what cars bare what resemblence. I mean, stuff like the front bumper and concealed headlamps of The Judge is yet another styling cue that is embedded into the 71-72 Charger's. I know some guys here are getting all pissed off over me bringing it up, but it is what it is. Dare I say they might be GM fans in denial! LOL  :o
I have no "sense of entitlement". I only deserve what I've got off my ass to earn!

TheGhost

Quote from: stripedelete on October 15, 2012, 10:34:57 AM
What you're pointing out is correct, but, it is not a new revelation.  Chrysler generally followed General Motors styling lead from the late 40's on up.
Second generation Charges and the 66 GTO are a great comparison.   However, in that case, Chrysler got it right.    

Dunno about that.  I feel they are about equal.  The 66 GTO is the best looking car GM has ever made (and ever will, most likely).
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

lukedukem

Quote from: Charger454 on October 15, 2012, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: stripedelete on October 15, 2012, 10:34:57 AM
What you're pointing out is correct, but, it is not a new revelation.  Chrysler generally followed General Motors styling lead from the late 40's on up.
Second generation Charges and the 66 GTO are a great comparison.   However, in that case, Chrysler got it right.    

You know, I've been a car-guy my entire life and ironically...I never really paid attention, or caught on to it untill a few years ago. LOL I was at an ice cream joint sitting down eating an icecream cone and looked back at my 65 Impala and I seen that 1/4 window and it hit me like a ton of bricks! LOL Ever since then, I've been more and more intrigued with playing "Where's Waldo" by seeing what cars bare what resemblence. I mean, stuff like the front bumper and concealed headlamps of The Judge is yet another styling cue that is embedded into the 71-72 Charger's. I know some guys here are getting all pissed off over me bringing it up, but it is what it is. Dare I say they might be GM fans in denial! LOL  :o

heck, i never noticed till this thread really. but now i'll be looking too. are you restoring that charger. is so start a restore thread
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1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
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stripedelete

Quote from: Charger454 on October 15, 2012, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: stripedelete on October 15, 2012, 10:34:57 AM
What you're pointing out is correct, but, it is not a new revelation.  Chrysler generally followed General Motors styling lead from the late 40's on up.
Second generation Charges and the 66 GTO are a great comparison.   However, in that case, Chrysler got it right.    

You know, I've been a car-guy my entire life and ironically...I never really paid attention, or caught on to it untill a few years ago. LOL I was at an ice cream joint sitting down eating an icecream cone and looked back at my 65 Impala and I seen that 1/4 window and it hit me like a ton of bricks! LOL Ever since then, I've been more and more intrigued with playing "Where's Waldo" by seeing what cars bare what resemblence. I mean, stuff like the front bumper and concealed headlamps of The Judge is yet another styling cue that is embedded into the 71-72 Charger's. I know some guys here are getting all pissed off over me bringing it up, but it is what it is. Dare I say they might be GM fans in denial! LOL  :o

Ya, for a car guy it's interesting history.  But, for a Chrysler guy,,,, it's like finding out mother was the village whore, father was a traveling salesman, and you were adopted. :icon_smile_big:

69finder

Quote from: Charger454 on October 15, 2012, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: 69finder on October 15, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
He's right, they all are the same, and I would like to add another car to make the point.



See, same!  Good observations OP!   :2thumbs:

The only observation here is that either your just being disrespectful or you TOTALLY didn't comprehend what the thread is about.

Also, you may want to thank the OP for having already stated that different countries had completely different designs...as stated in the very FIRST post. Here it is now:

"But it's interesting how the different countries still remained their own character. Simple yes, manufacturers catered to the interests of the local clientel."

Good observation!  :2thumbs:



You are referring to yourself in the third person and congratulation yourself at the same time.  YOU are the OP.   :rofl: 

Be groovy man.

Charger454

Yeah Luke I'm restoring it. I love the 73 Chargers the best. For me personally, if done right, they look like something the Devil himself would drive! Evil! Lol

I understand what the other guy means by a whore for a mom and a traveling daddy, but I'm sorry it all came off negatively. Not my intent. How could I be here to troll and hate on the Chargers when I own one myself? Lol I suppose my approach was wrong
I have no "sense of entitlement". I only deserve what I've got off my ass to earn!