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For you 3rd gen guys looking for something..

Started by HeavyFuel, October 03, 2012, 03:38:12 PM

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1974dodgecharger

Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

moparguy01

I have to agree, that car is way overpriced. What i can see from the pictures is a low option car. No rallye gauges, no a/c, small block, console car with a bench seat that was recovered in a non factory style. for a third gen charger to hit that price, you need to be a 71 R/T or Superbee, or else have some serious money tied up into the thing. Blowers, turbos, huge HP type stuff.

To put it into perspective, a few years back, when the market was still much better than now, i tried to sell my 74 charger se, 318 auto, ran and drove good. very nice paint and body, with a nice interior although it had no headliner. it was also an a/c car with buckets and a console, with rallye gauges. i couldnt even get anyone interested enough to look at it for 7k. i would say it was nicer than this car, from the few pics they posted, plus i also had more of the desired parts.

HeavyFuel

Yep....you guys are right....I :eek2: didn't scrutinize the pics enough.....looks like a so-so repaint along the line, too.

plum500

Way over priced I agree. But I bought my '71 because I like the styling better, not because I couldn't get a 2nd gen. :P If I'm not mistaken, the '73 Charger actually had the highest sales numbers (of all the classics).

Edit: Not "better" - differently. I'd love to have a 68-70 as well. I'd love to have a first gen too. But.... time space and money :)

moparguy01

i believe it did have the highest sales. i got mine after owning  ew second gens, and ten third gens. the third gens just ride better IMO.

carsnguitars

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

You just need to get a new perspective for X'Mas, ask Santa.

3rd Gens are great in their own way. They kinda grow on you and are just as fun to drive.
As for price, buy a R/T for under 10K or Superbee....Look at production numbers they are hard to come by.

Maybe just me, but I think 2nd gens are for poeple who cant all appreciate cars!  :laugh:

gschmidt211

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PMThats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen
:shruggy:

...And people who buy 2nd gen Chargers because they can't afford e-bodies.   :nana:

I have seen plenty of 2nd gen guys hate the third gen cars.  I don't really get it, but I have seen plenty of it.  You have your own personal taste (or lack there of), but that is on you.  Why disrespect anyone who has a love for these cars and spend tons of time and money restoring them?  If I wanted a 2nd gen, I'd buy one and restore it.  But I like the body lines and styling of the 3rd gen Chargers.  The '72 Rallye I am building is a master piece of art on wheels.  The louvered doors, the bulge hood, the R/T style taillights (best tail lights ever put on a Charger) are all kick ass.

I have riden in a friend's '68 Charger R/T and it was fantastic.  It was one of those early moments in life that set me down the path of getting into this hobby.

Your telling me and all of the folks on this forum that you wouldn't pay more than $10K for any of Tim Wellborn's hemi superbees or hemi R/T's, just because they are 3rd gen and you don't like them.  Well, thankfully none of those cars well ever be in your hands as there is no way any of his cars are going anywhere for $10K.
1972 Charger Rallye
2014 Ram Outdoorsman 3.6L 4x2
1978 D100 Utiline Standard Cab

gschmidt211

Quote from: HeavyFuel on October 03, 2012, 03:38:12 PM
http://www.bismanonline.com/1972_dodge_charger_c

Might be worth checking out.

On the merits of this car, it does seem a bit high.  The high impact color is okay, but not optioned in '72 and since it is a standard charger, without being restored to close to original condition, it would not be the car for me at this price.  The market for these cars is down more so than the other generations, and at $16K, he is really pushing the envelope for what he would expect to get.

However, I wish him nothing but the best of luck in selling his car and hopefully someone with deep pockets finds the car and is exactly what they are looking for.
1972 Charger Rallye
2014 Ram Outdoorsman 3.6L 4x2
1978 D100 Utiline Standard Cab

gschmidt211

Quote from: plum500 on October 03, 2012, 05:58:52 PMIf I'm not mistaken, the '73 Charger actually had the highest sales numbers (of all the classics).
1972 Charger Rallye
2014 Ram Outdoorsman 3.6L 4x2
1978 D100 Utiline Standard Cab

1974dodgecharger

Like I said all 1st to 3rd are true chargers all have their own 'right', but overall the 2nd gen will always be more popular and majority of the time will 'sell' higher than a same optioned 3rd gen no matter what.

A forum member has put into his total resto 3rd gen in the tune of over 60k I believe a total frame off resto and he has a hard time unloading at 20k people actually offered him 7k for it.

Sales or not that was the past im talking current prices as in the 'now' the 2nd gen will always demand more money than any other gen with same specs.

Nature of the beast....
Quote from: gschmidt211 on October 03, 2012, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PMThats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen
:shruggy:

...And people who buy 2nd gen Chargers because they can't afford e-bodies.   :nana:

I have seen plenty of 2nd gen guys hate the third gen cars.  I don't really get it, but I have seen plenty of it.  You have your own personal taste (or lack there of), but that is on you.  Why disrespect anyone who has a love for these cars and spend tons of time and money restoring them?  If I wanted a 2nd gen, I'd buy one and restore it.  But I like the body lines and styling of the 3rd gen Chargers.  The '72 Rallye I am building is a master piece of art on wheels.  The louvered doors, the bulge hood, the R/T style taillights (best tail lights ever put on a Charger) are all kick ass.

I have riden in a friend's '68 Charger R/T and it was fantastic.  It was one of those early moments in life that set me down the path of getting into this hobby.

Your telling me and all of the folks on this forum that you wouldn't pay more than $10K for any of Tim Wellborn's hemi superbees or hemi R/T's, just because they are 3rd gen and you don't like them.  Well, thankfully none of those cars well ever be in your hands as there is no way any of his cars are going anywhere for $10K.

VegasCharger

Yep I agree. I'm selling a '73 SE Charger runs and drives 95% there. Rust free w/360 2bbl and I can't move it for $3000.00. But I'll be able to sell it for parts and double my money it will just take longer. Why is it that you can sell the parts like crazy but not the whole car. People in the east are paying something like $300-$400 for a rust free deck lid because they don't re-pop them.

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: VegasCharger on October 04, 2012, 05:32:33 AM
... People in the east are paying something like $300-$400 for a rust free deck lid because they don't re-pop them.

Do tell...
I have 2 rust free deck lids I'd sell them.  One with the Orig. key.

As for that ad on the car.  I agree with the other posts.  318-Auto, column shift, bench is not going to get more than 10K if at all.
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

41husk

I don't own a 3rd gen currently but I have and I love them.  As for that car, I would agree it is way overpriced, but I think you would be hard pressed to find a non SE big block 71 or 72 in that shape for under 10k.  That would be a great deal on a 71 Bee, RT, or 72 Rallye, big or small block, auto or 4spd. :Twocents:
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

HeavyFuel

I'm glad my post generated some good discussion anyway.....I still feel like a knob for not looking at the car closer.

What was on my mind were the total basket case 3rd gens that a couple members are putting back together.  Kudos to them....it's ton of work. :yesnod:  

But there's REALLY nice cars out there that don't need to be completely reconstructed from a rusted hulk. (although this example is a little pricey) 

chargd72

Quote from: gschmidt211 on October 03, 2012, 07:56:30 PM
Quote from: plum500 on October 03, 2012, 05:58:52 PMIf I'm not mistaken, the '73 Charger actually had the highest sales numbers (of all the classics).

Looks like the public preferred the 3rd Gen styling over dwindling 2nd gen.  Also, 3rd gens are the only ones that did better in sales than the previous and later body style.

IMO, it doesn't get much better than a 71/72 with a bulge hood, concealed headlights and a front spoiler.  It looks like it's moving when at a stand still.  However, I would love to get my hands on a '68 as well.

          '72 Charger SE 4bbl 318                          '76 Power Wagon 400 W200                                 2011 (attempt at a) Charger

Dino

I like the look of the 3rd gens and I've seen some really nice ones on this board but I doubt I'd ever own one.  The 2nd gen is the better looking car to me and if I would ever add another classic to my garage I doubt it would be another mopar.

I did drive a 318 72 once and it's true, it's a better ride than a stock 2nd gen, but it's not enough for me.  The 69 Charger is my absolute dream car, there's no supercar in the world I would rather want to have.


Sometimes when I see 1st of 3rd gens for sale Iwish that it would be my favorite car because they are so much cheaper.

Looks like the seller of that green thing has dropped his price for the last time, he's going to be very disappointed.

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 04, 2012, 01:06:49 AM
A forum member has put into his total resto 3rd gen in the tune of over 60k I believe a total frame off resto and he has a hard time unloading at 20k people actually offered him 7k for it.


People need to realize that there are only a select few cars that would give you a profit after a resto.  I always told my customers that the resto will be for them as it is not an investment.  Most are shocked because they bought the car to be their nest egg, yet it needs a full resto and it just doesn't work that way.

People need to know what a car in a certain condition is worth and weigh the cost of resto vs leaving as is.  Dumping $60K in a car that may bring $20K on a very good day only makes sense if the car would never be sold.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

JPL

Mine is a late 80's resto, without profit in mind, but looking at it that way, I could profit from it if it was for sale, but it's not.
I do get a lot of compliments on it though.......














Dino

Quote from: JPL on October 04, 2012, 12:02:59 PM
Mine is a late 80's resto, without profit in mind, but looking at it that way, I could profit from it if it was for sale, but it's not.
I do get a lot of compliments on it though.......


As you should, it's beautiful.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

41husk

1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

1973rallye

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, having said that I was surprised to read this on this site.

If I am not mistaken the site is DodgeCharger.com

Time to stop inhaling exhaust. Coincidentally, thats just my opinion.
1973 Rallye 440 4 speed
2016 Challenger r/t Shaker

JB400

Quote from: 1973rallye on October 04, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, having said that I was surprised to read this on this site.

If I am not mistaken the site is DodgeCharger.com

Time to stop inhaling exhaust. Coincidentally, thats just my opinion.
Is it possible for a couple of guys to get along and agree to disagree? :boxing_smiley: :nono: :2thumbs:

Dino

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 04, 2012, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: 1973rallye on October 04, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, having said that I was surprised to read this on this site.

If I am not mistaken the site is DodgeCharger.com

Time to stop inhaling exhaust. Coincidentally, thats just my opinion.
Is it possible for a couple of guys to get along and agree to disagree?

Two words:  Chevy Volt
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

JB400

Quote from: Dino on October 04, 2012, 12:46:56 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 04, 2012, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: 1973rallye on October 04, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, having said that I was surprised to read this on this site.

If I am not mistaken the site is DodgeCharger.com

Time to stop inhaling exhaust. Coincidentally, thats just my opinion.
Is it possible for a couple of guys to get along and agree to disagree?

Two words:  Chevy Volt
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :nutkick: :whistling:

1974dodgecharger

He did not mean to want to sell it...he loves the car dearly, but wanted to sell it for personal reason..he couldnt even break half of what he put into....not gonna divulge further since its a very well respected forum member.....
Quote from: Dino on October 04, 2012, 11:24:10 AM
I like the look of the 3rd gens and I've seen some really nice ones on this board but I doubt I'd ever own one.  The 2nd gen is the better looking car to me and if I would ever add another classic to my garage I doubt it would be another mopar.

I did drive a 318 72 once and it's true, it's a better ride than a stock 2nd gen, but it's not enough for me.  The 69 Charger is my absolute dream car, there's no supercar in the world I would rather want to have.


Sometimes when I see 1st of 3rd gens for sale Iwish that it would be my favorite car because they are so much cheaper.

Looks like the seller of that green thing has dropped his price for the last time, he's going to be very disappointed.

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 04, 2012, 01:06:49 AM
A forum member has put into his total resto 3rd gen in the tune of over 60k I believe a total frame off resto and he has a hard time unloading at 20k people actually offered him 7k for it.


People need to realize that there are only a select few cars that would give you a profit after a resto.  I always told my customers that the resto will be for them as it is not an investment.  Most are shocked because they bought the car to be their nest egg, yet it needs a full resto and it just doesn't work that way.

People need to know what a car in a certain condition is worth and weigh the cost of resto vs leaving as is.  Dumping $60K in a car that may bring $20K on a very good day only makes sense if the car would never be sold.

1974dodgecharger

sure take it my quote out of context and cut and paste at your lesiure  ::)

Like I said and you cut it out all 1st to 3rd gen are STILL CHARGERS NO MATTER WHAT...

I hope you quote me on that, but I highly doubt you will  ::)
Quote from: 1973rallye on October 04, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, having said that I was surprised to read this on this site.

If I am not mistaken the site is DodgeCharger.com

Time to stop inhaling exhaust. Coincidentally, thats just my opinion.

Back N Black

Quote from: JPL on October 04, 2012, 12:02:59 PM
Mine is a late 80's resto, without profit in mind, but looking at it that way, I could profit from it if it was for sale, but it's not.
I do get a lot of compliments on it though.......





Beautiful Charger!  :2thumbs:

1974dodgecharger

Oh im fine I disagree to agree  ;)

The quoter just quoted to his heart contents thats all... :2thumbs:


50 bucks saids he wont quote me on this either, "I LOVE 1974 DODGE CHARGERS AND THOSE ARE 3RD GEN CHARGERS HENCE MY SCREEN NAME'



Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 04, 2012, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: 1973rallye on October 04, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, having said that I was surprised to read this on this site.

If I am not mistaken the site is DodgeCharger.com

Time to stop inhaling exhaust. Coincidentally, thats just my opinion.
Is it possible for a couple of guys to get along and agree to disagree? :boxing_smiley: :nono: :2thumbs:

ACUDANUT

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Is this why you own a 74 Charger.  :scratchchin:

ACUDANUT

74 Chargers are by far the least desirability.

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 04, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
74 Chargers are by far the least desirability.


::)

By Far?... Are they really Acudanut?  Based on what data?  Your own personal opinion?

I'd buy any '73/'74 - 4 speed car over that '72 in the ad any day.
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

Dino

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 04, 2012, 01:18:01 PM
He did not mean to want to sell it...he loves the car dearly, but wanted to sell it for personal reason..he couldnt even break half of what he put into....not gonna divulge further since its a very well respected forum member.....
Quote from: Dino on October 04, 2012, 11:24:10 AM
I like the look of the 3rd gens and I've seen some really nice ones on this board but I doubt I'd ever own one.  The 2nd gen is the better looking car to me and if I would ever add another classic to my garage I doubt it would be another mopar.

I did drive a 318 72 once and it's true, it's a better ride than a stock 2nd gen, but it's not enough for me.  The 69 Charger is my absolute dream car, there's no supercar in the world I would rather want to have.


Sometimes when I see 1st of 3rd gens for sale Iwish that it would be my favorite car because they are so much cheaper.

Looks like the seller of that green thing has dropped his price for the last time, he's going to be very disappointed.

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 04, 2012, 01:06:49 AM
A forum member has put into his total resto 3rd gen in the tune of over 60k I believe a total frame off resto and he has a hard time unloading at 20k people actually offered him 7k for it.


People need to realize that there are only a select few cars that would give you a profit after a resto.  I always told my customers that the resto will be for them as it is not an investment.  Most are shocked because they bought the car to be their nest egg, yet it needs a full resto and it just doesn't work that way.

People need to know what a car in a certain condition is worth and weigh the cost of resto vs leaving as is.  Dumping $60K in a car that may bring $20K on a very good day only makes sense if the car would never be sold.

Fair enough, I wouldn't want to delve into anyone's personal life anyway.  It's a shame he has to sell because that investment is gone.  I do hope he gets something worthwhile back.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

TheGhost

Quote from: gschmidt211 on October 03, 2012, 07:56:30 PM
Quote from: plum500 on October 03, 2012, 05:58:52 PMIf I'm not mistaken, the '73 Charger actually had the highest sales numbers (of all the classics).

Why the big drop off in 70?  People didn't like the wraparound bumper?
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

flyinlow

JPL,      Nice car! What are the bucket seats out of?

1973rallye

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 04, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
Oh im fine I disagree to agree  ;)

The quoter just quoted to his heart contents thats all... :2thumbs:


50 bucks saids he wont quote me on this either, "I LOVE 1974 DODGE CHARGERS AND THOSE ARE 3RD GEN CHARGERS HENCE MY SCREEN NAME'



Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 04, 2012, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: 1973rallye on October 04, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, having said that I was surprised to read this on this site.

If I am not mistaken the site is DodgeCharger.com

Time to stop inhaling exhaust. Coincidentally, thats just my opinion.
Is it possible for a couple of guys to get along and agree to disagree? :boxing_smiley: :nono: :2thumbs:

So....who gets the fifty then? Did not build to sell, never had one. As a matter of fact I had a 74 318 Challenger Rallye which I attempted to trade for a 73 Rallye which was white with a 400/727 combo. I did not choose one over the other. Love em all 1st to 3rd.  No harm no foul and certainly no ill will intended by anyone I am sure.
1973 Rallye 440 4 speed
2016 Challenger r/t Shaker

1974dodgecharger

50 bucks in my pocket bro  ::) Ill just keep it there  :yesnod:

JPL

Quote from: flyinlow on October 04, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
JPL,      Nice car! What are the bucket seats out of?

They are Mark Cross seats out of a Daytona, power drivers and a lumbar/thigh pump, very comfy.

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 04, 2012, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on October 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Not to be mean to 3rd gen guys, but I would never ever go over 10k for a 3rd gen no matter whats been put into (maybe blower if that).

Thats just me...te 3rd gen is for folks who cant afford the 2nd gen based on my perspective and what I see unless the 3rd gen meant something really really really special to this person.

Is this why you own a 74 Charger.  :scratchchin:

special enough to sell when in time of need...... :'(

ACUDANUT

Quote from: EccentricMagpies on October 04, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 04, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
74 Chargers are by far the least desirability.


::)

By Far?... Are they really Acudanut?  Based on what data?  Your own personal opinion?

I'd buy any '73/'74 - 4 speed car over that '72 in the ad any day.

It was just a jab 74 Charger.
IMO a 71/72 Chargers are the best in 3rd gens.
IMO they ruined the roof lines after that. Not to mention the 71/72 Chargers had the louvered doors, louvered taillights and hide-a-away headlights.  That is why they cost more too...MY 2 CENTS.

1974dodgecharger

didnt think it was a jab  :popcrn:

We all know 1st to 3rd are TRUE CHARGERS...anything after that is whoring out the name 'CHARGER'
Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 04, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: EccentricMagpies on October 04, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 04, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
74 Chargers are by far the least desirability.


::)

By Far?... Are they really Acudanut?  Based on what data?  Your own personal opinion?

I'd buy any '73/'74 - 4 speed car over that '72 in the ad any day.

It was just a jab 74 Charger.
IMO a 71/72 Chargers are the best in 3rd gens.
IMO they ruined the roof lines after that. Not to mention the 71/72 Chargers had the louvered doors, louvered taillights and hide-a-away headlights.  That is why they cost more too...MY 2 CENTS.

plum500

The combo I'd really like to have as far as style goes, is a '73 (love the rear pillar '73/74), no vinyl (best on '71/'72 roof line), no louvers/fill ins on the side windows, bulge hood, custom hideaways in a Coronet bumper setup (no I piece), no decklid spolier, body color bumpers, and a chin spoiler. That is all :)

Or this beautiful ride:

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 04, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: EccentricMagpies on October 04, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 04, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
74 Chargers are by far the least desirability.


::)

By Far?... Are they really Acudanut?  Based on what data?  Your own personal opinion?

I'd buy any '73/'74 - 4 speed car over that '72 in the ad any day.

It was just a jab 74 Charger.
IMO a 71/72 Chargers are the best in 3rd gens.
IMO they ruined the roof lines after that. Not to mention the 71/72 Chargers had the louvered doors, louvered taillights and hide-a-away headlights.  That is why they cost more too...MY 2 CENTS.

The key word missing here are SOME 71/72 chargers had the louvered doors, hide-a-away headlights etc....
I can put a hide-away lights on my '74 if choose to do so.  Does that increase the value?  Not to me.

There is a lot more than the year that brings value to a car.

Personally, I'd say the '71 stands on it's own, and the '72/'73/'74 can all be grouped in the same bucket.  But I'd take the 73/74 body style over the 71/72's.
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'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

JPL


The key word missing here are SOME 71/72 chargers had the louvered doors, hide-a-away headlights etc....
I can put a hide-away lights on my '74 if choose to do so.  Does that increase the value?  Not to me.

There is a lot more than the year that brings value to a car.

Personally, I'd say the '71 stands on it's own, and the '72/'73/'74 can all be grouped in the same bucket.  But I'd take the 73/74 body style over the 71/72's.
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1971 is the year for me from the gen3 cars, small differences, but differences, I really like the side markers on the '71, 1973 cars were actually longer, wider, and slightly taller, & I think they have bigger wheel openings, never like the 5mph bumpers, and lastly, I was told 1971 was the last year for the "Go-Wing" as a dealer installed option, apparently some dealers had these left over, debatable, but I like them better than the "Gullwing".....just my  :Twocents:






EccentricMagpies

'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd


gschmidt211

 Personally, I'd say the '71 stands on it's own, and the '72/'73/'74 can all be grouped in the same bucket.  But I'd take the 73/74 body style over the 71/72's.
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The 1972 model year has more in common with 1971 that it does with '73/'74.  The '71 does stand alone as it is the last year of the hemi cars, however, all of the sheet metal, suspension, etc is the same for '71/'72 and changes for the '73/'74.  I refer to the '73/'74 and the 3rd and a ½ gens.  Body lines are different, wheel wells are different, doors skins are different, bumpers are different, suspension is different.  K-frames are different. K-frames are so different that there are small block k-frames and big block k-frames.  1972 was the last year that the k-frame was the same for small block and big block.  The quarter windows changed.  There were all sorts of changes for '73/'74.  I don't agree that 1972 should be lumped in with those two years.  That is one of the reason's why I like the 1972 model year.  It is similar to 1971, but not exactly the same.  However, the following years are so different it doesn't fit there either.  1972 is in a class of it's own.
1972 Charger Rallye
2014 Ram Outdoorsman 3.6L 4x2
1978 D100 Utiline Standard Cab

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: gschmidt211 on October 05, 2012, 10:59:08 AM
Personally, I'd say the '71 stands on it's own, and the '72/'73/'74 can all be grouped in the same bucket.  But I'd take the 73/74 body style over the 71/72's.
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The 1972 model year has more in common with 1971 that it does with '73/'74.  The '71 does stand alone as it is the last year of the hemi cars, however, all of the sheet metal, suspension, etc is the same for '71/'72 and changes for the '73/'74.  I refer to the '73/'74 and the 3rd and a ½ gens.  Body lines are different, wheel wells are different, doors skins are different, bumpers are different, suspension is different.  K-frames are different. K-frames are so different that there are small block k-frames and big block k-frames.  1972 was the last year that the k-frame was the same for small block and big block.  The quarter windows changed.  There were all sorts of changes for '73/'74.  I don't agree that 1972 should be lumped in with those two years.  That is one of the reason's why I like the 1972 model year.  It is similar to 1971, but not exactly the same.  However, the following years are so different it doesn't fit there either.  1972 is in a class of it's own.

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That was merely a jab for ACUDANUT

;)   ;)
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

Iron Chef

Anyone who throws tons of money into a car in the hopes of making a profit is dreaming.  If you're putting money into your car, make sure it's for YOU, because you'll likely never see it again.  Don't believe me?  Watch the auction shows.  "Over $70,000 invested in this car!!!" ....sells for $30K.  And these builders KNOW they're going to lose money and still cry about it.  Want a sure thing?  Buy Apple stock.

As far as Chargers being the for those who can't afford a 2nd gen...well...that's one of those generalizations people really shouldn't make because it's silly.  I could afford anything I wanted up to and including a Daytona.  I chose my '71 because I like them the best.  And I'm putting money into it because it gives me pleasure.  Not because I want to turn a profit.
Most of your life should be "off the record."

Dino

Quote from: Iron Chef on October 05, 2012, 12:28:12 PM
Anyone who throws tons of money into a car in the hopes of making a profit is dreaming.  If you're putting money into your car, make sure it's for YOU, because you'll likely never see it again.  Don't believe me?  Watch the auction shows.  "Over $70,000 invested in this car!!!" ....sells for $30K.  And these builders KNOW they're going to lose money and still cry about it.  Want a sure thing?  Buy Apple stock.

As far as Chargers being the for those who can't afford a 2nd gen...well...that's one of those generalizations people really shouldn't make because it's silly.  I could afford anything I wanted up to and including a Daytona.  I chose my '71 because I like them the best.  And I'm putting money into it because it gives me pleasure.  Not because I want to turn a profit.

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

flyinlow

They are hobby cars. Drive 'em, work on 'em and enjoy'em before the government of the people ,by the people and for the people takes them away.

ACUDANUT

Quote from: EccentricMagpies on October 05, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: gschmidt211 on October 05, 2012, 10:59:08 AM
Personally, I'd say the '71 stands on it's own, and the '72/'73/'74 can all be grouped in the same bucket.  But I'd take the 73/74 body style over the 71/72's.
:Twocents:

The 1972 model year has more in common with 1971 that it does with '73/'74.  The '71 does stand alone as it is the last year of the hemi cars, however, all of the sheet metal, suspension, etc is the same for '71/'72 and changes for the '73/'74.  I refer to the '73/'74 and the 3rd and a ½ gens.  Body lines are different, wheel wells are different, doors skins are different, bumpers are different, suspension is different.  K-frames are different. K-frames are so different that there are small block k-frames and big block k-frames.  1972 was the last year that the k-frame was the same for small block and big block.  The quarter windows changed.  There were all sorts of changes for '73/'74.  I don't agree that 1972 should be lumped in with those two years.  That is one of the reason's why I like the 1972 model year.  It is similar to 1971, but not exactly the same.  However, the following years are so different it doesn't fit there either.  1972 is in a class of it's own.

I didn't feel a jab at all. You are right.
except a 72 being in a class of it own....It's in the 71/72 class.
Please keep your 73/74 Chargers because nobody else wants them.  :icon_smile_big:

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: gschmidt211 on October 03, 2012, 07:56:30 PM
Quote from: plum500 on October 03, 2012, 05:58:52 PMIf I'm not mistaken, the '73 Charger actually had the highest sales numbers (of all the classics).

Maybe you over-looked this note.
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd