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Started by Lee A, October 01, 2012, 09:59:28 PM

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Lee A

I talked to Scott about his vectors and they seem kind of expensive at 1800 a set for 40 year old rims. So I hunted around and found some nice sets for a couple hundred bucks but when I phoned about them they were sold and it was that darn Scott that bought them even a new set of 50th anni vectors for 650. The funny part is he told the guy he bought them from and every other person i talked to that the wheels were going on his own charger.i bet 100 dollars Scott doesnt even own a dodge at all.So all in all you have someone reinventing the wheel and charging the crap out of the average car guy. I will drive my general on rusty steel wheels before spending that kind of money.Another guy that doesn't even have any thing to do with cars but his own greed
1968 Dodge Charger 440
1969 Dodge Charger 383

JB400

Didn't American Racing start repoping the Vectors again?  I thought I heard something that they were, but have yet to see anyone selling them.

greenpigs

I could be wrong, but I thought it was for a limited time and its been over a year since they made any. :shruggy:
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Ghoste

Do you think if this Scott guy had told them he didn't own a Dodge and was just buying them to resell at a higher price they would would have said "oh no then we don't want to sell them to you"?

Daytona R/T SE

Wait a minute....

Someone is paying $1800 a set for vectors?

Time to clean the shed out... :scratchchin:

Lee A

Those are suppose to be machined and powder coated and if he were to buy yours he would tell you they are only worth a couple hundred
1968 Dodge Charger 440
1969 Dodge Charger 383

Ghoste

So is he a business or a hobbyist or what?  What is the going rate on Vectors?

BrianShaughnessy

Buy low....  sell high  :Twocents:

JB seems happy with the vectors he got from Detroit Vintage  :shruggy:

I was looking at some ebay auctions he had going on for some aluminum slots and was considering them but the problem with the wider vintage slots and vectors is usually the offset / backspacing is just awful for Mopars.    0 offset usually works great but the slots and vectors usually don't come that way.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

440

The good old days of finding Vectors for $150 - $200 a set in good condition are long gone. The $1200 - $1400 price tag for them today is just plain crazy. I have a set of both new and old Vectors. I don't even really like the new ones much but think they'll make nice displays in the man cave.

I'm surprised sets of the new limited edition wheels don't even come up for sale often.

chargerboy69

Quote from: Ghoste on October 02, 2012, 06:46:44 AM
So is he a business or a hobbyist or what?  What is the going rate on Vectors?


Yes, they restore old aftermarket wheels ( Cragar, Keystone, AR, ect. . ).  They usually have several ads on E-Bay.
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Ghoste

Seems like its hard to criticize the guy for wanting to buy low and sell high.  I don't know. :shruggy:

JB400

Quote from: 440 on October 02, 2012, 09:02:01 AM
The good old days of finding Vectors for $150 - $200 a set in good condition are long gone. The $1200 - $1400 price tag for them today is just plain crazy. I have a set of both new and old Vectors. I don't even really like the new ones much but think they'll make nice displays in the man cave.

I'm surprised sets of the new limited edition wheels don't even come up for sale often.
I ain't telling what I paid for mine.  You'd faint or say I was full of bs. 

440

Well, that could be either end of the spectrum but I'm guessing the higher side. I wonder how they justify the high prices? 5 - 10 years ago I was pulling them out of wreckers for next to nothing.

AKH prices are also quite steep.

Ghoste

When American did the anniversary ones did they sell out quickly or languish on the shelves for a while?

Lee A

I think it was a just a steady buy until they were gone I asked about a set at the store and they wanted I think 600 to 800 here in Canada then I forgot all about it wish I would of fit 2 sets
1968 Dodge Charger 440
1969 Dodge Charger 383

jb666

Scott's a good guy. He puts a lot of time into each set of wheels he sells.. CNC , powdercoat, clearcoat and you get them 100% polished looking like a show pc...

And he's a business, not just some schmuck working out of a garage.. Nice smart guy who puts out a Hell of a product...

I just sold a set of old-school AR Vectors for $900...


detroitvintagewheels

Thank a lot JB. Glad I could supply you with 2 sets of Vectors for you Award winning General Lee that is no doubt one of the finest on planet Earth, I was and am always honored to have been chosen to be a part of that car and all the others that chose my wheels and my work.  

