UPDATED- NEW photos of the K&K Daytona at Talladega running 201 mph

[Ghoste]

Otherwise just call it IROC.

[JB400]

Otherwise just call it IROC.

Yes, I know, UROC

[Aero426]

 
In 1960 they were heavily modified production cars.  

By 1970 they were more like custom-built cars made from a pile of stock production parts.  The fact that the unibodes arrived from the factory already spot-welded together was becoming a drawback as much as a benefit.  

Here's a mid-70's shot of the Petty shop showing the modern way of race car building from the platform up.     Note the short-lived '75 Charger which was tested.   

[odcics2]

A far cry from the shops of today.   

[Ghoste]

Or the ones a decade and a bit before that.

[charger490]

here is one

[odcics2]

I'm one that is more in favor of at least running a stock body.  The only addition should be a rear spoiler and a splitter.  Save the decals for the numbers, sponsors and the lights. I don't care what is underneath the skin:Twocents:

and let them all run their  own destinct  drive trains and actually let fans be loyal to there brands 

[odcics2]

here is one

Not really - that's the car that resides at the Talladega Museum.   If you look closely at the photos at the beginning you can see many differences in the body.  The car at the museum appears to be Nascar legal!!! 

[Aero426]

The museum car would be the derelict sitting outside the K & K shop under cover. 

[odcics2]

The K&K ran two four barrel carbs in November, 1970 at the 201 run.

These photos speak for themselves...   See the 2-4 bbl breather under the hood?   

[Aero426]

The K&K ran two four barrel carbs in November, 1970 at the 201 run.

These photos speak for themselves...   See the 2-4 bbl breather under the hood?   

Translation:  The K & K was not legal when it set the record.   

[Mike DC]

At least half the GN cars running in that era weren't legal in some form.  Just a matter of degree.

[Ghoste]

Did they not check them for at least some legality before declaring a record?

[Mike DC]

         
I think it was just impressive that anyone was running 200mph laps on a circle/oval racecourse at all.  The highest ranks of European open-wheel racing wasn't even near that fast at the time.  Going 200mph on land had been Bonneville territory up until then.


The K&K car in those shots wasn't NASCAR legal in the body either.  Check the missing roof gutters/etc and the smoothed A-pillar.

[Aero426]

At least half the GN cars running in that era weren't legal in some form.  Just a matter of degree.

By any definition, an extra carburetor is something of a whopper.

[Aero426]

Did they not check them for at least some legality before declaring a record?

It was a closed course speed record.   Not for any sanctioning body.     Show up, go fast.

Besides, it was too damn cold that day to check anything.     I am surprised they even got the car started.   

[Ghoste]

Ah understood.  What was the temp btw?

[Aero426]

Ah understood.  What was the temp btw?

I think it was quoted as being 18 degrees that morning.   Not sure what it was at the time they ran.

[odcics2]

States "near freezing" temps in the article.   34 maybe??   

Yeah, it would be very difficult to get it started with one carb, let alone a pair!!   

[Aero426]

Cold blooded under the best of circumstances.   They are tough to start below 50 degrees.   

[tan top]

  more good pictures  , thanks for sharing  
  not wanting to hijack this thread ,  been looking for that picture that was posted on here a while back , with think it was  three # 71 daytonas lined up  out side K& Ks shop  , wonder what happened to the other Daytona chassis ?

[Aero426]

If you start working backwards,  one car remains, which is the one that did the promo work for K & K in 1971-72, then put out back and later restored.  

The Bonneville car (based on a story told by someone who saw it in sad shape) rusted away FAST after the trip to the salt.    

Another short track car went to the Louisville area around 1971.

That leaves two cars.    It is likely a couple of cars got rebodied and reworked for 1971 and the limited schedule the team ran from there on out.    

The photo also assumes  there are no other cars in the shop.   This is the second K & K shop which was rented from the Nichels & Goldsmith Safety Center  (The other K & K shop was a short distance away near Harry Hyde's home.)    I don't think any other team had as many cars in their inventory as K & K.     Harry Lee Hyde said they had "four or five cars,  but not all were ready to run at the same time".

[odcics2]

At least half the GN cars running in that era weren't legal in some form.  Just a matter of degree.

By any definition, an extra carburetor is something of a whopper.

The article in the paper noted the car was NASCAR legal, except for side glass and no restrictor plate on the carb. 
It was a Nascar sanctioned run, using their timing equipment. 

[odcics2]

If you start working backwards,  one car remains, which is the one that did the promo work for K & K in 1971-72, then put out back and later restored.  

The Bonneville car (based on a story told by someone who saw it in sad shape) rusted away FAST after the trip to the salt.    

Another short track car went to the Louisville area around 1971.

That leaves two cars.    It is likely a couple of cars got rebodied and reworked for 1971 and the limited schedule the team ran from there on out.    

The photo also assumes  there are no other cars in the shop.   This is the second K & K shop which was rented from the Nichels & Goldsmith Safety Center  (The other K & K shop was a short distance away near Harry Hyde's home.)    I don't think any other team had as many cars in their inventory as K & K.     Harry Lee Hyde said they had "four or five cars,  but not all were ready to run at the same time".

In the photo the 201 car is not present. Also, the 201 car is the same one that ran Bonneville the following September. The rear window was flushed out for that run. The rest of the body mods remained the same. ("A" Pillars, no drip rails, 'lower' fender scoops)
If you look at the truck on the left, it's the one that was at the 201 run!!  

It says: "Grand National Champion" above the word DODGE.
That dates the photo to after the 1970 season, at least.

[odcics2]

dual holley breather photos.