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PGClassic slotted tips didn't hold the red paint either.What's next, POWDERCOAT?

Started by Nacho-RT74, October 07, 2012, 09:31:16 AM

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Nacho-RT74

I made a roadtrip on an interstate highway with my new slotted tips, after get one stolen. Going down from my city ( I live at 900-1000 meters height city ) to a 500 meters city the red paint hold the heat and exhaust fumes mixture. I didn't need to give a lot of gas to the car though.

But now, going up back to my city for 1 hour, 80 MPH average when I had to give more gas to beat the height difference and of course, produce more heat and fumes, the paint didn't hold. Now I have a nice BURNT finish  :flame: :'(

what to use now ?

I have heard powdercoating  :shruggy:
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Mopar Nut

Have you tried the ones from Accurate Exhaust or TTi, I heard they were powdercoated.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

Ghoste

Powdercoating might be your best bet Nacho, it does seem more durable than paint.

resq302

Is it possible that they did not prep the area right prior to painting?  I would imagine that something as far back as the tail pipe tip should be able to stand up to some kind of high temp heat.  Lets face it, engine paint does as well as the VHT nu cast exhaust manifold paint!
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Nacho-RT74

it is peeling off like it was a metallic skin over the pipe, liuke a bad rechroming job.

beside the uggly burnt look, of course

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/6487/img1354vy.jpg

the "grayshy" areas inside the slots is the red finish peeling off

dunno why, driver side doesn't look THAAAAAAT bad... ( you can see it on pic )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

E5 Charger

That sucks. It ticks me off that PG Classic doesn't make better parts. They are in Canada, so shipping is so much better for me. Do they come apart to paint them?

Nacho-RT74

they are China parts and I bet any seller around including BEA will sell you the same pieces. keep out from the ones jiema8 sells on ebay which are even worst ( those were the first ones I got and one of them was stolen )

to come appart need to cut the welding seams ( 3 on each one )... not really hard to do. Then assembly back and welding at same places, then polish the welds
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste

It might be a simple procedure but it sure sucks that you have to go through that with brand new parts.  :flame:

Nacho-RT74

DEFINITELLY!!!! thats something you don't expect when paid $300 for something
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

1973rallye

Hate to say it. Although $300 is a lot of cash it is still no promise of quality.  Mine were more from TTI, but with my first summer complete they still look like new.  In for a penny in for a pound in this hobby.
1973 Rallye 440 4 speed
2016 Challenger r/t Shaker

RJS

I had an old set of tips on one of my cars and they had nice chrome but the paint was tired.
I resprayed the red with engine enamel and then used paint thinner to remove red from the chrome and all was good to go...
Ron

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste

You're the only one getting the tips overheated.  Thats some serious abuse Nacho.  ;)

Nacho-RT74

well is my driver, and I make road trips with it.... thanks for the gas prices ( the only thing cheap down here )

Is more expensive a Coke can than fill my tank
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste


gschmidt211

I called a powder coater to do my tips and they told me that powder coating is not the way to go with the tips.  They told me to find a ceramic coating facility to do the work.
1972 Charger Rallye
2014 Ram Outdoorsman 3.6L 4x2
1978 D100 Utiline Standard Cab

Ghoste

Did they say what it was about the powdercoat that made it a poor choice?

gschmidt211

I do believe it was because of the heat.  Ceramic coating holds up much better to the heat over powder coating.
1972 Charger Rallye
2014 Ram Outdoorsman 3.6L 4x2
1978 D100 Utiline Standard Cab

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

JB400


Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste

And I hate to think what it would cost to ship them to the US and then back again.  Seems strange that they did it in the first place.  High temp engine paint?

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste

Is it practical to try and use some engine paint on them before resorting to a high temp coating like ceramic?  Ceramic seems like an extreme solution in this case. :shruggy:

JB400

I say try it and see what happens.  Either way, you won't hurt it any.  Just make sure you properly prep it first berore painting.

Nacho-RT74

no one paint can I have used worked, neither engine or VHT. I'm thinking on a ceramicoat industrial treatment
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste

That seems strange to me that your tips are getting so hot that high temp paint is burning off.  Good luck my friend, I hope you find what works. (and ceramic my well be the only thing)