Lee...Well you sure do know how to offend a guy. I will attach pictures of all the dodges I own...or have owned. I would like my $100 sent to my Paypal.  I will remain professional in my reply and not give you the words I really have in my head for you. I would not bring my self down to your level to post such LIES about you as you have for the world to read about me. It is obvious you just want to tarnish someone else for doing something you could not.  Your insults are simply...well you do not know what you are talking about. I have NEVER said i was building my own general lee. I have told people I am looking for wheels for my friends who are building one. That is 100% honest truth. Each of my customers are friends of mine I keep in touch with and I find honor in being a part of so many great machines each build with a lot of passion, blood, sweat and surely some tears. I truely love doing this with the general lee wheels. And you are 100% wrong, I tell people all the time how much their wheels are worth when they call me asking me to sell them. As for the Vectors...I buy them always for the asking price and never offer less.  I typically make litterally no money on them as I usually pay 500-1000USD for the wheels I restore using 247,000.00 in industrial machine equiptment, making sure they are 100% true and straight, perfect lug holes, fully CNC machine new faces and edges, machine the tire bead seat locations and powdercoat them in first in black, then in powder clear so they never need polishing ever.  I offer 100% satifaction guarantees to all my customers. As for calling me a MAN OF GREED...well if you did that in front of my face you would get some serious passion thrown back at you. I started my company Detroit Vintage Wheels 3 years ago and have paid myself 1 check from the business.  As for saying I am not a car guy...well your words are simply ignorant. Lee, you give Canadians a bad name. I hold true that Heros and Aholes come in all nationality, religion, color, sex, or race.

As for anyone else who reads this...here is what its all about for me and my company Detroit Vintage Wheels that I am the sole employee for:
i really do not know where I am going with this but it seems the more Detroit Vintage Wheels grows the more I want to add to it. and thanks in advance so much for reading and forgiving my terrible spelling and shotty gramar...Ya know the wheels are just some of the things in life...some spend a life with what matters...helping people...through medicine...through day care...through teaching...through care of the elderly...through banking or accounting or politics... or what ever it is that you call work. It is a pay check or a good nights sleep from giving it all we got. It is what ever it is that we do to make the bills paid. For me right now it is just wheels and services that are exchanged for money. And do the wheels mean anything? no not really. Does the money mean anything? no not really. It is just just metal. It is just paper or numbers in some untangable account. It IS what we the people bring to the table. When someone we know dies...or someone we do not even know yet is born...the wheels mean nothing. My friend lost a family member to death today and suddenly it just doenst matter. Maybe you did too...or one of your friends did. The machines my wheels...or your wheels...that once were the person who bought them 40 years ago...well the machine they go on means nothing, it is not flesh and blood. It does not miss us when we leave it alone, It is not happy when come back around to it...and yet everything is what they represent to us. They represent and trigger the memories....of the places they carried us to where we made more memories and met more people with some common thoughts or some amazing views. They mean that girl or for you ladies that boy we met when we were in them...or went on our first dates in...or kissed or a bit more in the backseat lol. We took them to games and beaches and camping...they almost always faithfully did their service and seem to gain their own persona. And the places they carried those who possesed them before us when the last thing they cared about was the metal and plastic they are...only the destination such as a hospitol or a court date or a very important doctors appointment...or maybe just home...that destination was what mattered and who was at that ending point where we shut down the ignition. Because sometimes when a life is on the line...its just a heap of metal. They are not the flesh and blood that is often found to be so precious when its snapped away from us. We sell them and watch them roll away like some good old friend...or a good riddins to one that always broke down on us. And when we have one that say our dads or our moms drove and we grew up in..they became a memeber of the family for most of us loved nearly as much as the family pets. We even name some of them. and they seeming have faces..some smile like a VW beatle...some frown like truck with grills of big teeth. What ever it is about them...We all share the depth of the iimpact they make on our life. We remember them and when we see one again its just like seeing that long lost friend and the flood of memories come back. If there is a one of you that read this and never shed a tear over Chip's overhaulin or your own rides...well if not than your not human...or maybe your just not one of us. And so the resurection of the machine and its parts... the heart that speeds up in the anticipation and the following presentations of that machine and its parts... and the human satisfaction that comes with it all is what really means everything...it means everything. I find more honor than I ever have before being a part of these resurections and restorations. Its like nothing I ever felt realy. Most days i feel like i go to bed to where the real life must be because when i wake up i swear its a dream to be here. Now Detroit Vintage wheels is not some huge thing...its not giant business but it is mine....and I owe to everyone who wants to see the machines like I do. Not like all the new stuff...Like Frank and Mike from American Pickers and Rick's restorations.....we like old stuff and want it how it used to be. I was a kid then and most of you were driving around those memories and when i was 5 or 6 or 7 or 10 years old i watched you all drive by and said back then that is what I want. And so every time I finish a set of these 40 year old wheels and they get shipped out and I get a picture back of the machine they became a part of..the clock winds back, and I am that kid again. A most bizare response about some wheels but i come to find thankfulness not in the wheel its self...but in the human interacations. They are priceless to me really...I made a business out of it and so I accept money for the trade of the wheels and part of the memory back for my customers...and i just get to be a part of it. It is huge and I make big promises to be as good or better than you rememmber. I can only hope to meet those expectations and be a man of my word with this...or with anything. thank you all on this day...sure maybe i shouldn't say all this but I am selfish i guess, because i have to say it, write it...so that I keep in in me everyday and keep the good times rolling. Thanks for Reading again.

Feel free to find my work at my webpage, follow it on Facebook, and see my inventory on ebay. I ship world wide.

Scott Benedict, owner and sole employee of Detroit Vintage Wheels.

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detroitvintagewheels

Quote from: 440 on October 02, 2012, 09:02:01 AM
The good old days of finding Vectors for $150 - $200 a set in good condition are long gone. The $1200 - $1400 price tag for them today is just plain crazy. I have a set of both new and old Vectors. I don't even really like the new ones much but think they'll make nice displays in the man cave.

I'm surprised sets of the new limited edition wheels don't even come up for sale often.

I do not just buy and sell vectors like i buy them. I restore them $240,000.00 worth of industrial equipment. just take a moment to read my reply above and know what i do with them. No one else on earth does this...the cars deserve it...they have $50k plus in them and are better than they ever were new, and now so are the wheels.  ~Scott Benedict.

detroitvintagewheels

Quote from: 440 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:52 PM
Well, that could be either end of the spectrum but I'm guessing the higher side. I wonder how they justify the high prices? 5 - 10 years ago I was pulling them out of wreckers for next to nothing.

AKH prices are also quite steep.

I replied above to Lee's post. Take a read and see what I am doing to them. Its no they...just me, one man. Scott Benedict. Now i am only defending my work, my name, and my company. Thanks in advance for reading.

detroitvintagewheels

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on October 02, 2012, 06:06:40 AM
Wait a minute....

Someone is paying $1800 a set for vectors?

Time to clean the shed out... :scratchchin:

Thats the spirit!  they sell for about 700-1000 for them...if they are 4.5" bolt pattern. I run them through 240,000.00 in industrial machine eqiupment to make them better than AR ever sold them new. i have long reply above you might enjoy reading...i dunno...you tell me.  Scott Benedict.

detroitvintagewheels

Quote from: Lee A on October 02, 2012, 06:24:15 AM
Those are suppose to be machined and powder coated and if he were to buy yours he would tell you they are only worth a couple hundred
what ever...you dont know what I tell people...I tell people all the time that they are worth 700-1000 depending on condition.

detroitvintagewheels

Quote from: Ghoste on October 02, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
Seems like its hard to criticize the guy for wanting to buy low and sell high.  I don't know. :shruggy:
Thanks man. i replied above if you want to read what I have to say about Lee's accusations

pippo702

Just spotted this post and I feel I have to bring my experience..
I found Detroit Vintage Wheels on ebay and soon he seemed trustworthy..yeah,they aren't cheap but they are beautiful and I'm very happy with them..he also offered himself to get the tires I bought from Jeg's shipped to him to put them on the wheels and to carrie both wheels and tires for a hundred miles where the car was before it got shipped to Italy to let me save on shipment..

c00nhunterjoe

You get what you pay for. A used set of vectors that need resto costs 800 easy nowadays. That comes with plenty of custom road rash. While I don't have the cash to lay out to get mine restored, if I did I would use scott. I ve seen the detailed photos of jb666's wheels. They are a work of art.

detroitvintagewheels

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on June 09, 2013, 09:20:52 PM
You get what you pay for. A used set of vectors that need resto costs 800 easy nowadays. That comes with plenty of custom road rash. While I don't have the cash to lay out to get mine restored, if I did I would use scott. I ve seen the detailed photos of jb666's wheels. They are a work of art.

Thanks so much for the post here and your testimony. I sincerely appreciate it.
Scott Benedict, ~Detroit Vintage Wheels

pippo702

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on June 09, 2013, 09:20:52 PM
You get what you pay for. A used set of vectors that need resto costs 800 easy nowadays. That comes with plenty of custom road rash. While I don't have the cash to lay out to get mine restored, if I did I would use scott. I ve seen the detailed photos of jb666's wheels. They are a work of art.


They are indeed! That's what I meant.. sorry for my english!  :icon_smile_big: